Red lipstick ball ammo.

martybee · Jan 4, 2016

Have you seen or read about the new offering from Federal featuring, American Eagle Syntech Ammunition?
These are red polymer coated range ammo that look like lipsticks.
Federal Premium is about to introduce a new line of ammunition under its American Eagle brand, called Syntech.
The new ammunition uses a polymer jacket instead of a more traditional copper one.
Read the original article here: American Eagle Syntech Ammunition

There is another fine article and review by: Patrick Sweeney in the Feb, 2016 issue of: Guns&Ammo magazine. page 23.
He reviewed the Syntechs' 9mm 115gr., .40 cal 165gr., and the .45ACP 230gr. polymer coated ball ammunition.
It is intended for target use only. I am not sure if they have plans to develop these in HP, for SD use.
Is it any good? Patrick remarks, "Based on my testing, Syntech is a winner too."

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Nevada Ed · Jan 5, 2016

It is a start..................

Nice to see it coming out with a major ammo company, finally.

Will the old "Nyclad" rise from the grave in a new color?

martybee · Jan 5, 2016

Nevada Ed said:
It is a start..................

Nice to see it coming out with a major ammo company, finally.

Will the old "Nyclad" rise from the grave in a new color?

Yes, I think maybe they will make a resurrection!

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Nevada Ed · Jan 9, 2016

if this works it has the price of the ammo.

New For 2016: American Eagle's Polymer-Encapsulated Syntech Ammo

John R · Jan 9, 2016

Nevada Ed said:
if this works it has the price of the ammo.

New For 2016: American Eagle's Polymer-Encapsulated Syntech Ammo

Sure doesn't look to be cheaper to me.

Prices for the Syntech ammunition are as follows:

9mm Luger 115 grain: $19.95
40 S&W 165 grain: $26.95
45 Auto 230 grain: $33.95

muddocktor · Jan 9, 2016

I wonder if it's a coating such as the Aussie Hy-Tek coating that has caught on with several bullet manufacturers here for the reloaders such as Bayou Bullets and Missouri Bullets?

10mm_Shooter · Jan 9, 2016

not too exicted about it simply because over time it may make it easier for the EPA to push a total ban on "plain" lead bullets, or make it easier for an indoor range to ban non-coated bullets. Just my .02 opinion nothing against the pc bullets. Obiviouly I cast my own bullets so would prefer this to not be interfered with. I have even used Bayou Bullets HiTech coating. It works but for me its a solution looking for a problem. I can easily push my .44 loads at 1500 fps with proper sizing, lube and alloy. No need for pc coatings in my world.

Jessie · Jan 20, 2016

I would rather see a color other than red since most snap caps I've seen are also red.
Murphy's Law lurks everywhere.

BC38 · Jan 20, 2016

10mm_Shooter said:
not too exicted about it simply because over time it may make it easier for the EPA to push a total ban on "plain" lead bullets, or make it easier for an indoor range to ban non-coated bullets. Just my .02 opinion nothing against the pc bullets.

Just curious, but haven't the indoor ranges in your area banned plain lead bullets yet? They all have around here. Might make for an interesting poll...

caleb4387 · Jan 20, 2016

BC38 said:
Just curious, but haven't the indoor ranges in your area banned plain lead bullets yet? They all have around here. Might make for an interesting poll...

Mine hasn't. They still sell emergency as range ammo

H Richard · Jan 20, 2016

What is different about this from the "old" Nyclad ammo back in the 80's? I got a hold of a couple thousand 158 gr. HP Nyclad bullets (not loaded ammo), back then and my hand-loads shot fantastic, with minimal clean up problems.

martybee · Jan 21, 2016

H Richard said:
What is different about this from the "old" Nyclad ammo back in the 80's? I got a hold of a couple thousand 158 gr. HP Nyclad bullets (not loaded ammo), back then and my hand-loads shot fantastic, with minimal clean up problems.

The old Nyclad bullets were HP for SD. these are all ball ammo bullets for target shooting.
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Codinqueen · Jul 30, 2016

What are the chances this Syntech bullet will come out in 380 caliber soon? Anybody know?? I am all for easier weapon clean-up after a day at the range, but I have a S&W BG 380.

Boudiepitbull · Jul 30, 2016

BC38 said:
Just curious, but haven't the indoor ranges in your area banned plain lead bullets yet? They all have around here. Might make for an interesting poll...

Lead ban in place at the indoor range where my son sometimes takes me to shoot. Only frangible allowed, and preferably only the frangible they sell you. No ban at our outdoor range, but it's been reported in some local papers that the RSOs are suffering from exposure to lead and everyone is now undergoing frequent testing. In my old hometown the police range was closed and the cleanup was considered like an EPA disaster site. This issue may just become another way to try and control firearm use.

CTG_COLLECTOR · Jul 30, 2016

muddocktor said:
I wonder if it's a coating such as the Aussie Hy-Tek coating that has caught on with several bullet manufacturers here for the reloaders such as Bayou Bullets and Missouri Bullets?

S&W first came out with the Nyclad ammo back in the early 70's. Years after they stopped producing ammo Federal bought the rights to the Nyclad product.

Eleven years ago ARES of Slovakia started production of a nylon coated bullet in multiple calibers, weights and colors. They even had a run of 9mm ammo using their colored bullets.

CTG_COLLECTOR · Jul 30, 2016

10mm_Shooter said:
not too exicted about it simply because over time it may make it easier for the EPA to push a total ban on "plain" lead bullets, or make it easier for an indoor range to ban non-coated bullets. Just my .02 opinion nothing against the pc bullets. Obiviouly I cast my own bullets so would prefer this to not be interfered with. I have even used Bayou Bullets HiTech coating. It works but for me its a solution looking for a problem. I can easily push my .44 loads at 1500 fps with proper sizing, lube and alloy. No need for pc coatings in my world.

The federal courts have already ruled that the EPA cannot restrict or ban the use of lead in sporting goods, i.e.: bullets, shot, fishing weights etc.

CTG_COLLECTOR · Jul 30, 2016

martybee said:
The old Nyclad bullets were HP for SD. these are all ball ammo bullets for target shooting.
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Not all Nyclad loads were of HP design. Both S&W and Federal produced 9mm RN and SWC loads in 38Spl & 357Mag.

Federal even produced 9mm 124gr Nyclad RN ammo for law enforcement training use.

rwsmith · Jul 30, 2016

It seems back then.....

It seem that back then the Nyclads were a little pricey when every other kind of ammo was common and cheap. That's why I only got one box and still have a couple.

I think that their time time has come. Especially since I and others buy coated bullets by the thousands from commercial casters.

Do you remember the stink about 'Teflon Coated Bullets'? Any chance that could come back?

CTG_COLLECTOR · Jul 30, 2016

rwsmith said:
It seem that back then the Nyclads were a little pricey when every other kind of ammo was common and cheap. That's why I only got one box and still have a couple.

I think that their time time has come. Especially since I and others buy coated bullets by the thousands from commercial casters.

Do you remember the stink about 'Teflon Coated Bullets'? Any chance that could come back?

Doubtful. No manufacturer is going to be willing to take on the political hell that will come with "Teflon" coated bullets. Just look at the HE Double Hockey Sticks Winchester went thru with politicians claiming that their BT ammo was "Teflon" coated "cop-killer" bullets.

oldfart64 · Jul 30, 2016

martybee said:
Have you seen or read about the new offering from Federal featuring, American Eagle Syntech Ammunition?
These are red polymer coated range ammo that look like lipsticks.
Federal Premium is about to introduce a new line of ammunition under its American Eagle brand, called Syntech.
The new ammunition uses a polymer jacket instead of a more traditional copper one.
Read the original article here: American Eagle Syntech Ammunition

There is another fine article and review by: Patrick Sweeney in the Feb, 2016 issue of: Guns&Ammo magazine. page 23.
He reviewed the Syntechs' 9mm 115gr., .40 cal 165gr., and the .45ACP 230gr. polymer coated ball ammunition.
It is intended for target use only. I am not sure if they have plans to develop these in HP, for SD use.
Is it any good? Patrick remarks, "Based on my testing, Syntech is a winner too."

mb

I bought a couple of boxes just to try out.I have a 9mm and the ammo is 124 gr. It is nice and clean burning. Easy to clean up after. It is accurate in my hands (2 to 3 inch circle) out to 15 yards. better at 10. I am going to buy some whenever it is on sale.

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