Red lipstick ball ammo.

[ArchAngelCD]

Not all Nyclad loads were of HP design. Both S&W and Federal produced 9mm RN and SWC loads in 38Spl & 357Mag.

Federal even produced 9mm 124gr Nyclad RN ammo for law enforcement training use.

Yes, they did make a 158gr SWC in .38 Special ammo.

 

[mojave30cal]

Will that leave a red smudge on your collar??

 

[Fishslayer]

As a dog person, I chuckled when I red "red lipstick" ball ammo...

 

[DWalt]

"Do you remember the stink about 'Teflon Coated Bullets'? Any chance that could come back? "

That referred to the KTW bullets of the 1960s-1970s, sold as having superior metal penetrating capabilities. There were several variations of the KTW bullet design, but the original used a tungsten alloy called "Kennertium" same as used to make snow tire studs (which I think are now illegal in many states as they tear up highways). The bullet noses were coated with a green Teflon composition. The anti-gun press picked up on these quickly, calling them "Teflon Coated Cop-Killer Bullets" despite the fact that, at least to my knowledge, no cops were ever killed by them. KTW restricted sales of their ammunition to LE agencies, although it was possible to find some at gun shows of that time. In fact, the Teflon coating did nothing to increase metal penetration, and later, KTW dropped the Teflon coating, partly because duPont refused to sell Teflon to them.

 

[Buford57]

"Do you remember the stink about 'Teflon Coated Bullets'? Any chance that could come back? "

That referred to the KTW bullets of the 1960s-1970s, sold as having superior metal penetrating capabilities. There were several variations of the KTW bullet design, but the original used a tungsten alloy called "Kennertium" same as used to make snow tire studs (which I think are now illegal in many states as they tear up highways). The bullet noses were coated with a green Teflon composition. The anti-gun press picked up on these quickly, calling them "Teflon Coated Cop-Killer Bullets" despite the fact that, at least to my knowledge, no cops were ever killed by them. KTW restricted sales of their ammunition to LE agencies, although it was possible to find some at gun shows of that time. In fact, the Teflon coating did nothing to increase metal penetration, and later, KTW dropped the Teflon coating, partly because duPont refused to sell Teflon to them.

Lots of misinformation got spread around about those. My partner and I had to draw extra ammo from the Dept's property room in about '85. The ET handed Bob a box of Nyclads and said "be careful with those - they'll go right through your vest".

 

[BUFF]

There's a review of the new Federal ammo in the current (September) issue of The American Rifleman.

They liked it but I don't remember ever reading a review of anything in A. R. they didn't like.

 

[elm_creek_smith]

Not everyone shoots bottom feeders. Any word on .38 Special/.357 Magnum?

 

[oldfart64]

Have you seen or read about the new offering from Federal featuring, American Eagle Syntech Ammunition?
These are red polymer coated range ammo that look like lipsticks.
Federal Premium is about to introduce a new line of ammunition under its American Eagle brand, called Syntech.
The new ammunition uses a polymer jacket instead of a more traditional copper one.
Read the original article here: American Eagle Syntech Ammunition

There is another fine article and review by: Patrick Sweeney in the Feb, 2016 issue of: Guns&Ammo magazine. page 23.
He reviewed the Syntechs' 9mm 115gr., .40 cal 165gr., and the .45ACP 230gr. polymer coated ball ammunition.
It is intended for target use only. I am not sure if they have plans to develop these in HP, for SD use.
Is it any good? Patrick remarks, "Based on my testing, Syntech is a winner too."

mb

I have shot about 100 rounds of both 124 and 147 gr. now. Apparently I shoot too slow for the barrel to get hot anyway, so this seems a non issue for me. I have noticed that the barrel when I swab it is pretty darn clean , I usually used federal 124 gr anyway, and I can pull some copper residue out after a hundred shots, but not with this stuff. pretty accurate although the 147 shoots better out of my shield.

 

[Springfield52]

Not everyone shoots bottom feeders. Any word on .38 Special/.357 Magnum?

I actually emailed Federal today to request they offer Syntech in .38 Special. I received a reply saying my request would be forwarded to the appropriate department....we'll see....

 

[rsrocket1]

Glad those companies are catching up.
...and pooh pooh to those naysayers on that other S&W forum

 

[Steve912]

"Do you remember the stink about 'Teflon Coated Bullets'? Any chance that could come back? "

In fact, the Teflon coating did nothing to increase metal penetration, and later, KTW dropped the Teflon coating, partly because duPont refused to sell Teflon to them.

The PTFE on the entire KTW slug was to give a softer bearing surface for it's trip down the barrel, similar to the 'bi-metal' applied to ComBloc mild steel jacketed slugs.

 

[CTG_COLLECTOR]

The PTFE on the entire KTW slug was to give a softer bearing surface for it's trip down the barrel, similar to the 'bi-metal' applied to ComBloc mild steel jacketed slugs.

Actually the KTW bullets were made with a copper cup over the heal or base that will engage the barrel's rifling.

Those who want some good accurate info on the KTW's below is a link to a thread from the Int'l Ammunition Association's archives. Some of the photos posted on the thread are long gone but there's still some interesting photos, and at comment #53 there's a photo of a pulled 9mm bullet that clearly shows the brass cupped bullet base.

KTW 9 x 19 mm green Teflon - General Ammunition Collector Discussion - International Ammunition Association Web Forum