FBI 1076 on gunbroker right now, with letter.

I have two more 1076's coming my way.

Did you buy that one?

Nope. Scored another one off GB and one off another gun forum.

The latest one on gunbroker has about 8 hours left and is already up to $800. I haven't seen one go for that much in awhile.

That is incredible. S&W 1076 10MM FBI with Factory Letter-Used : Semi-auto at GunBroker.com

It finished out at over $2000. Incredible is the only word I can think of for that.

-TS

That is just friggin stupid. 2k for a 1076?

Unbelievable. That one is about 10 numbers away from mine. Maybe I should sell mine. I wonder if the agent that first owned that gun was bidding on it or something. Or maybe someone with pistols with numbers on either side of that one were bidding against each other. Who knows? Either way, I just made a grand, sort of.

Maybe you could get him to autograph it for you and sell it for 3k. Hey, never know.

Based on serial number and ship date TEU0339 is very likely one of the appoximately 250 original pistols tested by the FBI. As a test pistol it is unlikely that it was ever issued to a Special Agent for day to day carry. Many test pistols were converted to red handles for New Agents to use in training. And some of those still show evidence of red paint on their original grips. The sale price is extraordinary and I would love to know the reason. Of course, I should add that if THB9153 ever came on the market price would not be a consideration. D

DMC, I will keep a look out for you. This one that just sold was 12 numbers away from my TEU, and I would probably be willing to pay quite a bit for another in sequence. Although, I would be sleeping in the shed for an undisclosed amount of time from then on.

hahahahahaha!

Amen for sleeping in the shed.

I called S&W the other day, they say my 1076 was under recall, i could send it in, and they would take care of it, they said when it comes back, it will have 2 punch marks behind the decocker lever, that shows that it has been sent in, mine works so good, i hate to send it in, George.

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My shed was built by me. My wife has never been inside. It's much more comfortable than my old house. I've spent a few nights out there after a gun show. She thinks it's full of lawnmowers and such.......

Sammy

Yeah, I hear you guys. I just finished putting a roof on my shed two weeks ago before it started snowing here in Utah, but luckily I haven't had to sleep in it just yet. What's funny is that my father in law helped me. I was surprised at how much he was willing to help me get it finished, but in hindsight I guess I am not surprised at all.

LOL. Now that is funny!!!

Looks like that last auction was not a fluke. There's another FBI 1076 on gunbroker with 1 hour left that is at a bid of $2020. This one has a box and serial number TEU0319. It looks like it may be the same two bidders as last time. I wonder if someone or some people from this forum are bidding on those. Anyone want to fess up?

Thats a big price to pay for one with out a letter.Appears you are right same two bidders.In the gunshop I work part time years ago we sold guns to departments that were labeled FBI MODEL where departments wanted the FBI features.Wonder what would happen if it letters to a LE agency not FBI.Dacoontz I sent you and David a copy of my corrected letter on my pistol.Dave

Thanks Dave, got it and replied. Great letter. And your pistol is definitley a rare find with the little history behind it.

And that was a big price, but there are those guys out there that really want these federal LEO pistols. Especially because they shouldn't really exist except for the occassional political loophole, as DMC has explained in past posts.

True this pistol didn't have a letter but with that serial number I would be 99.99% sure that it will letter as one of the original 350 pistols sent to the FBI academy for testing.

I don't think there is any question but that it is an FBI pistol. My understanding is that there were approximately 250 total test pistols. But my documentation is a little slim. I am happy to see the FBI 1076receiving some recognition but good grief I'm staggered at the price.

On another note, I am trying to put together the history of FBI 1076s that have black triggers. Please contact me if any member has such a pistol. Thanks.

You can never pay too much for a fine gun, only too soon...

bls

Is that a confession?

[QUOTE=dmc8163;1241014]I don't think there is any question but that it is an FBI pistol. My understanding is that there were approximately 250 total test pistols. But my documentation is a little slim.

DMC, do you know where the serial numbers on that original group of 250
started? I would suspect they all had the TEU prefix?

Here are a couple of pictures from another post I had that may be of interest :

I took these pictures at Paul Liebenberg's shop, Pistol Dynamics in Palm Bay Florida.
He showed me the originals of the .356 TSW Limited with a 6" barrel with the real high capacity mags also with the "Std." 5" upper.
And the original S&W FBI 1076 Test and Evaluation gun that was always referred to when a 1076 was in question for any reason.
It was "THE ONE" that all the other 1076's were compared to, with the "PROTOTYPE" - 9, 11 and 15 round magazines
that are truly one of a kind.
I was asked to not post any S/N's.
Regards,
BM1

Very nice, one of the prototypes. Black trigeger, checkered front strap. Bad man, will he divulge the prefix? Thanks for the pictures either way. That 1076 looks to be in perfect shape.

Better yet, why don't you put together a book about the 1076? Offer it to members on the forum here. I would buy one. I don't have the background on the gun that you and others on the forum have. Would be nice to have all the info in one place rather than having to search.

The lowest known number is TEU0042 and the highest known number is TEU0385. I have never been able to find a complete list of serial numbers. I have discovered that writing a book requires the ability to write.

The black trigger on the Test and Evaluation pistol raises a number of questions. I have one pistol with a black trigger. Does any other member have a 1076 with a black trigger?

Yes. I have a black trigger 1076 that is THD* serialized to a Used/"Stock: FBI labeled" cardboard box.

The "FBI label" is beneath the Used label but the bleed through Product Code and Spec. Ord. numbers appear to be 105018 and 1782 (could also be 1182) respectively.

I think I remember reading that the black trigger was used on the later ones that were run through the "Performance Center".

Yes, it is possible that FBI 1076s with a black trigger came through the Performance Center. Do you remember where you read that later pistols have a black trigger? If you would, remove the slide and inspect the trigger play spring. My guess is that it has a revised spring, i.e., the "U" has a bar across it. If you have not already done so I urge you to request a S&W Letter. Thanks for your response.

NOT TRUE, just one word. "Twilight" And hell no, I have not read it.

Not sure where I read about the black triggers being done by the PC. I'd assume it was here but if you haven't seen it...

I checked and neither of my 1076s have the "U" has a bar across trigger play springs.

Haven't done a letter. Don't see much of a point on the 'FBI boxed' one. If I do request a letter it would be for my other 1076 since it is more of a mystery to me.

Greetings. Great discussion here guys! i've had several 1006's over the past years but just recently picked up a nice example of a 1076. I'm just wondering where you think this gun falls in place by serial number?? After reading everyones post I'm probably going to send a request in for a letter.

I had a friend on another forum tell me this one was probably a LE gun that was issued to VA, it has the "caution" lable on the other side and it shoots with the mag out. Help and opinions welcome...

Thanks!
Al

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I have a 1076 but i am pretty sure it's not a FBI model. The Kentucky State Police had 1076's also and piggy backed with the FBI when they got them. From what i have been told by the KSP when the FBI went away from the 1076 they bought up a lot of their parts and firearms at a really low cost. So some of the KSP models just might be FBI models also. This is not the first time this has happen with the KSP and other agency guns.

I thought this might be of interest to hardcore 1076 fans. As we know one of the criticisms of the 1076 slide release is that the shooter can't (generally) reach it with the shooting hand w/o changing his/her grip. An extended slide release is often the topic of conversation. S&W never released one; however these photos are of a prototype extended slide release. It is solid as a rock and fully functional. I have not identified the originator. D

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That's not fair. Twilight was written when scientists locked 120 monkeys in a room with typewriters, a keg of beer and a case of bananas. Otherwise your point is valid.

That extended slide lever is awesome. Too bad they didn't make them.

Sorry no one picked up on your question. TFE was probably made in the second half of 1990, and a letter seems to be in order to find out to whom it was shipped. Hope this is helpful.

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SWCA LM 2023, SWHF 220

Does anyone have a picture of the Palm Swlell FBI style Grips on a 1076? Please post

Here is a picture of the original Test and Evaluation gun that was the gold standard for the FBI guns.
Regards,
BM1

Are there instructions on how to modify the Hogue grip for a frame-decocker pistol like the 1076. Surely it can be done, but how to do it well?

Where can one find that extended slide release?

Does S&W performance center do anything besides action tuning and slide lapping and refinish on 1076s? Do they tune the barrel bushing? Trigger improvement? I think the 1076 is just about the perfect pistol if but for a few things? Are there any well know pistolsmiths that work on 1076s or other 3rd Gen full-size pistols?

Thanks in advance.

Pic right below your original post.

The extended slide release was never produced. The Hogue grip can easily be modified with a sharp knife or an Xacto knife. Carve out the rubber where it interfers with the pistol's operation.

DMC is correct. I modified a set of Hogues for my (Non-FBI) 1076 and it only took about 20 minutes. I like the grip a lot better. I will post a picture if I get a chance later on.

If you take your time and are careful you can make the Hogue grips look pretty nice (probably nicer than I did on mine). Now, if anyone would like to do a trade of my 1076 for an FBI 1076, just let me know .

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I just purchased a 1076. My first 10mm. I have not read the entire thread, but have noticed the following. With the weapon in the decocked mode the hammer is flush with the back of the slide. If I pull the trigger slightly back I hear and feel a click. When I release pressure on the trigger the hammer is extended about 1/16". The decocking leverwill not drop in back to a flush position. If I then bring the gun to firing position and fully pull the trigger the pull is somewhat shorter and a little more crisp and I would think more accurate. Is this what a been referred to as the 1076's "trigger prep" modification? FTE06xx was originally shipped to the Chesterfield Police in Chesterfield, VA and has the magazine block removed with the warning on the slide.

I will be going to the range tomorrow to fire it for the first time tomorrow.

What your 1076 is doing is absolutely normal and exactly what my 1076 does. As for "prepping the trigger" that was something different that was argued here in this thread as a technique that was taught to new agents at Quantico. Most of the guys here that have true first hand experience, meaning they were there, don't recall that education. From what I recall it had something to do with partially pulling the trigger enough to shorten the pull without actually firing the gun. I know, it doesn't sound like a good idea to me either.

You'll love shooting that gun, it is still by far my favorite gun to shoot and is shot accurately without much talent. I speak from personal experience on that note. Congrats on the purchase and welcome to the forum.

I have found you can do that with other S&W autoloaders. I can do it with my 645.

First time on the range with the 1076. Typical low and left BS for a right hander with a new toy. Gotta change glasses to get a crisp sight picture. Put a 100 rounds through and kept getting tighter with each group. Not a single glitch in operation. Really nice piece.

Has anyone put a laser sight on a 1076? If so what make and model. I'll be using it as a woods gun and would hate to have to ask a mean critter to wait a second while I found the right glasses.

Dave

I am the son of a FBI Agent. I see some of you were former agents, and some of you may have known him as he served from 1970 until his passing in 1997. He served in South Florida in the 70's and early/mid 80's and Memphis from the mid 80's until 1997.

Having finally convinced my mother he would have wanted me to have my father's gun collection, I have started going out and doing some homework and found this site regarding the S&W Model 1076. I appreciate all the contributions around here, and hopefully some of you may have crossed paths with my father as he was a firearms instructor, street survival instructor, defensive tactics instructor and was a very proud member of the KMA Club.

My dad's gunsmith put all his firearms in long term storage and the first I have decided to have professionally cleaned and readied for firing is his Model 1076. My dad was friends with Ben Grogan and after that incident you would never catch him without firepower adequate to protect himself. He loved the 10mm and after the initial issues received one of the reworked models. It is a serial number TFK62XX, is in a blue hard plastic S&W Performance Center case and I have the accompanying paperwork from the FBI Training manuals, instructions for maintaining firing records for future evaluation, and the FBI weapons log book with the count of rounds and dates which it was fired. I will try and learn how to post some pictures so when I get back in town next week I can take some and post here.

I would venture to say it is a legit FBI gun, but want to have the history of his sidearm to go with everything else my dad kept and left.

I look forward to chiming in around here from time to time