The Perfect Grips - Ahrends Retro Combat

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When we have a problem with one of our guns or accessories, we are usually pretty quick to post a thread about it. I feel it is important to do the same when we find a gun or accessory we really like. Good products deserve praise.

I am really into grips. Rarely do I purchase a revolver and keep the factory grips on them. It always seems they can be better. The short two finger Altamonts that came on my 586 L Comp were sorely lacking. I like to have my pinky on my defensive carry guns. I shoot much more accurately when I do.

I tried several different makes of grips on my 586 until I found the "right" set. I have lots of revolvers and lots of grips so it is easy for me to swap them around and try different ones out. I also buy grips and find through trial and error that they do not work for any of my guns!

For my 586 L Comp I decided on Ahrends Combats. Ahrends grips often look very simple. But they are not. Kim Ahrends has put a tremendous amount of thought and engineering skill into designing his grips. One of the best examples are his Retro Combats. They are really brilliant.

Let me begin by saying I generally do not like grips with finger grooves. I find that when shooting your fingers often slide out of the grooves and you need to reposition your hand on the grip in between shots. Not good. But these grips DO NOT exhibit that tendency at all. The grooves are cut to a perfect depth and width, and your fingers stay put. I generally prefer smooth wood grips on my revolvers, but the Retro Combats are the exception.

The next notable feature, on the left grip panel there is a perch for your thumb. Not only is it a perfect place to put your thumb, downward pressure on the perch helps tame recoil by keeping the barrel from flipping up too much.

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More important, the bottom section of the grip where the pinky goes is pushed forward a bit. The relationship of this lower part of the grip to the backstrap helps keep the gun from flipping back during recoil. On firing the pressure exerted by your pinky on the bottom part of the grip forces the highest point of backstrap back into the palm of your hand and keeps the muzzle down. This makes for very fast follow up shots. I cannot think of another grip that is well thought out enough to do that for me.

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These recoil reducing features of the grip enable me to shoot some pretty good rapid fire groups with this gun. The 7 shot groups on the targets below were fired in about 10 seconds each in Double Action at 25'. I can't achieve these kind of rapid fire groups with other grips on this gun.

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Slow fire is pretty good too!

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It also happens to be a pretty good gun to start with and has a significant trigger and action job. While the action work has a lot to do with how well this gun shoots, the grips definitely enhance its performance by helping to reduce muzzle flip and recoil.

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That little thumb perch you speak about is a called a Speedloader relief cut.

Compare the cutout of the Ahrends grip to the typical cutout found on other grips. The Ahrends cutout is very much a perch for your thumb, much wider and deeper. If it was not done intentionally, you could not design for a more perfect rest for your thumb. It sits in the cutout like it was made for it.

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Maybe on those aftermarket grips. Check out these original S&W Combats. The cutout is for a Speedloader not a thumb perch. It may work perfectly for you. But the cutout was designed for Speedloaders. It started around 1980 with the K&N Frame Sq butt target grips. A switch from the football relief to the Speedloader cutout.

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I know it might not be the "correct":eek: name but I like that....:cool:"thumb perch":cool:, very cool harris. Great review and great groups:), Theo
 
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I have seen young people while driving with their windows down put their left foot up & rest it on the door by the sideview mirror. Does that mean that part of the car is a footrest? Of course that part of the grip is a cutout for a speedloader.
 
1) if you think that's a thumb rest, your grip is too high. If anything, it provides relief for the assisting thumb tip. Clearly, it provides clearance for loading and unloading. This became especially apparent to me with grip issues on a J-Magnum frame and the length of 357 cartridges and empty cases.

2) If you find finger grooves unreliable on the second shot, you need to be less relaxed in your grip, holding tighter with the assisting hand so the trigger finger still stays relaxed. Also consider checkering/stippling.

3) if you like rapid fire drills, a .357 Magnum wouldn't be my choice.
 
Some people seem able to shoot a revolver well with a variety of grip styles - I'm not one of them. I've always found a set of my preferred aftermarket grips tighten my groups immediately.

Might just be in my head but it works ;)
 
My 3 S&W (629,686,617) revolvers have the Retro Combats . . . they really work for me too.

Rachel
 
Ahrends makes some fine S&W stocks. I've installed them on a number of my (ahem) collection. Attached is a photo of my L-frames, all of which have been shod with Ahrends.

Note that the speedloader cut on the Tacticals vary from the retro combats.
 

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Ahrends makes some fine S&W stocks. I've installed them on a number of my (ahem) collection. Attached is a photo of my L-frames, all of which have been shod with Ahrends.

Note that the speedloader cut on the Tacticals vary from the retro combats.
Very nice L Frame collection. Since you have both retro & tacticals in your opinion which one has the smallest grip circumference?
 
Those are an excellent set of Ahrends that look exceptionally good on that L comp. Thanks for your review of that style of Ahrends as well.I've been looking for just the right set of grips for my new to me 625 and these sound like the ticket.
 
Those are an excellent set of Ahrends that look exceptionally good on that L comp. Thanks for your review of that style of Ahrends as well.I've been looking for just the right set of grips for my new to me 625 and these sound like the ticket.

I am looking at a few pairs of Ahrends for my 625JM right now. Though I like the factory grips quite a bit, just want something else to play with.
 
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