I thoght it would be a good idea to survey M&P 15-22 owners to find out how many owners have had to send their guns back to Smith & Wesson for repair and for what reason.

Please take a minute to answer the poll. Thanks...

I've had mine about 3 weeks. First 100 rounds were CCI mini-mags. The next 150 - 200 rounds have been Federal Value Pack from WW. I have had maybe three malfunctions total, fail to feed or fail to fire.

The last 100 round were flawless. Put me on the glad I bought it list, so far.

LTC

it was doing fine and had about 800 rounds thru it. I could live with the occasional bent cartridges and FTF which could be due to the ammo or magazine. It had to go back because it started going "full auto" on me. It's been with them since Friday and I cant wait for it's homecoming. I have a smorgasbord of bullets waiting for it's return.

I now have 10k+ rounds through mine.

A. It has always extracted/ejected superbly.
B. The magazine catches about 5-6 of 500 rounds
C. Accuracy sucks
D. Never sent back to S&W
E. Most fun rifle

Ive run about 600 now and maybe 5 stoves and this rifle is accurate inthe right hands at 50 yrds I love it

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im with Rangenrob ive shot maybe 1000 rounds so far give or take a few and its seems as long as I load the mag right i dont have any feed issues. But every once in a while i will have a failure to eject the spent round. but my friends AR15 has the same problem too. his failed to pull the whole casing out of the barrel last week.

Its a good gun but as with any mass produced item there are bound to be a few bad ones. this goes for any thing from legos to vehicles nothing is perfect but as long as the manufacturer is willing to fix any problem under warranty then its all good

yep, seems like i was one of the first on here to send there's back. Got mine on Sept. 4th, shipped back to s&w on the 8th. Got it back in October. On the paper work, said they replaced the Extractor. Ive had zero issues since its return, i absolutely love the 15-22.

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Smth & Wesson M&P AR15-22

Bought mine on Election Day anniversary (Bushmaster last year on day after election). Finally put ~125 or so rounds thru it. No issues. Maybe I got one that had the mysterious upgrade. Anyway, really looking forward to warm weather so I can go run a bunch of rounds thru it.

I have had mine for about a month and have shot several hundred rounds through it now. I have had only a couple of malfunctions and those were ammo related, not the gun. Mine shoots extremely well but I had to test several brands of ammo to find one that would group well. It really likes the CMP (Black Box) Golden Eagle.

I HIGHLY recommend the MP15-22 !!

I hope I don't have to ever send it back because I've already done trigger job and would hate to loose my parts as I'm sure S&W would send back with factory unmodified hammer and sear.

Off topic.
As cheap as AR trigger parts are on line or at a gun show, it might be a good idea to pick up some spare parts. In the unlikely event you have to send your rifle back to S&W, you could pull your modified trigger and put in OE parts.

I haven't had to send my MP15-22 back to S&W, but after about 400 rounds I began experiencing frequent stove pipes, then once found my extractor sticking out from the bolt at 90 degrees. It fell out into my hand when I touched it, but all the parts were still there, i.e., the spring and the little flat bar behind the extractor. I reinstalled the extractor and continued to have one to five stove pipes per magazine with seven different magazines. I tweaked the ejector bar with a screwdriver and now have shot several hundred more rounds without a single stove pipe. I have second MP15-22 that has been flawless. So overall I am quite satisfied with the MP15-22. As for being accurate, I have no complaints with them.

Thanks for the input Tbat!

By chance can you tell any difference between your two 15-22 bolt assemblies? Does the extractor on the bolt look the same?

I'm curious to know if Smith & Wesson made a change to the extractor or if it's the same? If there has not been a design change, the extractor could end up being a common failure.

IMO, It would be alot easier to get just the extractor from them rather than sending in the whole gun.

I can't really tell any difference between the bolt assemblies of the two rifles, the extractor seems the same on both and has the same feel. The rifle that I had the problems with has the serial number DSZ3***, from Academy, and the other one without issues has the serial number DSX1***, from a local sporting goods store, so I doubt that the problem free one is of more recent manufacture. The back side of the ejector is more squared on the DSX, whereas it is angled on the DSZ gun, but that shouldn't make any difference as that is not the contact point with the spent casings. LOL, perhaps I just got lucky with the second MP15-22. I bought these about a month apart so not likely to have any design changes.

I have read somewhere that the extractor on the S&W semiauto .22 pistol is the same as that on the S&W MP15-22, but I don't have a S&W pistol to confirm if that is so.

what did you do exactly with the extractor? ive had a couple of stovepipes, but not really enough to warrant ripping it down yet. when it does happen, it seems like the extractor wants to hang onto the shell, causing a stovepipe. anyone experiencing that? any fixes?

I merely reinstalled the extractor, I made no adjustmets to the extractor. It was the ejector bar that I adjusted with a screwdriver. I just inserted a flat blade screw driver between the ejector and the upper housing and attempted to move the ejector ever so slightly inward. You don't have to get rough with it as you could probably break off the ejector if your not careful. It was a trial and error process and took two or three attempts to get it right, but once successful the results were impressive. You can note your progress by looking at the open upper upside down with the bolt installed. I have seen postings on this board or another as to the procedure with pictures, I will try to post a link if I can find it again.

Here is at least one reference in this forum: http://smith-wessonforum.com/smith-w...hread-fte.html

I have seen some better pictures somewhere, and will link for reference if I can find them. I was hard headed and didn't want to send my gun back to S&W for such a simple problem. I tried it and it worked, so I am happy.

I got mine on 11/29/2009 and have had no problems so far. I have only used Winchester Wildcat .22LR plated HPs in the gun and they run flawlessly. However, we have had so durn much snow I can't get to shoot it now.

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SWCA 1821

thatd be great! thanks

I've had mine since early October. Found it at a gun show in Ft. Worth, TX for $430 OTD. I've put around 2000 rounds through it so far and the only troubles were with Federal "Auto-Match" 325 pack from Wal-Mart. Lots of doubles and one triple with this low-power load. Some rounds wouldn't even cycle the bolt enough to eject the round! With Winchester, CCI Mini Mags, old Remington grey tips and Federal 550 bulk packs I've had nothing but fun. Mike in TX

S&W shop called this afternoon and told me my M&P 15-22 was on the way back and I should get it by Friday. "They'll deliver it on Christmas? Great!" "You should get it by Monday!" Looks like no test firing this weekend.

-- Chuck

You must have talked to the same guy who I e-mailed about the various issues with ammo hangups in the magazine and parts failures.


S&W Mark Rossini-

"phil- it has not been an issue at this point"
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LOL..... Merry Christmas

I got mine right after t-day, shot about 500 rounds and was having problems with FTL day one,(bullet standing up in clip) I am using fed value pack and cci both ammo's did the same, but after reading alittle on here, found out what i was doing wrong, popped off 75 today and worked perfect, im alittle disapointed with the accuracy so far but i havent set down and really tryed yet. so thats really not fair to say as of yet. The cci seemed to do better as far as accuracy ,But over all i love the gun, its fun to shoot and looks cool . I would like to thank this forum for the info , i was getting ready to send it in to S&W for repairs but no need as of now,

So tell us what you were doing wrong that was making the bullet to stand up in the magazine?

Wonderful gun to shoot - very fun. First time shooting 22lr.

50 rnds federal bulk with 2 failure to feeds- both sticking straight up in mag when ejected the mag and very difficult to get out. Otherwise federal was great.

80 rnds remington golden bulk pack with 4 failure to feeds- different than above- half into battery, half out. Dropped mag and reseated and fine. Five of the 80 also no-fires.

Only did 15yrds as was indoors on the handgun side-- but was 1.5 inch groups out of box with no difference between federal or remington that I could tell. Will be interesting to see what I can get at longer distance and whether spreads out. Using cheap red dot 30mm site for rear and trying to site in. Good precision-- need time to get my accuracy down left and down with the red dot.

All and all, no failure to eject; just some failure to feeds which probably are caused by me and the mag-- which I will have to read up on.

very fun to shoot....look forward to more.

ps- serial prefix DTM if anywone is wondering when made - purchased two weeks ago.

rockhartz, thanks for the post and welcome to the forum!

Happy Holidays and shooting!

n3cal, thanks for doing this. I just got mine back from smith and it's really encouraging that most people didn't have problems. When this happens to you it feels like everybody has a problem. This poll shows that's not correct. Happy Holidays!

I have been following this forum for a while trying to decide if I wanted to buy a 15-22 or not. Well despite the bad news I read, I went ahead and purchased one anyways and hoped for the best.

After taking delivery of the rifle, I broke it down and cleaned it thoroughly. While cleaning it, I noticed several metal shavings around the bolt which were cleaned out with the help of compressed air. The rifle was then lightly oiled and reassembled.

I took the rifle to the range today and proceeded to put 300 rounds of CCI MiniMags through it. The rifle was flawless, and I did not have one FTL or FTE.

With a couple clicks of adjustment, the sights proved to be very accurate and I was able to consistently create tight groupings with the help of a bench rest.

After 300 rounds, the rifle was quite dirty however I decided to try some Winchester Wild Cats in it. 100 rounds later, I finally managed to get my first FTF which was my fault due to sloppy loading of the magazine.

I put another 50 rounds down range before calling it quits. Needless to say, I am pleased with the performance and accuracy of this firearm and have come to the following conclusions:

1. If you plan on putting several rounds down range, buy quality ammo. This rifle does not like cheap or dirty ammo and gets dirty quickly when using cheap ammo. CCI MiniMags worked great and even though the Winchester Wild Cats worked, the rifle cycled better with the CCI ammo.

2. The magazine is very sensitive and has to be loaded perfectly in order to keep the rifle functioning. The FTL I had was due to the fact that I loaded a round sloppily and as a result, it stovepiped.

3. As with any mass production firearm, this rifle will benefit from a through cleaning and oiling before being put into use. Don't skip this step!

4. This rifle can be very accurate if you take the time to set it up correctly. The use of a bench rest helps tremendously and with some patience, you can create consistent tight groupings.

5. This rifle is fun as hell to shoot. If you are holding off on buying one, quit stalling and go get one!

Welcome to the forum Dano33! Another happy shooter! Thanks for posting, well said.

I have to say cci mini mag is the way to go I think it is the best round for this rifle Ive had nothing but pure enjoyment the best part is i'm not throwing .50 cents everytime I shoot!!! My bushmaster is sitting in the safe for now

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I bought mine the first of October. Except for a couple of times that I loaded the mags improperly, mine has worked flawlessly.

About 6-700 rounds down range.

+1, Mini Mag is the way to go indeed.

Opened mine last night for Christmas (I had test fired about 200 rounds a few months ago with some minor problems).
Today I fired 75 rounds of CCI no problems. Fired 75 rounds of Federal bulk with no problems. Then I started firing 25 CCI and 25 Federal bulk. It began jamming, FTF, a few crushed rounds, a few jammed in the mags. For the next 200 rounds I kept having a few jams, FTF etc.. I was starting to worry. Also It seemed like it would not shoot accurately consistently.
Then it quit having problems! I don’t know what happened but it started putting every round down range. I have a SIG Mosquito that took a lot of rounds before it started working consistently and it may have just needed “broke in”. I tweaked the scope and got the accuracy back on. I burned through another 350 rounds hitting targets at 25, 50 and 100 yards with pretty fair accuracy. Sure needed a good cleaning which was easy. Mines a keeper. I better buy more ammo.
NOTE: Overall mine liked the Federal Bulk better than the CCI (better for me because of the price difference).

Congrads on your 15-22!!! I got a box of the Federal Bulk as a gift, so ive got alot of extra ammo to have fun and shoot my 15-22.

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*#@%, now I know why I can't find any Federal Bulk packs at the local stores. j/k

Lookin good. Enjoy your new Christmas gift. Keep an eye on the ejector, it may need a tweak to keep the FTEs away.

That's alot of ammo! Here in the not so great state of Maryland the State Police would be knocking down my door for having that much ammo!

Off topic. Does the not so great state of MD regulate the amount of ammo in homeowners possession?

There currently is no law in Maryland, however, several counties within the state have been using the "ammo log". For instance, some Walmarts use them. The log is kept by the store selling the ammo and the State Police monitor the logs. There have been several documented raids based on ammo purchases documented in these logs. Maryland is a very agressive state.

Mashing on the link results in a log in (membership) to view thread.
So just buying a certain amount of ammo gets a door knock?

Where I live Walmart only logs handgun specific ammo purchases. They don't log stuff like 30-30. Naturally, I only purchase 22LR for rifles.

Sorry, my bad. The particular link requires a membership. I removed it.

Thats not all I have. I have never purchased more than two at a time though.

I've been buying for over two years in anticipation of the day the Feds start regulating, taxing…..

I want to get out to the range today but relatives are coming for a visit……..

Welcome to the forum.

The 15-22 uses a blow back action....very common in semi-auto .22 caliber rifles. While it will get dirty using cheap ammo, I've not found any clean burning .22LR ammo, regardless of the price. The last couple of boxes of Eley and Fiocchi match ammo I shot seemed to dirty things up just as much as the cheap stuff. It's the nature of the blow back design.

I agree....clean the firearm before using it. As for it being mass produced or custom built, I wouldn't take a new firearm to the range without first giving it a good cleaning.

It sounds as though you did very well at the range. Post up a few pics of the targets and share them with everyone. There are a couple of threads in the forum for posting the targets....in fact, there are even a couple of targets to download and print. Using those makes it easy to compare groups. Shooting those targets at the suggested distances makes it even easier.

Again, welcome to the forum and congrats on your 15-22.

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My shooting buddy and I both bought one today. We each put 100 rounds through them within the first hour of ownership. Had four stovepipes in mine and he had about the same. We finally determined it was how we were holding the guns by gripping the magwell. Was causing interference with the function of the magazine. Adjusted hold to forend and problem ceased. Plan to run a box of WW bulk ammo through it tomorrow and will count total malfuntions and report after.

So far I'm satisfied.

I took mine for it's usual Sunday morning at the range. This is the 4th range trip with it and I went through over 200 rounds of Federal Value Pack. Zero malfunctions.

I was still trying to get the red dot and iron sights to co-witness with each other. Shooting at 50', at a target with nine 1.5" bulls I managed to keep 95% of the rounds in the black. This is from a bench with a bi-pod. Several 5 round strings were about .5". At this distance my old eyes see the 1.5" bull as a fuzzy blur. Yes I know, without photos it never happened.

The bi-pod I purchased from CAA worked out well with the legs extended about 2" (8-12"range).

I continue to get good performance from my 15-22 with a round count now over 500.

LTC

I'm hopefully beyond the extractor problems but had half a dozen magazine caused stoppages yesterday. 300 rounds (two times each thru six magazines). Glad to be shooting .22LR at 3¢ rather than M855 Ball at this week's price of 48¢ !

I've got a bunch of Winchester 38gr HPs so shot 200 of that.

Round count is ~700. Extractor count is +1. (I may have to find a spare extractor, detent, and spring if I lose the new one)

-- Chuck

Went out today and put another 600 rounds into the berm. I fired 75 rounds of Federal Auto-Match with zero problems. 75 rounds of Federal Lightning with zero problems. The rest were Federal 550. Near the end I started having some problems I attribute to the fact it was really getting cruddy. Overall I remember two rounds jammed in the mag and 4 crushed rounds, the rest of the minor problems were a few fail to eject, a few fail to fire.
I got the Barska sighted in tight. It worked real well. We were hitting 4” computer hard drive disks and skeet at 25-50-75 and 100 yards consistently. I know the accuracy would be better if I could resist the urge to always squeeze off two or three rounds each time…….

Put another 300 rounds of Fed. 550 bulk stuff through mine this afternoon. Only problems occurred when trying to load the magazine to full capacity. As long as I put in 24 rounds or less, zero problems. When I tried to load 25 it'd stovepipe everytime. Accuracy is more than acceptable. Was able to keep 5 shots in a quarters size circle at 50 feet offhand using an Aimpoint. Had no problem hitting pieces of broken clay pigeons out to 50 yrds. So far so good. Pretty well satisfied and it's no doubt the funnest gun I've ever owned.

Took family to outdoor range in mountains on vacation (Moss Knob in North Carolina Mountains). We all travel with and take our M&P 15 22lr's on vacation right?

Put about 100 rounds federal bulk down range with no problems; it was very cold however and did not shoot long.

It was nice that the wife went with and enjoyed shooting a few down range. Tried to teach 2 of my kids (son and daughter) to shoot one round at at time but they did not really get into it. For them, I was using CCI longs with low powder which were very quiet and worked fine but did not cycle the action (I had read they would not).

I think the M&P is a hard 1st gun to learn on for six year olds (they are 2 of triplets as my other daughter stayed home with grandma as wants nothing to do with shooting yet). Maybe in another year. No worries as this gun is plenty fun for daddy to shoot!

Anyway, just wanted to share that have had no problems as of yet and really do enjoy this rifle.

Happy holidays and new year to all.


ps.....today, only did 10 rounds in mags at a time. Don't know if that helps or not but have never done full 25.

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Purchased mine mid Dec and experienced the same ejection and extraction problems. Sent it FedEx on the Dec 21 tracked it to a delivery truck in Chicopee MA on the 28th. That's where it sit today!???