Its time we fight back to the price gougers of ammo. A time honored method is to boycott the sellers- they will artificially create a shortage and we may never see lower prices if we don't act as a group. A propagated black list will guarantee lower prices, I am sick of seeing 500 22lr for 80-90 bucks. Please join in and help end this madness.

Well, I havent been buying any, but I dont know how you can get around it if you have no ammo and want to shoot. I havent been a real active shooter for some time. I used to reload and have ammo stashed that is older than many of you on this site.

The last box of Federal 550 22ammo I bought was $9.97. My wife doesn't seem to think I'm as crazy now as she did when I'd have her grab a box or two every time she went to WalMart.

I just bought a box of 100 CCI stingers at Wal-Mart it was $7.94 + tax. I thought that was a reasonable price.

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I never thought .22 would be in short supply. Still can't figure out why.

I won't buy at $60 a brick, but if it drops to $30 I will pick one up.

My BIL is out of ammo and he and his son can't shoot .22 rifles. I told him I'd give him a brick so he'd have some. Hopefully someday we all can find some at reasonable prices.

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Ammo can be found at reasonable prices the purpose of the list is to discourage the price gouging. These vendors will promptly lower prices when they are made aware they are on the list but we need to take serious action and advantage of the power that we have as social media participants. and yes buying like at "walmart" at lower prices is the solution (or reloading but there is gouging there also). lets start a list and you will see the results.

why am I starting this let me tell you. My best friend owns a mini-storage and he confided in me that our local gun shop owner has now 3 storage units full of ammo in particular he mentioned that about half of one unit is stacked to the sealing with Remington thunderbolt 22lr which this guy only stocks 2-3 boxes in the store at a time and has told me that is all he can get and charges 79.00 for 500 rounds. we are being played for fools and frankly I dont like it.

if i were you, id directly ask the gs owner if he was misleading his customers,as your friend says. if i knew it to be true, id let other customers know. sure business is about making a profit ,but lying and skinning your customers isnt an honourable way of going about it.
yes id boycott this store, but i would calmly tell the owner why, in person. maybe youd get the "good guy" price..

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Well, it helps if your idea of plinking doesn't involve entire bricks of ammo each time out. When I was a kid buying a box of .22 LR was like a prospector making a big strike.

You can get it now if in stock? at WM for about $19 a brick (I scored two about 2 or so months ago--same trip) and about $22 at Academy for a brick. .

Most likely that gs owner would tell ya do more than "Go fly a kite" kinda thing.

I remember buying bricks for under $4.00. I remember when a box of 100-9mm went for $2.50. I remember when a box of 30 cal was the same.

This one is only for the theme which I THINK was done by Rosemary Clooney for an old HBO Doc series on remembering how things were. I cant find her version of this song anywhere.:
http://youtu.be/-EthRIh2I9M
http://youtu.be/bIbUJGIPz-E
http://youtu.be/728tL3pYCBg

I have purchased 1100 rounds of CCI Minimag in the last month at $9.99 a box or less. The price gouger days are coming to an end.

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I already boycott high prices of anything, and anyone that charges them. Duh! I don't need a list to tell me who is over priced and who is not. The last brick of 550 that I bought I paid $15.00 plus tax for it. If and when I see it down under $20.00 a box again I will pick up a few more bricks.

The real problem is the idiots paying those exorbitant prices for .22 LR. As long as they will pay, people will charge that for it. This is not life and death stuff like water or gas in a disaster. These .22LR are used for sports and entertainment mostly, and some hunting.

In other words hiking prices on this stuff is like hiking prices on tickets to sporting events or concerts and I just can’t get that worked up about it. I do pay attention to how retailers handle it and I will adjust my buying accordingly, but I have no interest in some blackball list.

The best way to bring prices down is to just stop buying the over priced stuff.

One of the reasons I like .22 LR is that it is cheap. If it costs nearly as much as 9 mm or .38 special, I will not shoot as much of it. I mean it is still fun to plink with, but no doubt the low cost is its most attractive feature.

I am amazed the quantities of .22 LR have remained depressed this long, and the prices in some area so high. In a free and open market it is just not possible to keep prices that high on something that can be easily made. The only way is some artificial interference in the free market system on a massive level, far beyond what a few hoarders or flippers could create. This would require billions of dollars to create this type of long term shortage, or it would require some type of government interference.

The economic laws governing this are as reliable as the law of gravity. If you step off a cliff you will fall unless something supports you. In a free market “profits breed competition and excess profits breed ruinous competition.” This could be considered the first law of economics.

Why is your friend peeking in private secure storage areas? As a businessman, he should be concerned with his customers privacy a little more.

Is it possible that the shop owner is doing the same as everybody else and buying all he can get when ever he can in an effort to have a supply and then rationing it slowly? You know if he put multiple pallets of ammo out for sale, all he would have left to sell is the pallets.

Demand is up. There are more guns, more shooters, and more people using the evil semi auto shooting up drums of ammo.
Cost of lead, brass and powder has increased. The reason retailers display two or three is because the normal purchase quantity is now all you can get. It's easier to say "that s all" than "thats all you can have". I used to shoot a box, then buy a box on the way home. Now, if I see a couple of boxes, I buy them. I used to feed a Marlin bolt action 22 on about one box every year. Now, my SW 22a eats that as a warm up to serious shooting.

I have seen pictures posted on gun forums with people showing off their personal stash of ammo. Some have more backup than the big box retailers. Price gets too high, I let the guns rest for a while. Guns and ammo are not absolute necessities for survival, like food, medicine, or beer. The gun can actually not be shot for months, and still serve as a personal protection device.

Boycotting your LGS may work. It may even put him out of business. Right now, he has ammo to sell. He is selling it. Without knowing his costs, it is a little difficult to know if he is gouging or not. Putting the LGS out of business helps you how?

I have 3 big box suppliers I shop. The quantity of 9mm is coming up. There is usually something available. Prices are higher than I like, but the price of most anything I like is higher than I prefer. 22 is spotty and high priced, with the occasional promotion coming through. Other pistol calibers are available, and .223 is getting common again.

I just bought tires for my truck, necessary for working. I paid less money for several cars I have owned. Everything costs more. Priorities have to be set. As much as I hate saying it, sometimes you just have to do without something.

One more point, some gun shops are keeping their 22 ammo behind the counter out of sight. If someone asks for it they try to determine if you're hoarding or buying it to resell. And yes some customers are dumb enough to make their intentions known.

Regular customers get first shot at the 22 ammo.

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Before I retired when I filled up my plain wrapper, the pump had no dollars signs on it, free to me, and the ammo was free. Now that I am retired, OMG!! thank God I still have 4000 rounds of 9mm Federal Law Enforcement 147 gr. HST stored away and I only drive less than a 100 miles a month now in my private car. The pump now has large dollar signs on it!!

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Kinda preaching to choir around here, Hoss. I doubt many if any of us have done the $90/brick thing.

And "Less Expensive than Soil" is already a dirty phrase most places...

But here ya go.... you'll need to backorder but from what I hear the wait is reasonable.

Rimfire Ammo | Ammo

I think you have it figured out. Larry

If you're willing to get out of bed early tomorrow GM has 1400rd tubs of Remington .22lr for 60 bucks limit of 2 per customer....they open at 6am!

I got a brick for 20 bucks last night at Dicks. That's about the limit I'll pay for a brick but I am willing to play at that price.

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I mentioned this in a post last week. Bass Pro as part of Black Friday had Winchester Super X .22 for $25 per brick. One per customer. Store opened at 5:00am.
Just so happened that I stopped in there to look at something else this morning around 10:00. I asked the guy behind the counter how long the .22s lasted. He rolled his eyes and said "Not long".
Kinda hard to organize a boycott when people are getting out of bed before sunrise to snatch up whatever they can.

maybe, but at least id have looked him in the eye and told him what one ex-customer thinks.
the gunstore i frequent ,never gave in to the profiteering that went on. 22 prices are a little higher than they were before but i believe this is because wholesale prices were raised.
gun powder was/is limited to 2lbs per person ,just to spread it around fairly.
another store i use ,recently sold me their last 2 lbs of 231 for a great price. when i commented on the price he said those were from an earlier order, before the "panic". so sold them at pre-panic prices.
both the men that own these stores understand that the shooting community isnt really that big, and customer relations go a long way toward success.

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Not here unfortunately. All their ammo is seen on shelves behind the counter and all still 3-4 or more times over-priced which is why I stick with Academy and Wally World for ammo.

I gave one the vote of walking out last year-havent been back since. That was May 2012--shortly after he first opened his doors. Several other shops here (not all of them but several) dont get my business either. In fact, I do buy from gun shops--but only from GS owners I know and or am friends with.

Southland Arms in Beasley, TX is a shop just started this year and they are doing things right. They dont make much profit on guns-maybe $25-$50 bucks per weapon. They have their ammo priced reasonably too and MIGHT make a buck or two over WM and Academy on 22 lr bricks and such. Im happy to report their new show is doing very well and you will see them at most or all the good gun shows here in Texas. Stuff they couldnt get 2 months ago--they are getting in now.

Im trying to get Brad and his partner to sign up here for a Venders deal. I think they are too busy at this time to think about or to remember to do so? Anyway, I remind them when I see them at shows.

Anyway, for GS here--all the ones ill never enter again--do NOT--care what the customer thinks and does NOT--take care of their needs. I could list a name or two--but I think that is a no-no here? Others I will go into, but dont have much time to visit them like I want-so I stick with friends and such.

It's simple supply and demand. Today's economy is everyman for themselves. The only solution is to not buy. That drives the prices down.
As someone who is new to shooting, I did not know that this was going on, but I do know basic economics. I only buy from Walmart which I'm assuming has reasonable prices. $7.47 for a 100 rd box of CCI mini mags. Don't know if that's fair as I don't have any past reference to go by, but it seems that's the lowest price around. I also use the Walmart website app for the computer (not ipad) that someone posted a while back. It works great! Every time a store says it's in stock, it is. I checked today and have found at least three stores within 20 miles of me that have the mags in stock.
I now have plenty of mini mags and do not intend to buy anymore until I get very low (low to me is about 500 rds) I will also not pay anymore that $7.50 per 100 box of quality ammo. No list is needed. It's up to us to do personal boycotts.
It someone is overcharging....(insert picture of a screw here) them and walk away. Also forget about those websites with high ammo prices. Avoid them like an ex-wife.

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Well, if a brick is 500 rounds and a box is 50 rounds, you're paying $50/brick and that's at least 3 times what they were last year. So, no, that's not an example of prices coming down.


The problem with a boycott like this is quantity. If we got everyone here to agree to stop buying .22LR for a while, it would only be .01% of all those buying .22s. And, you won't even get all of the members of this forum to join. The impact we'd have is so small it's beyond insignificant.

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GM advertised a Black Friday special on .22lr and 9mm, starting at midnight. This morning, I was in the neighborhood, so I stopped in to take a look and see what, if anything, was left. The buckets of .22lr had all sold out, but for the first time in a while, they had 9mm in quantity. I bought , I guess you would call it a brick but it was the size of three bricks, 350 rounds of 9mm for $109.00, which works out to $15.57 for 50, a couple bucks cheaper than it was a year and a half ago.

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It would't surprise me if some sellers took inventory off the shelves of their stores or web sites.

SGAmmo was the go-to place for CCI Standard Velocity. These guys regularly had upwards of a hundred cases or more for buying on line. Early this year it went to zero... and has remained at zero since. Wouldn't surprise me if it's being listed on Armslist or wherever. I'm not saying they are doing this, it just would't surprise me. They are in business to make a profit. If they can sell the stuff for $80 a brick instead of $250/case like they were doing, then good for them.

I haven't bought hardly any .22LR this year but I have a large supply. The guys running around like a chicken with it's head cut off looking for a brick are typically the ones wanting everyone else to stop buying.

Midway is taking backorders, and prices aren't that bad. CCI MiniMags $325/5k. Winchester 555 $250/5.5k. Fed American Eagle $195/4k. Buy two or three cases and relax. When it shows up next year you'll be set for a while.

I stopped by the local Cabela's after Thanksgiving dinner, thinking they might be open after 5 p.m. like some other businesses. They were closed, but a half a dozen or more folks were bundled up sitting at the darkened entrance, claiming their first in line status for Black Friday. If that's what it takes to get a reasonable price on .22 LR you can count me out. Except for a small amount of .22 mag. I've run through a NAA Pug, I haven't shot any of my .22 firearms in over a year. I will start shooting them again when the supply increases, and prices fall as demand is met. Until then, they will sit in my safe.

You're shopping in the wrong place. I bought 500 rounds of 22LR this week for $24.99 and I thought that was high.

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And the rest of the story is that the first 600 folks got a free gift card of varying denominations and chances on free guns and gear. As well as a whole host of other BF Specials. To some, this is worth camping out. It is not my "thing" but it affects me none.

I was at Cabela's at 6:30 and the first wave was gone. I quickly found a place to park walked in, bought the $17 brick (that was being guarded by and handed out of a Gaylord by two employees), looked around for awhile, found a shirt I liked, paid up and left. No big deal.

If you folks want to "boycott" maybe you can go talk to the guys buying AR's and burning up 500 rounds a session at the range. I'm sure they'll listen.

Otherwise, you can sleep in and if you choose to go shooting, pay a convenience fee to those who are willing to get up early.

I think most of us are just buying it online and paying a bit more than last year for the convenience.

Problem solved!

Lose an hour's sleep and drive 10 minutes to save $50 or $60 bucks? Hell Yeah! Where do I sign up?

Around here 22 ammo is in scarce as hens teeth. But when I find it I pay about $5.75 per 50 rounds or $9.87 for 100 rounds.

If you are willing to pay $60-$90 for a brick of 500 you are driving the high price. If people refuse to pay the higher prices they just might come down.

Some of us older people remember buying a 50 round box and then thinking about every shot we took; because getting a quarter took a lot of work collecting bottles or newspapers to be able to have some nickels to spend.

I remember one time my best friend had 12 cents between us, we went to the Ma& Pop store and got a small coke and a snickers and took turns drinking and taking bites.

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True. However CCi Mini Mags have been the standard for as long as I can remember. And we have always paid more for them. And it's the only 22 ammo I've seen anywhere.

When I see people driving hundreds of miles just to buy a brick, I am actually coming out ahead. I find my ammo within an 8 mile radius.

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You are right !! The gun stores are loaded with guns and ammo
right now. They had all these guns on order and they all came in. The prices didn't go down yet but if we wait they have to lower there prices. My LGS owner told me he got to sells guns because he owes so much money this month. Walk in with cash and get your deals. I bought a SW 357PC revolver -List was $1200. Paid $900 and one box of ammo.

There is a LGS here in central indiana,that had a Black Friday ad
Stating they had one million rounds of 22 lr in stock for their Black Friday
Shoppers.
That sounds to me like they have been saving back to play their hand at the proper time. Some may call it marketing and some may call it something else, but anyway you look at it the supply must be getting better.

Vic3620

Are you talking Hollow-point mini mags? I haven't seen round nose in a year. I'm paying $12 per 100 for hollows. I wish I could use standard velocity but gun won't cycle.

Both hollow point and round.

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You're lucky! Local shop has been great getting everything except mini mag round nose. Just nonexistent here in Massachusetts. I'm running out of my stockpile from 2004-2006 and its traumatic paying $12/100

I've never ran out of ammo.

I've never bought from a "scalper/hoarder".

I've never paid exhorborant prices.

I don't buy one box or brick at a time at Wally's.

I've been to the range 3 times this week. Shot a little over 300 rounds each time. I'll probably go again Sat and/or Sunday.

I don't need a list to tell me where it's too expensive. Unbelievable as it may seem, I have no trouble discovering that on my own. Instead, I prefer to focus my energy on, unbelievable as it may seem, how to shoot a LOT withOUT spending a gazillion dollars.


Maybe that old Boy Scout training paid off.


Sgt Lumpy

Prepper!

While $10/100 for MiniMags is high, it's not scalper high. A LGS that's known to be pricey was selling 'em for $13/100 a few years ago. $8-ish/100 is a normal Wally World price.

MiniMags are generally considered some of the best .22 ammo around unless you want to start getting into the serious match grade stuff. That's another kettle o' fish.

A fool and his money...
Only the fools are paying the ridiculous prices. I can only hope that we still vastly outnumber the fools

One thing I find odd is that I cant find any Federal Auto-match (325 rnds) This stuff runs great through my semi's. Anyone else use this? Is it still being made?

Try this one. There's a gun shop in Surf City, NC carrying CCI mini mags for, get this, $100 a brick!, or $19.95 for a 100 rd box. The look of amazement on my face was evident. The salesman then say's,"We're not gouging"
Started looking at other items and noticed everything was over MSRP by a considerable amount. I think the Marine Base is so close by and they have no where else to go and so hey lets rip off our servicemen.
The whole scene disgusted me. I don't care if he's whats considered a small business or not. There's Capitalism and free market then there's out and out, no morals, greed.

Yes to both questions. I picked up a few boxes of those at Academy around a few months ago.

That's what ive been alluding to all along about all scalpers and certain flippers and such--only to be told once that was crying but, then again, I dont care if someone considers it crying or not? The greed part on flippers and small businesses-still is immoral and they know it.

I can't believe how much some people whip themselves up into a frenzy over 22s. I know paying more sucks but I adjust accordingly. Shoot that cal less, sell it or pay up! I loved it when 7.62x25 was $5 for a box of 72. Now its $30 IF you can find it. Well I don't shoot those guns any more. It is what it is

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Im done with this thread.