Does anyone have any experience with this ammo? What is the shortest barrel I could shoot this ammo in? Why would I use this over a standard load? Can any production revolvers handle this ammo or is it for rifles? I really just don't understand what the extra "p" is for. I have a S&W 629 trailboss and a model 29 with a 6" barrel and would like to maybe use that type of ammo for hunting or protection on backpacking. I have seen this ammo at the local cabelas and don't really know if it's safe or will blow up in my face. Any advice would be greatly appreciated. Thanks

Buffalo Bores +P+ 44 ammo is what we would call a "Ruger Only" type load. Buffalo Bore says specifically to not use it in S&W's. I would take them at their word personally.

Barrel length is irrelevant.

Not only is the pressure higher than the m29 is designed to take, but I believe the BB rounds may be too long.

There is a list of acceptable firearms for this load on the BB site.

Why not just buy a hammer and hit yourself squarely in your forehead, plus your wrists and hands? The hammer is a lot cheaper than the ammunition and you will get the same sensation. I am sure there are countless ways to reload 44 Mag ammo that will absolutely blow up your Model 29 without guessing if BB ++PP++ will do the job!

Sorry for the rant . . . but is there no limit to what shooters will do to hurt themselves or their firearms - and for what purpose - not to mention ammunition manufacturers???

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Gary
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Now that's funny right there!

And there is truth in it. At my age I got nothing to prove to anybody.

Hint: There is NO SUCH THING as 44Mag+P+!! Any company that advertises and/or sells such ammo is perpetrating a fraud and making dangerous ammo. If this 44Mag ammo cannot safely be fired in ALL GUNS chambered for 44Mag, then it shouldn't be made let alone sold on the retail market. Pretty soon some fool is going to blow themselves up using such ammo.

Sorry but I disagree, while you or I might see no use for such a hot loaded ammo they are simply offering ammo loaded to a level previously available only to handloaders. They go out of their way to warn their customers what guns they are safe for and what guns they aren't safe for. To try and say they are committing some type of fraud because of it is ridiculous. They make their limitations well known on both their website and on the individual boxes of ammo, if someone decides to ignore the warnings then whatever happens is on their shoulders. Buffalo Bore goes so far as to state that if there are incidents of people using the ammo inappropriately they will stop manufacturing it.

Tell us all, what exactly does your age have to do with the ammo mentioned in this thread??

Buffalo Bore gives a list of guns this ammo is to be fired in; S&W is NOT on the list.

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Pisgah

This is a designation that indicates the ammunition is loaded to a pressure level ABOVE SAAMI Specifications for this cartridge.

Occasionally this is an advertising gimmick and the ammunition is loaded 1% above the spec.

Other times it is loaded significantly above SAAMI standard.

Since there is no standard for +P+, there is nothing stopping them from loading any level, even double pressure if they desire or beyond.

Their a** is covered, the warned you about the pressure.

If I might presume to answer for blujax01, I believe his point is that for the majority of .44 Magnum shooters the load in question is well shy of required or even reasonable use (clearly its makers agree), and the desire to try it anyway is a "biggest and baddest" impulse more commonly found in those looking to push the envelope for no purpose other than to do it; often that's an indication of something to prove...a trait more commonly found in the younger male folk.

Has anyone asked BB what chamber pressures were for any of their loads?? If you look at their "40+p" it is listed as " high velocity at low pressure" whatever that means. High,low,fast slow mean nothing out of context. 10 pounds is 10 pounds, 11 pounds is higher, while 9 pounds is lower, without Numbers it is all Hype! SAAMI for S&W 40 is 35000 psi intentionally loading above the MAX would open them to litigation regardless of the warning. +p, +P+ are designations for pressures for 38 special, 9mm, trapdoor rifles, due to change from black powder to smokeless, and improvements in metallurgy, 40S&W,500S&W have max pressures listed, loading a 500S&W +P+ commercially would be a lawsuit waiting to happen. Hype, they are not stupid. Be Safe,

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I BACK OUR BLUE

I know there's a cadre of loyal Buffalo Bore fans here, but I'll go out on a limb and say that when in doubt, go with proven loads from any of the big ammo makers.

SOMEONE FINALLY GET'S IT!!!

Well written.

All ammo manufacturers that i know of could be a LOT more forthcoming with test conditions than just saying "1200 fps". Chamber pressure might not mean anything to many people, but anybody more serious reads it and says, "Velocity alone is worthless information."

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