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I have barsto barrels in my 1026 and 4576, they are great barrels, now wanting one for my super 9, they don't make S&W barrels any more, any barrel makers out there?
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I have barsto barrels in my 1026 and 4576, they are great barrels, now wanting one for my super 9, they don't make S&W barrels any more, any barrel makers out there?
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I BELIEVE JARVIS DOES. BUT I'M NOT POSITIVE, CHECK THERE. JIM P
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Jarvis does not.
I have looked high and low, and have not found anywhere that offers S&W 3rd gen auto barrels anymore. (except S&W of course...as long as it's not, say, a Recon 45...)
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first325:
Are you going to attempt to have a different bushing installed as well as a new barrel, or keep the factory bushing with a new bulbed barrel in the Super 9?
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09-19-2007, 06:21 AM
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orangehole, I don't know if you're lucky or just good.
I sent my Recon 45 in for some work earlier this year and asked if I could buy an extra barrel for it. The answer was 'no way, no how, sorry. we don't have any more barrels'.
I've been trying to find someone who can make me a one-off, but no luck as yet.
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09-19-2007, 10:08 AM
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Hammer,
Did you speak to someone at the Performance center directly. When I initially called S&W and got the customer service, a rude woman told me "No Way", we will not make you a barrel. then when I got in touch with someone in the PC, they said they could do it for me. If the performance center guys said no then that is another story.
BTW I would have to check my paperwork but I believe I sent them my pistol in Feb 07 and it took about 3 months or so.
Good luck
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Briley, maybe?
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09-19-2007, 06:10 PM
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I called barsto and they said if they had more orders, they would make more, when I called S&W cs, they said no way, I left message at pc, but they are probably on the way to new mexico. Jarvis was a no go. My other barrels were fit to the original bushing, the barsto barrels being bigger dia, so I can still use the original if needed
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09-19-2007, 06:29 PM
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Many wish that Bar-Sto would start making the for caliber and conversion barrels again for Smith and Wesson 3rd generation. I have the 40S&W conversion and it has been great and accurate. Now I wish I could get the 357 SIG (40 case necked to .356") and the 19 X 25 (10mm case necked to .356") to fit the 1006 10mm. Bar-Sto has the software for the CNC for the barrels because they were making them previously, so how hard can it be to tool up and produce them like they use to.
Bar-Sto if your listening let's get the ball rolling!
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09-20-2007, 11:40 PM
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Nice pistol Just curious how does it shoot?
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Thanks. To tell you the truth, I have yet to shoot it. I assume it will shoot like a pussycat being it is an all stainless frame and slide plus porting. I have been too busy recently to make it to the range
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09-27-2007, 07:13 PM
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still looking for a barrel, can get a briley bushing, but nothing to put in it, this is very discouraging, I had high hopes for a nice super 9 project.
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Maybe a stupid question, but can't Briley put a bushing around your current barrel? Is not barrel fit most of the issue when it comes to the accuracy of different barrels???
I have a Super9 and have thought about "souping it up" as well. I am therefore curious about what you are finding out.
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09-27-2007, 09:02 PM
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the barrel for the briley bushing is straight, no cut behind the muzzle, that allows removal with the fixed bushing, nut much bearing surface with a standard barrel in a briley bushing, as I remember, the barrel for the briley is thicker od.
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first325, thanks for the info. I should have noticed that earlier.
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are there many people in the market for 3rd gen barrels? I need a 5" for my super 9 and so does my buddy, any others for 5906 ect, maybe enough people call barsto they would make more, performance center didn't seem interested in selling any or putting one in my super 9 for me
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I would love an extended threaded barrel for my 4006 so I could put a can on it.
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Well now that I got the S&W 1076 10mm, I am in need of a 40S&W conversion barrel for it. Again I wish Bar-Sto would start producing these for the third generation pistols.
While we are at it I love to see the M&P produced in 10mm with conversion barrels for 40 S&W, 357SIG, 19X25 but thats just me!
Smith & Wesson if your listening HELP!
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OK, somewhat dead thread, but what the heck.
Last i contacted Briley they can do barrels for various SW 3RD gens. They did after all make the Briley 356TSW gun with their barrel. If they make a bushing for it, they should be able to make a barrel for it.
I asked about the 4506 and 5906 awhile back and they said they can indeed do a barrel and bushing for them, even asked about the 4006 and got the same answer. Might be worth a call to see if they will still do barrels for various calibers/models.
Keep in mind S&W 3rd gens are good guns, but nobody made alot for them. Briley is an outfit that will do nearly whatever you want. Catch is you have to be willing to pay, and worse yet wait.
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I talked to claudio and they are not making any, if there was demand they could, they have the setup to do it, sa they used to do PC barrels
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I checked with Claudio today. He would be willing to make MATCH GRADE barrels, oversized and need fitting. we would need to do runs of 20 each caliber.
I asked about the 5906/4006/4506/1006 as high interest items.
First run would be for 5906 or 4006, approx cost would be $200.00 per barrel. The wait would be approx 3 months, which ensures they can aquire suitable blanks and manufacture the barrels.
Anyone possibly interested? I know I would be in for at leat one in each caliber, if not more.
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I would take at least 2. When I spoke to him, he said they made them in 6" and cut down to correct length, I need 5" for super 9 and 4" for 5906, I already have 2 bushing assemblies from him
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Dude, that is a BEAUTIFUL pistol.
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Hmm...this is interesting.
If I would have known this, I would have never gotten rid of my 5906.
Wonder if they could do a match grade barrel for a standard 6906 or 5906. (TSW)?
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The barrels Briley makes are match grade for these guns. To take full advantage of these awesome barrels though, you really need to get the bushing as well, then it is a true tack driver so to speak.
We can get them, it is just a matter of getting enough people to go in on them. I know I will go for at least one 4006/5906/1006/4506 if not more. I might even stock a few just for spares I plan to have my pistols for a long time.
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Count me in for one barrel for a 5906 at $200, and one for a 4566. Regards 18DAI.
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Are these better than the stock Smith Barrels.
I just got a SW 5903 and the barral still looks nice.
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I would be interested in a 5"bbl and bushing for my Super9.
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I have posted this idea around a couple other boards. I have a business license, so I could get the barrels made in the quantities mentioned. RIght now I am workng out pricing with a coupel of well known barrels makes to make a limited run of MATCH GRADE barrels.
I am working on barrels for 5906/4006/4506, and possibly 1006 with enough interest. These barrels will be stock lengthgs only,I can't afford to have one or two made in different legths. Good news is that the 4506, and the 1006 if I do them, can be turned down by yor ginsmith to fit shorter barreled models. Fitting will be required, these are not drop in. I would recommendthe Briley buhing, adn am working on a deal to do packages too, again smithing will be your responsibility.
I am shooting for $200 or below for these barrels. We'll see about packages with bushings. Price is still pending, I will post more when I have ironed out the rest of the details.
I need to know who is interested for sure. Spread the word around, the more the merrier, and I can order more barrels therefore making it even cheaper.
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I would also be interested. Would this barrel fit a 5906 TSW?
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Forgot to mention it, but would there be one for a 4513 TSW?
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I forgot to mention this but if you couldn't do a barrel for the TSW then I would be willing to buy a 910 or 915 with the legacy type barrel.
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OK, looks like I have the info I need for a run of the 3rd gen barrels. Here is the scoop. IF we do this the following will be the norm. Don't get sticker shock, this is the BEST barrel system you will get for these guns, and accuracy will be top notch. Price will be $315 plus shipping.
These barrels are not for the faint of heart, they are for serious shooters that want the best they can get from their favorite S&W. When comparing the cost to a 1911 custom barrel and fitting it is not that terrible to me.
Here are the facts:
- Barrels will be from Lothar Walther stainless blanks.
- NO drop in barrels, these need to be fitted, again this is top notch stuff.
- This is a system, it will include the Briley spherical bushing, bushings require proprietary tooling to be threaded in and need to be sent to Briley for installation and fitting, part of the $315 price tag.
- Manufacture time will be roughly 3 months, still working on a timeline for getting the bushings installed, more than likely 2-3 months, Briley is pretty in demand.
- These will be standard length barrels, 3rd gen only, for one of 4 models to be determined based on interest, 5906/4006/4506/1006
- Ironing out details of the bushing barrel installs, I want to work it so all everyone has to do is ship it with a small money order for return shipping.
Here is the dealio, I am fronting the cost of the blanks out of my own pocket, so if we get a minimum 20 orders for one model I will require a NON-REFUNDABLE deposit of $150 to hold your place. Right now it look like it will either be a 5906 or 4506 to be produced first. All interested please speak up, this is open to anyone that wants the best you can get for these already great guns.
Pipe up with which you want first 5906 or 4506
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If the barrels end up being just for the 4506, will the 4506-1 or revision 3 guns be included?
The barrel hood changed widths on the later 4506's... the R3 guns are wider for sure.
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I am having the barrels all made with the wide hood, this way they can be fitted as needed.
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OK, First correction.
I am going to offer these as just the barrel and bushing kit. You still need Briley to fit the bushings into the slide.
This gives folks the option to buy the barrel kit now, and defer the installation cost till a later date, thus spreading the overal cost out a bit.
Sound good?
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Two questions.
1- Would these barrels fit the 745?
2- What will the cost be now with out the fitting charge?
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I saw another comment that I did not address already.
To my knowlege the barrel/bushing set should fit the TSW models just fine. The main physical difference is the rail and thicker dust cover.
Please chime in if anyone knows something I don't.
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Still working the details, should knock around approximately $100 off the initial price.
I forgot to figure in shipping costs for the materials and so forth, so I will have to work out the numbers for the barrel/bushing price again. It should not add much though, maybe $10.
I am getting ready to redeploy back to home station in a couple of days, so expect to hear more toward the end of next week. I'll have the new pricing for just the parts, minus the fitting fees.
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The only guns I will attest to these barrels and bushings working for is the 3rd gen pistols mentioned. 4506/1006 or the 5906/4006, depending on which we go with first.
Beyond that I won't say one way or the other, buy at your own risk. I am simply trying to put this deal together to get some barrels for myself, and those that want the best they can get for these pistols.
My business is not associated with this transaction at all.
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Well I took the barrel out of my 4506 and switched it with the barrel out of my 745, fit was the same. So depending on final price I would be interested in a barrel and bushing set in 45acp caliber.
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A buddy of mine made a tap for the Briley bushing retainer, as I put a barrel and bushing in an extra super 9 slide, the metal got real thin under the front site dovetail, but is working fine. Would the barrels be 5" and able to be cut for 5906?
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OK, barrels will not be one off sizes, if this goes thru. If we do a 5906 barrel it will be 5906 size, it is to costly to do one or two out of a batch in different sizes, not to mention Briley won't do it anyway, to much of a PITA. If we went 5" all the way around, it adds more expense for other members to get them cut down.
Bad news is the price is more than planned. I was mistaken and the barrel fitting will be an additional charge, so the total price of a barrel would be about $405, plus associated shipping costs.
Provided I can get the interest I will still run the buy, and will order the barrel/bushing set, allowing folks to get the bushing installed and barrel fitted when it suits them better financially.
At the moment I am leaning toward the 4506 barrels first, unless I get enough feedback otherwise.
I am still looking at another option for the barrels, but it will not include the bushings, just a top notch barrel. It won't be as good as the barrel bushing set up from Briley, but it will be an improvement.
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