Considering a Model 41

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Recently I have been thinking of getting a Model 41. One to shoot, not a wall hanger nor safe queen. Decent looking.

I don't know much about them except they are known to be accurate and have the same grip angle as a 1911 which I like and a good trigger feel.

What do I look for? What would be the price range for something like that?

Thanks!
 
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Model 41

Buy the oldest model you can afford. The late 50's, 60's are
some of best they ever made. Workmanship quality, beautiful
blue finish etc. Barrel length is a matter of individual choice,
7 3/8", 5 1/2", 5".

Do your research. Should be able to find nice one, pistol only
$700-$900, depending on location. Kind of selective on ammo,
most prefer CCI SV. That's what I use in my 1959 Model 41
See what brand you'rs like best.

Good luck, they are great little targer shooters.
 
You might want to check prices on Pardinis and Hamerlis. Many of the high scoring bullseye shooters in my area shoot these. I have a Model 41 that shoots better than I do, so I can't complain.
 
I enjoy my 41 a lot. Been using it in .22 2gun shoots since things opened back up. I’ve been a Colt Woodsman collector since the 80s. Love them. The 2nd series MT are my favorite .22 Colt and are exceptional pistols but the Smith 41 just feels more grown up. You’ll enjoy shooting yours. Good luck on your quest.
Here’s a photo of my M41 and kit. Going to try the long barrel next Saturday in Steel Challenge.

Shot the steel challenge and while I didn’t do that well I liked the long barrel with irons over the field barrel with a dot. I have removed the mag safety as it would act up, I’d clean it and it would work until it didn’t. You can’t shoot a match with unreliable equipment. Had no issues since it’s been removed.
 

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What kind of shooting do you plan on doing ? A browning buck mark is a very accurate gun I have one with the 7.5" barrel I shoot bullseye pistol with it very accurate with cci standard 40gr. I had a 41 it was a 90's built gun it was a good gun but depending on your budget it might be out of range if you pick up a minty 41 from the 60's your probably gonna pay at least 1000-1200 for a good example the browning about 700-750ish
 
Thanks for the replies.

I like casual target shooting. Not looking to compete.

What are things to look for when buying a used 41?
 
I looked for an older one and ended up with a very nice one made in 1973.

I would look for a cocked hammer indicator and high gloss blueing on the frame as those clues indicate one made prior to the mid 1970's.

Cocked hammer indicator is a pin at the rear of the frame.
 

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There are other pistols that will shoot as well as a 41, I have several but I still use my mid 60’s vintage 41 for bullseye. Other pistols have good balance, good triggers, good accuracy but the 41 has all of the above IMO. From a Ransom, my High Standard and Nelson conversion 1911 might shoot a little tighter than the 41, but in my hand it is the best. P
 
I agree with Housepuss above. A 60's, 70's or early 80's M41 would be my choice. You won't get the lifetime factory warranty but you shouldn't need it either.
 
I bought a new 41 a year ago and it took 3 trips back to S&W--and almost a 4th--to get the kinks worked out. In my case, the trigger guard would stick in the open position, and it couldn't be closed. It also had a lot of feeding problems at first, perhaps owing to its newness. In any case, it's now working like a top--probably 1k rounds without a hiccup.



A couple of months after buying the new one, I bought a 79 vintage (right after they'd stopped putting the cocking indicator in)--the 7 & 3/8 barrel. It shot well at first, but then wouldn't go through a mag without several ftfs. I ended up sending it to David Sams and he gave it a thorough treatment--relined barrel, machined the breech face, reworked the safety, and it has probably 1500 rounds through it w/o a hiccup. Both guns are more accurate than I am. David Sams sent along the test target for the '79 and had 3/4 inch or less groups at 50 yards with a fixed rest.



If I got a new 41, then, I'd try to get it at a dealer so that you can to a field strip--or let them do it--to make sure that the trigger guard functions properly. It's been a common problem.



If I got an older one, I'd try to pay less than 1k for it so that you can send it to a good smith in case it needs work. I do like the older ones, especially in the 7 inch barrel. They're fabulous pistols once you get them dialed in.
 
I have owned 4-5 different Model 41 pistols. My favorite by far is a 5 1/2 inch heavy barrel model. I would prefer production prior to around 2005 or so. My problem is I always had other less expensive pistols, Rugers, that would shoot just as well and a whole lot less money. I always wound up trading off my model 41's. One thing about the model 41 is that they really hold their resale value well!
 
I have a couple of newer ones as in the last 15 years or so. They are great. If you get a newer one you have a warranty. Believe me as a 45 year accumulator of Smith and Wessons, the old ones can have many problems as well. I have had many older Smiths that had issue.
 
I don't know about why stewboy likes the 7" barrel, but I like it because it has enough muzzle weight that there is hardly any movement when you fire it freehand, and the barrel is long enough to fit on a sandbag or other support when you really want to get serious with accuracy. The older ones with the longer barrel and compensator are the ultimate M41, as far as I'm concerned, but otherwise the 7" is great. I wouldn't hold out for one without a cocking indicator, S&W deleted it because it's really unnecessary. If you've inserted a magazine and pulled the slide back, you know it's cocked, if the magazine is out and you are unsure of a loaded chamber, you check it before doing anything else, just as you would any other semiauto; that will also cock it. Never depend on built-in telltales. About the only time a M41 isn't cocked is if you dry fire it with a magazine in it (don't do that), or if you get a dud round. I agree, get as old a model as you can find, but they are good well into the late 1980's and 1990's. The key to reliability is keeping them clean, especially around the breech and extractor. My 7" 1985 vintage:
 

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Thank you for the responses. They are very helpful.

@Stewboy Why do you prefer the 7" barrel?


I wish there were a better rationale, but there isn't: I just like the looks of that long-*** barrel!



That said, everything Hair Trigger says makes sense to me, especially the part about the bag rest. It's worth noting that my 2022 (5.5 inch barrel) is actually slightly heavier than my 1979 (7.3 inch barrel). 1979 41 is pictured w/ new Altamont grips.
 

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About a year ago, I bought a new Model 41 with the longer barrel because all my other 22LR autoloaders have five-inch barrels. I had a problem with it failing to cycle so I returned it for warranty repairs. Upon its return, which was prompt, the condition remained so I called again. I was told to try CCI SV as that is what they use to test-fire Model 41s. That's one of the loads I had tried so I took it to my gunsmith.

He worked the slide back and forth and said he thought it was a little stiff to move so he laid a small straight edge along the slide's rails and found a high spot. Once he worked the slide back and forth with some compound on the rails, the stiffness was gone and the gun even cycles mild match ammo perfectly.

I since gave in to the aging eyes syndrome and put a dot optic on it. I also have a Model 22A-1 Talo edition that has been positively trouble-free and shoots very accurately. I've been toying with buying a PC Victory with the muzzle brake and optic sight but every time I am about to go for it, I read another Victory horror story.

Ed
 

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Don’t consider it - just do it. I don’t think you will regret it. As others said try and get an older one. I got mine from an estate with box and 2 mags. Put a recoil buffer in it. Never any feeding issues. I’ve picked up extra mags. Look for some to buy on the forum. Generally shoot CCI Standard Velocity. It’s a tack driver.
Model 17 came from the same estate.
 

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