has become a very vexing and frequent problem in these parts.

It is not the old get in some ones' car and yank the stereo type of break in any more. The Thugs are looking for ID's, credit cards,checkbooks and heading to Wal-Mart or other institutions and getting cash. There might just be a bit of collusion by employees at the institution end like not really checking close on the IDs or other questions.

This is not just here but has become a serious problem nationwide.

Google the term............. Felony Lane Gang.......... to see how widespread and shared these criminal techniques have become.

Be careful what you leave in the vehicle when it is unattended, even if just for a moment.

This is exctly why I will never leave my handgun in an unattended vehicle.

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Inconsistently consistent

I have bad experiance at being a example of it.

Many years ago, a couple friends who had stuff grabbed in the parking garage, set out some stuff in a car and pulled up alongside & parked in a VW microbus and waited.......about 10 minutes, whenupon a small band of thieves arrived to help themselves to some apparently unattended valuables.
The boys jumped out a beat the livin' snot outa the thieves, and caused them to be in fear of death or maiming. Scuffed up and a little bloody, they promised to never, ever steal stuff outa that garage ever again. The boys were prepared to inflict painful and possibly crippling injury if necessary and the thieves were abundantly aware of that fact.
A little fear is a good thing, no matter who you think you are.
A little fear can teach respect.
A lot of fear is even better.

If they see a garage door opener, you're going to loose it along with a window and your vehicle registration.

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Unfortunately around our hood that kind of thing will get you on a short list for retribution. The gangs and drug dealers don't take kindly to someone putting a beating on their users.

A few years a go a young lad put a whoop'n on a gang member. A death threat was immediately put on the kid. He was sent off to his dad's home in another area. So the gang moved the death threat to his younger sister. Word got around and the neighbors of the family of the young girl banded together and set up a "watch" at the ends of the street she lived on. The mother set pots and pans around and under windows at night before going to bed. She slept with a 12ga at the side of the bed and a 38spl under her pillow.

Eventually some leaders from a different gang where able to talk the rival gang members down from their desire to hurt this young girl as she was an innocent. Her brother still has a death threat hanging over his head and rarely visits his mom's house in fear he'll be caught there and beat'n or worse.

I know it's true because it's my girl friend's son. It all happened prior to me entering the picture. So while it might sound like a fun or good idea to put a scare into the thieves, in some areas all you'll accomplish is putting a bigger target on your back.

So we keep to ourselves and keep our stuff as nice as we can and keep our guns loaded and handy day and night.

I would love to see how those credit card scammers are and what they do with the money

You do what you have to do----but running is not a thing I have to do.
Blessings

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vehicle break ins have always been very popular.....in the days when everyone had a cb radio in their car.....they were stolen by the thousands !

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I HATE having to carry the vehicle registration in a car. It is an important document that is being put in jeopardy every time you park your car. In the UK we got around this by having the cop issue you an HORT 1, basically a requirement to produce your documents at the cop shop. Those docs were the annual inspection certificate and your insurance.

I've been putting your 2 and 2 together for years. I always come up with 4, too. I've carried my garage door opener in my pocket many times if I wasn't comfortable where I had to park. And copies of my registration are hidden in my vehicles. Why that has to be in the car beats me (well enforced law here in TN). Any officer can run my tag number and compare info to my driver's license.

You don't understand. The information on those documents is the issue. I keep my original at home and a legible copy in the vehicle in accordance with NV law. I don't want that information in my car at all.

Why do you have to produce registration? Isn't that what their computer in the car is for? I've probably been pulled over or checked 30 times at least, and never been asked for registration, just license and insurance. That's Texas, Arkansas, and Louisiana. Isn't you license plate/sticker your proof of registration?

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Torn & Frayed

What is that sticker above or below your inspection sticker on the windshield in Texas-----THAT is your registration sticker.
I had a sheriff's deputy out of Abbeville pull me over on a Texas Lic. Plate Job and when I told him the registration was on the windshield he had to call HQ and verify that I was not lying.
Don't drive in La with a Texas lic. plate.
Blessings

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How do you get pulled over 30 times? I doubt I have been pulled over 5 times in my 72 years and seldom go much under the posted limit.

In VA you have to carty and provide registration.

One thought .....take a cell phone pic of the registration. Keep the phone in your pocket. Done.

DR

My car was broken into one time and they stole the CB and didn't take the Spanish SXS under the seat and a 6 in. Python in the glove box. I guess they didn't take time to look for anything after they saw the CB. Larry

Also- in VA, we are NOT required to carry proof of insurance-- so if I am elsewhere they are out of luck. DR, I like the photo phone idea. Will start this tomorrow, then lock the real ones in my NANO safe. The garage door opener is another story,

Went to Wal-Mart very late one night. Parked and headed in-- Several gang bangers walked away from the tailgate of a nice pick-up and disappeared. As I approached the truck I noticed a fold up jimmy laying on the bumper-- stuck it in my pocket and it still rest on my safe at home. Maybe saved some one a LOT of trouble. I hope so.

Even though I hate that requirement and feel it sets up people to be victims of ID theft or even home burglary, I know two people that while pulled over were told their tags did not match their registration. Because they had a copy that matched their tag, the officer knew the information in his system was wrong. If not for their paper copies, they would have been charged with stealing a license plate.

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It's not just car break-ins. I drive a truck and it was about 2 yrs ago I started hearing about truck tailgates being stolen here in my area. The thieves will easily lift up most tailgates from the bed and then scrap the steel for cash. In these times scrap metals are paying well (another reason to save your brass.) Someone down the street had theirs taken from an F150.

I decided to buy a simple locking device. A Master Lock tailgate lock is less than $15. A tailgate can cost you close to $500 to replace.
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Just throwing it out there for those of you with trucks.

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My F-250 Super Duty has a factory lock on the tailgate and I keep it locked.

In WA, proof of insurance is required, but an electronic copy on your phone is NOT necessarily acceptible. One of my guys at work got pulled over for something and the State Trooper said it had to be PRINTED, so he got the extra $$ hit for not carrying proof of insurance.

I talked to my State Senator about the registration thing and he agreed and was going to put together a change to remove the printed personal info from the printed copy. Sadly, he passed away last week from an agressive cancer. I'll have to start over with another Senator.

Rob

I carry the registration in my wallet with DL and Insurance Card. If the car gets stolen, the theif won't have the registration.

The agencies in the DFW area have had all kinds of grief from Felony Lane Gang. I get bulletins on a regular basis. They have crews in Florida as well.

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So you're saying let these useless thugs control our lives? I don't think so!

If they don't know who you are it would help. Ive heard two stories... one I know is true because I heard the conversation my self. The other I can easily believe.

A guy in my college welding class walks in all pissed off. His SUV that was sitting in the parking garage with a high dollar sound system in it had its windows broken out and everything gone. He gets on the phone and starts calling people... pretty soon hes sitting back smiling. The thieves went to sell his stuff... when they found out who they stole from they gave it all up and were offering cash to pay for the broken window.

Another guy had a storage locker. Someone cut the lock and emptied it... bragged a little to much and 2 guys caught up to him. The next time he went out to the storage locker they were waiting, and he ended up tied to a chair in the locker getting a lecture on how this was going to work if he didn't return all the stuff and leave the lockers alone. Being alone in a dark storage locker with two pissed off guys you stole from turns people around I guess... the kid keeps his nose pretty clean now.

With the way the gangs are turning out nowadays though... who knows. When my dad was growing up they had morals and loose rules... now they seem more like animals that care about nothing.

I have posted this here before. In 2003 I was makeing many trips from california to wisconsin as my dad was dieing with alzheimers. I picked up a armful of family guns, tools etc. In meeting myself comeing, tired or whatever I left my model 60 in that drawer in the back seat of my extended cab GMC. I had it doctored with a snub hammer etc. When I got to my house I had no room in the safe for all the guns I brought back as my safe was already stuffed full. They were loose in my house. Maybe 8 rifles and shotguns. Precious to me as they were dads and my guns I grew up with and had left home in my travels.
It was either the night I got home or the next. I came out of my house and no truck! I think finding the altered smith hidden in the truck tipped them off I was a gun guy. A couple days later evidently right after I left the house, the house was burglared. Those guns I hadnt found a way to put in the safe were gone! Yeah, I have my suspicions as to who and how they were taken but couldnt prove it. I also had a penneys cc that I had left in the truck so checked out penneys. It was ran up over $4,000s!
Long story short I did my own leg work and took what I had to the sheriffs detective. A woman was arrested and just said that yeah, I stold the CC, I was hitchhikeing and stold it out of the truck. Of course she didnt know the guy who gave her the ride. Also she had JUST got out of jail for breaking probation on a similar case. The truck has never shown up. One shotgun did show up, the old J.C. higgins pump 12 that I had as a boy. Of course it was sawed off and had a doc holiday strap. They werent going to give me my gun back as the barrel was sawed. I said well let me unscrew the rest of the barrel and give me the action! Thats the short version of the story.

Okay. I will add just a little more to my story above. I had retired and was getting my house ready to sell. I knew a painting contractor and had him paint my house. He had a wild druggie son that helped him. Actualy, I liked the kid and even hired him for a few etxra odd jobs. As said I was driveing and flying back and forth to wisconsin takeing care of dad etc. It was a bad hard time in my life. I had retired a couple years prior and had many other things going on in my life besides dad.
I had to stay out of the house for a day or two as they had painted the interior. Being a batchlor I had piled a mountain of stuff in one room so they could paint the others. Then I couldnt find one pistol. Being lax and overly trusting I assumed it was under or in the mountain of rubble. Much later it did show up on a criminal that I didnt know and I got it back.
The kid I knew went to rehab sometime in the middle of all this.
I lost all the long guns, had just found out the womans name that used my jc penneys card, found out she had just been released on similar the SO was looking for her. That day this kid (about 18 YO) showed up to my house fresh out of rehab looking to make a few bucks. Now I am kind of suspecting he knew something and knowing that it seems all druggies know all the other druggies in a city, I asked him, hey, do you know a kiane niemuth? He looked just a little shook and said yeah! I told him the fuzz was looking for her on my deal. He said I will go find out something for you and left. I never seen him again. He jumped probation that day and on top of that, his dad and family sold their house and left the area.
The young woman was arrested, I went to her hearing (no trial) she just said she was guilty of stealing the CC. I got up in court as the judge started giveing her what realistcly would probley be less than a year and trying to say or protest something that that theft led to a lot more, and I wanted to say how my guns were stolen from that deal but the judge shut me up! I know darn well what happened and so did the detective that worked the case but he simply told me she would only cop to the CC theft. I am willing to bet had it been his guns or some friend of his guns, he would have pushed her harder and got to the truth. What do you think?
That was in lancaster california about april 2003. (My dad died april 11th smack dab in the middle of it and I was busy flying to and fro.) It was a bad time of my life. Besides all my heirloom guns I lost a samari sword I was given by a relative that God knows what it was worth plus my truck and many tools dad had etc. Next case, move along peon I have a room full of cases to decide today! Thats the differance of living in a dense high crime area and a low population rual area. I guarantee you had that happened in a rual area the case would have been taken farter and solved.

While I am at it, here is a list of those guns. The HDM and J.C. Higgins shotgun I did get back. Thank you.

Man, B & Es to vehicles here is out of control. They are even breaking into take home patrol vehicles. Our agency has had a couple of shotguns stolen through the years. Recently, they said enough was enough (finally) and had the trunk releases inside the vehicle disabled. You would think it would be common sense to take all your stuff inside, but apparently it is not. It required us all to sign a memorandum stating that if we did not have an enclosed garage we had to remove our gear daily from our vehicles.

I always did anyway, because throughout my life I've always been "that guy" that stuff happens to. Not this time though.

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Last year two guys stole a MP 5 out of a FBI agents car trunk while the car was parked in his driveway. They tried to sell it to a snitch of one of the local Narc officers. The gun was recovered and the perps were sentenced to seven years w/o parole.

?? In your wallet is in your car. When I leave the car, the registration leaves with me.

Charlie, I wish they had got 70 instead of 7 years, but yet I got to ask, how much time would they have got for stealing guns out of my car?