Mannlicher stocked Bolt Action Rifles

damienph · Oct 15, 2016

I like the way that they look. My brother has a Ruger model 77RSI chambered in .30-06 that I have lusted after for over 25 years. The only full "Manlicher" stocked rifle that I own is an H&R Model 157 chambered in .22 Hornet.

I have a Savage built Lee Enfield No4 Mk1 that someone bubba'd including cutting the barrel back to 18" that I want to restock in a Manlicher style some day.

model70hunter · Oct 16, 2016

I like the look. I owned one a long timer ago. I once had 5 new commercial Mauser Actions, in hind sight I should have made a unique caliber one with a Mannlicher stock. I thought about it then but decided they would not sell as well if I did not like the gun. It would have been in 6.5 Swede. I did make a light sporter in the 6.5 and it killed many deer.

I always thought I'd find a used one and slick it up, I guess most gun shops had them stored on the lower shelf right behind the hens teeth....

Andyd · Oct 16, 2016

Jebus35745 said:
Andy, what is the name of the single shot? Larry

Larry,

it is an early post-war rifle that is built on the typical pre-war Flobert action, a very simple design that locks only on the bolt handle. They are usually known as JGA single shot rifles after the old logo that was imprinted on the receiver. It has an interesting loading ramp that does double duty as an extractor. The DST set trigger is a tremendous improvement over the standard trigger usually found on these models.

Some of the receiver marking that changed over time, as did the way the barrels were secured in the receiver.

jdlii · Oct 16, 2016

It appears that I am very lucky when it comes to the accuracy of my Sako Mannlicher rifles. They produce groups that are MOA at 100 yards and never disappoint.

The 30.06, provided that I do my part, will produce sub MOA groups with Nosler 165 grain ballistic tipped projectiles.

hkcavalier · Oct 16, 2016

I have always really liked these rifles, but as a lefty shooter I doubt I'll ever own one (maybe except the 10/22).

If Browning made a 18" barrel BAR in .358 or .450 Bushmaster with a full stock I'd probably buy one...

Jingles · Oct 17, 2016

I've always liked the look of Mannlicher stocks, but often wondered what purpose they were supposed to serve. It would seem intuitive that the stock would warp and add extra weight. Anyone know the background on what they were for?

Texas Star · Oct 17, 2016

Jingles said:
I've always liked the look of Mannlicher stocks, but often wondered what purpose they were supposed to serve. It would seem intuitive that the stock would warp and add extra weight. Anyone know the background on what they were for?

I think the stock is supposed to protect the barrel and to add looks to a short-barreled rifle that 'd look odd otherwise.

And they were originally for hunting in the Alps, where a shorter, lighter rifle was preferred.

M1A · Oct 17, 2016

Nice thread. My contribution is a Ruger 77RSI in .243. A woodland deer slayer.

hkcavalier · Oct 21, 2016

This week, at a local store I ran across a stutzen/Mannlicher stock Sako in .375 H&H.

Super well balanced too. If I was a righty I would have taken it home. Elk/moose/bear gun? Sure! Less than $1000.

jimwilkes · Oct 21, 2016

Mannlicher stocked rifles

Years ago, I had a Ruger RSI in .308. Trim, light, handled like a dream. Like an idiot I traded it for a Marlin 1895 in 45-70. Got rid of that too after shoulder surgery. Saw a Ruger No. 1 International at Cabelas in .257 Roberts. Should have got it, when I went back, it was gone.

StickShift · Oct 23, 2016

I have two Mannlicher-style rifles, both CZs - a 455FS and a 527FS. The 527 is a .223, though it can handle 5.56 loads just fine. Both are very accurate, but the thin barrel on the 527 heats up very quickly. The lower muzzle velocity of .22LR through the 455FS means it can shoot longer before groups open up.

I like the Mannlicher/stuzen stocks for their looks and balance, but there are more practical choices. Then again, I'm not going into combat, so I can afford sacrificing some practicality for style. And boy do these rifles have style. The 527FS is pictured below.

Ranger514 · Oct 23, 2016

I have one of the Lipsey's Ruger M77 RSI in .30-06. It was love at first sight when I saw it on the rack at the LGS.

Texas Star · Oct 23, 2016

StickShift said:
I have two Mannlicher-style rifles, both CZs - a 455FS and a 527FS. The 527 is a .223, though it can handle 5.56 loads just fine. Both are very accurate, but the thin barrel on the 527 heats up very quickly. The lower muzzle velocity of .22LR through the 455FS means it can shoot longer before groups open up.

I like the Mannlicher/stuzen stocks for their looks and balance, but there are more practical choices. Then again, I'm not going into combat, so I can afford sacrificing some practicality for style. And boy do these rifles have style. The 527FS is pictured below.

What exactly do you mean the .223 bbl. heats up very quickly? After five rounds? 20?

I don't recall my 1908 model M-S bbl. heating up sooner than on most rifles in comparable calibers, but the caliber and barrel thickness differ so much from yours that there's no comparison.

In the field, you won't fire more than five shots at a coyote or bobcat, so the barrel heating is hardly an issue. At a range, it might be, if you shoot a lot.

Thanks for the good photo of your handsome rifle.

StickShift · Oct 23, 2016

Texas Star said:
What exactly do you mean the .223 bbl. heats up very quickly? After five rounds? 20?

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In the field, you won't fire more than five shots at a coyote or bobcat, so the barrel heating is hardly an issue. At a range, it might be, if you shoot a lot.

Thanks for the good photo of your handsome rifle.

Thank you for the kind words. Natural lighting allows even a smart phone to take good pictures.

Its generally good for 10-15 rounds before groups open up, and about 10 more before it strings. You're right that it's fine out in the field (as designed), but there are better choices to bring to the range. I make sure to bring other rifles to the range so I can let the barrel cool off between groups. A Carbine would have been a more practical choice, since the shorter stock doesn't retain the heat in the thin barrel like the full stock does, but the FS was too gorgeous to pass up.

By comparison, the 455FS's groups gradually open up as it gets hot, with no shift in zero or stringing. I don't remember exactly how many rounds it takes to double the starting group size, but IIRC it's 50+. It makes a surprisingly good range gun as long as don't need to kill staples at 75 yards.

Texas Star · Oct 24, 2016

StickShift said:
Thank you for the kind words. Natural lighting allows even a smart phone to take good pictures.

Its generally good for 10-15 rounds before groups open up, and about 10 more before it strings. You're right that it's fine out in the field (as designed), but there are better choices to bring to the range. I make sure to bring other rifles to the range so I can let the barrel cool off between groups. A Carbine would have been a more practical choice, since the shorter stock doesn't retain the heat in the thin barrel like the full stock does, but the FS was too gorgeous to pass up.

By comparison, the 455FS's groups gradually open up as it gets hot, with no shift in zero or stringing. I don't remember exactly how many rounds it takes to double the starting group size, but IIRC it's 50+. It makes a surprisingly good range gun as long as don't need to kill staples at 75 yards.

More like squirrels at 50 yards, and often less.

BAM-BAM · Oct 24, 2016

I have 452 CZ FSs (full stocks) / mannlichers in .22lr, 22magnum and a 527FS in .223/5.56.

From a practical standpoint I've never experienced issues with barrels heating up..........these are my "Walking in Penn's Woods" rifles.....50 rds of .22mag. can last a whole season........ April to November...............

my banging away at the range rifles are my 15-22 and 10/22s.... even then I'm more of a aimed fire vs a "mag dump" kind of guy.

Stickshift....... sweeet CZ !!!!!! what scope????? ...... I favor Leupold 1-4 or 1-5x20 on my FSs.

My .22lr will do .4" at 50 yds and the .22mag and .223 are MOA shooters at 100yds.

bracebeemer · Oct 24, 2016

Mannlichers are one of my favorites also. The gun I have pictured is an original Mauser Sporting Rifle ( carbine ). It is the Mod. S and this is a very early pre WW1 era gun. It was an export as it is stamped" Germany"on the butt stock. It is chambered in 7X57 Mauser and has the double schnable forend that the model S is known for. The unusual feature of this particular gun is the spoon handled bolt. It should have the pear shape bolt handle but the bolt is numbered to the gun so it is original. The other neat feature of this gun is the seldom seen Lyman 35 receiver sight made for the Mauser rifles. Hope you enjoy my not very good photos.
Bill

bracebeemer · Oct 24, 2016

I have a few more pictures of the Mauser.
Bill

Hairtrigger · Oct 24, 2016

Here is a gem
Ruger tang safety in 308
Just picked it up. It is missing the rear sight but otherwise in great condition

StickShift · Oct 24, 2016

BAM-BAM said:
Stickshift....... sweeet CZ !!!!!! what scope????? ...... I favor Leupold 1-4 or 1-5x20 on my FSs.

My .22lr will do .4" at 50 yds and the .22mag and .223 are MOA shooters at 100yds.

That's a Leupold Mark AR Mod 1 1.5-4x that I snagged from Midway when they had bunch of refurbished Leupolds in stock. I love how small and light it is, though the tactical reticle and exposed turrets really aren't necessary. The illuminated center dot sure is nice, though. I've also had a Vortex 2.5-10x and a Bushnell 1-6.5x on it, but the Leupold has the right combination of size, weight, and magnification for what I do with the rifle.

My 455FS shoots an inch with bulk ammo at 50 yards, closer to 3/4" with CCI SV. The 527FS is about 1.5" at 100 with bulk ammo and 3/4" with 69 grain SMKs...until it heats up of course. I need to double check the inlet on the rifle. When I first got it, the rear sight was contacting the stock and I had to take some sand paper to the recess around it. When its cold the barrel passes the dollar bill test, but I wonder if it contacts a bit when hot.

In any case, this isn't an issue for a low round count hunting rifle. If I ever decide to go after some small/medium game, I'm sure it will work perfectly.

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