Will S&W make a 686+ 7 shot 357 ball detent?
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Most likely not.
New tooling costs $$$.
Won't happen in a company in financial distress.
New tooling costs $$$.
Won't happen in a company in financial distress.
one eye joe
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IMHO--YOU SHOULD SEARCH FOR A GOOD USED, PRE-LOCK 686+. A QUALIFIED GUNSMITH WOULD BE ABLE TO INSTALL A BALL DETENT, INTO YOUR REVOLVER.....
McMASTER-CARR CARRIES AN APPROPRIATE, PRE ASSEMBLED BALL DETENT, IN THEIR ON-LINE CATALOG. THE PART NUMBER IS 84835A11......
ALSO---IF YOU RUN ACROSS A NICE USED 686 NO-DASH, OR 686-1, THAT DOES NOT HAVE THE "M" STAMP, INDICATING THAT IT WAS MODIFIED AS PER THE RECALL, YOU CAN CALL FOR A SHIPPING LABEL, AND SEND IT TO S&W FOR THAT MOD---WITH FREE SHIPPING, BOTH WAYS......
WHILE ITS THERE, YOU CAN HAVE YOUR 6 SHOT CYLINDER REPLACED WITH A FACTORY FITTED, 7 SHOT CYLINDER. I USED THIS TACTIC TO CREATE THE NO-DASH 686+ PICTURED BELOW. THE COST WAS A TAD LESS THAN $120. IN TOTAL, FOR THE CYLINDER AND THE LABOR. I WANTED A RELIABLE 7 SHOT, PRE-LOCK, L FRAME, IN .357, FOR EDC......
I LATER SOLD THE ORIGINAL 6 SHOT CYLINDER AND THE COMBAT STOCKS, ON THIS FORUM, TO HELP FINANCE THE PROJECT......
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CAJUNLAWYER
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No. But thanks for asking. Hell we just got over some HUGE threads about the ball not fitting in the center of the detente. Ya want to open that can of worms again???
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one eye joe
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I PRESUME THAT THESE GUNS, WITH BALL DETENTS, ARE PRODUCED IN THE PERFORMANCE CENTER.......
THIS JUST VALIDATES MY HUMBLE OPINION THAT QUALITY CONTROL SEEMS TO BE NO BETTER WITH PC GUNS, THAN WITH GUNS OFF THE REGULAR PRODUCTION LINE......
Lou_the_welder
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My new model 66 has a ball detent, and is about 100 bucks cheaper than a 686+.
Blue case- non performance center model
Honestly, I've shot most models. I don't see too much improvement. But most models with the detent are PC models.
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Blue case- non performance center model
Honestly, I've shot most models. I don't see too much improvement. But most models with the detent are PC models.
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one eye joe
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THAT'S A HANDSOME, NEW M66, Lou. IT APPEARS THAT THE INTRODUCTION OF THE M686, HAS NOT DESTROYED INTEREST, OR INNOVATION, IN THE VENERABLE M66......
As stated, the ball detent can be added by a competent smith, or perhaps the Custom Shop may even do it for a fee. While it's a nice feature, it's not a deal breaker for me.
OP, have you looked at the latest 686-6 from the PC? I got one last week and it's a beauty. The only thing I didn't like was the stock front sight, which was quickly replaced.
OP, have you looked at the latest 686-6 from the PC? I got one last week and it's a beauty. The only thing I didn't like was the stock front sight, which was quickly replaced.
one eye joe
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As stated, the ball detent can be added by a competent smith, or perhaps the Custom Shop may even do it for a fee. While it's a nice feature, it's not a deal breaker for me.
OP, have you looked at the latest 686-6 from the PC? I got one last week and it's a beauty. The only thing I didn't like was the stock front sight, which was quickly replaced.
THIS IS FOR ALL OF THE PYTHON BASHERS AMONG US---IMITATION IS THE MOST SINCERE FORM OF FLATTERY.......
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You do know that sight ribs were being made for S&W long before the Python don't you? Although Colt was the first to make a ventilated one integrated to a revolver. Regardless, it wasn't Colt's ascetics many don't like (as evidenced by the number of Colt barrels that made appearances on S&W frames), it was their price and timing issues.
Timing was always my primary concern. But now days it's timing and pricing with Colts!
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