yard capabilities....

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I haven't been able to take my AR to a ranger longer than 50 yards yet, but I was curious to know what the yard capabilities for a untouched M&P Sport are? I assume 5.56 with like a 62 grain will yield the most?
 
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Yard capabilities??? :confused:

You mean what's the effective range of the weapon?

I'd say over 1000 yards.... I have personally done 500 yards with iron sights.
 
Yard capabilities??? :confused:

You mean what's the effective range of the weapon?

I'd say over 1000 yards.... I have personally done 500 yards with iron sights.

yes thats exactly what I meant... weird, people tell me that its hard to hit 1000 yards with AR10s but your saying these can??
 
This is environment, rifle and shooter dependent. With a solid rest and no time pressure some can hit a man-sized target consistently at 500 yards, but try it in a shifting wind and with other complications (for example, the target shooting back), and effective range will decrease significantly. The best way for you to tell this for your situation is lots of practice with different sight and ammo combinations.
 
You can hit at well over 600 yards with the proper loads. Full size AR's own Camp Perry.

However, your 55gr and 62gr bullets blow around like leaves in the wind at distance.
 
yes thats exactly what I meant... weird, people tell me that its hard to hit 1000 yards with AR10s but your saying these can??

Oh, I never said it would be easy!!! :p

I've never shot anything at 1,000 yards! My brother was on the Army sniper team or whatever they called it back in the 70's. He'd travel around and shoot. He could hit targets at 1,000 yards with the M-60 and said he could do it with the M-16 also.

I have a friend now that competes with his 6mm and he will take groundhogs out at 700 yards. But he says anyone who tells you they can hit them on the first shot is full of it.

So many factors come into play at those distances it's a wonder they can ever hit the target. But you asked for the maximum capability is and I threw out 1,000 yards. I bet someone has hit targets beyond that even.

So lots of stuff to think about, and the bullet won't have much power left in it way out there, but it will get there. Maybe someone can tell us how far a 55gr FMJ can possibly go... I bet it will go over 2,000 yards...
 
To a 1000 you'd need something heavier ....69+ grains, (heavier bullets are less effected by wind) a steady rest and skills. Any bullet can travel that distance assuming the shooter knows his/her stuff. Realistic accuracy of an AR is 400 yards. This takes into account that you are shooting off hand (no rest), using iron sights or a 1x red dot (shooters vission), the target is moving and or shooting back, you are moving, breathing, and a host of other things.

Ive tried open sights at 300, shooting at clay pigeons and its not easy. I end up hitting all around it and every so often actually hitting the target. If it were a human size target i would have scored a hit.

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At 500 yards, the typical .223/5.56 bullet has dropped 52 inches and drifted 32 inches with a 10 mph cross wind and has 335 ft./lbs. of energy left.

I have a Colt AR-15 with iron sights that I consider an effective self-defense gun or hunting gun out to around 200 yards. After 200 yards, I prefer my scoped AR-10 in 7.62X51mm.
 
Okay I had to look it up... And I always qualified as expert in the Army... You think I'd remember this stuff.... :p

Depending on who you believe.... the mathematician or the bullet manufacturer or the range officer....

The 5.56 shot out of a 16" barrel has a maximum effective range of 463 meters (500 yards). Effective range is the range at which more than 50% of the shooters can hit the target more than 50% of the time using iron sights.

Some marines and foreign armies will train at 800 yards.
I've done 500... 800 is a LOT farther when you get right down to it....

The maximum distance the bullet will travel is somewhere around 4,000 yards (of course you'd be shooting at about a 45* angle and it will only have terminal velocity on impact, but could still be quite deadly). There are many charts out there showing .223 bullets can travel 3 miles which is 5,000 yards, but I'm sure conditions will effect this number greatly.

So I'll retract my initial statement or clarify it anyway, the effective range of an AR-15 is 500 yards using the military definition of effective, and it can be lethal and accurate to 800 yards and well beyond.

If you tell a marine sniper he can't hit a target at 1,000 yards with an AR I will put my money on him proving you wrong. ;)
 
I think that one of the tests the M15 had to pass was going through both sides of a military helmet at 500yds.. I remember seeing that on a documentary on the AR15 and 16.. Helmet was on top of a stick in the ground sights were iron..By the looks of the helmet I would say it was most effective at that range. George
 
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