Looking for stories/experiences with using Aguila .22LR ammo especially with M&P .22LR full sized pistol... anyone?

I have had trouble deciding what to shoot since my "frist choice" ammo from Remington seems to be giving me lots of misfires, misfeeds and other issues. If I'm going to change rounds, then I figure I may as well start with the least expensive, non-match grade ammo and in my local stores that seems to be Aguila's offerings.

I appreciate any info on using this ammo ...

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I have 2 or 3 types of Aguila 22 rimfire ammo that I use occasionally with no complaints.

I also have several shooting buddies who run lots of Aguila in their 22 race guns with good results. Much better than some of the junk Winchester and Remington put out.

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Bob.
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Its runs good through everything here.......But....It won't feed through my 50 rd. Blackdog magazine.....I even use it in my 41.....They do have an unpleasant aroma after firing.

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Aguilla standard velocity works well in my Target old model High Standard semi-auto.
Karl

I guess I'll give it a try then.
@ $4.99/50 rounds @Academy Sports it's not that big a gamble I guess.

That's still 1 1/4 times what I paid for the Remington rounds that are giving me so many problems.. but if the Aguila work, well.. I guess it'll be money well spent.

Thanks guys.

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I've had no problem with Aguila .22lr. To date the only .22lr round I have found to be unacceptable is the Remington Thunderbolt. I am done with that one.

I have shot a small amount, mostly subsonic. No complaints.

I've been using Aguila SV .22LR in my Walther GSP Expert for several years in Bullseye competition. I initially gave it a try because I could get a case delivered from CMP for only $180 (the good old days - gone forever), but I also did some careful testing to ensure it would be as reliable and accurate as the CCI SV I'd always used previously. It passed both criteria easily, and I've had no issues with it in tens of thousands of rounds fired since.

Fires well in 3 pistols. Have also fired it in 4 revolvers and 2 rifles and I'm happy with it.

Go it out of desperation in the "ammo shortage" and am very pleased with it. Have a "bit" of it on hand now. I will buy it even though most other .22 ammo is now available.

FWIW one of the pistols it shoots well out of is my wife's new Victory. Close to 3 bricks shot in 5 weeks, no jams and accuracy is decent.

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Have used 200 rounds of Aguilla super extra high velocity in my M&P 22 full size with perfect results. Also, it seems to be a clean firing 22 ammo which makes for easy gun cleaning. Accuracy seems average. Paid $49 for a package of 500.

I have used standard and high velocity with very few issues.
My S&W M&P 22 full size shoots most ammo very well, that includes standard velocity.
When I did start having issues I found that a new firing pin spring and pin helped. Also flushing out the firing pin block with Gun Scrubber or other such product. is helpful.
For me, Rem. Golden bullets is my 2nd choice after CCI.

I guess I'll be off to buy some Aguila tomorrow...and then to the range to test it.
Now let me go steal $10 from my grandkids' piggie banks to pay for it....

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USPSA A_97882

I bought 4 boxes of Aguila SV .22LR several weeks ago ($3.99/box at Academy). No problems with its reliability, but I was using a rifle, not a handgun. The grouping performance at 50 yards was somewhat disappointing.

Aguila ammo is generally good, clean shooting and accurate. I've used the standard velocity and Super Extra in revolvers and semi-auto pistols with good results. The Super Extra really packs a punch for .22LR.

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My family has gone through a couple thousand Aquila .22LR rounds with no issues of any kind. We are using Ruger 10-22 Rifles & Walther .22LR Handguns.

The experience I have with it is better than with Remington.BTW,anyone knows what's going on with Remington ammo?Used to be a solid name and now.................?!!?

I've used about 100 rounds of it in my Model 617. I believe it was .22lr 40 gr. CPRN, I liked it and it was much cleaner than the big boxes of cheap Federal 40 gr, LRN bulk ammo I obsessively compulsively ran thru the gun before I knew any better. In comparison, CCI Standard Velocity was absolutely the cleanest stuff I've shot so far and would probably be my first choice in .22lr, followed closely by the Aguila 40 gr CPRN. I have a 1000 rounds of another brand's CPHP to try out next, so we'll see what kind of mess that leaves. My biggest complaint right now is the build up of lead residue in the 617 after a busy range session and I've promised myself I will only shoot the Federal again if there is nothing else available. So...yes...I would buy and use Aguila with no hesitation.

Thumbs up on the Aquila 22LR. Tried the High Velocity and Standard in a number of handguns and rifles with no problem. Accurate too.

The American Rifleman March 2016 magazine has a nice article on Aguila ammo; rim fire, center fire and shotgun. Of the 400 rds of .22 ammo the author fired there were only two malfunctions.

Heres a youTube review

Nice vid. First time I've seen him.

Yeah...I like his Channel. Very dry, subtle sense of humor, and the man can shoot, as well as throw a rock.

NO complaints on this end with the Agulia

I've found the Super Extra SV & HV to be a definite step up from the usual suspects at Walmart.

It's good stuff. I'm finding it around $.10-ish a round delivered.

I tried the Aguila Super Extra in a SR22 and it doesn't feed reliably. It goes bang when it does feed. Winchester X22LR feeds good in the SR22. I'll shoot the Aguila in a revolver. Larry

Tried some and for $3.00 it out shot Federal's high ticket target stuff.

I shoot short sub sonics in my 34 snub. I do this in my closed garage with no complaints from the neighbors. Can hit the sticky note most of the time. I use a 1/8 alumnium 4x4 back stop against my roll around tool chest. The back house wall is brick so no chance of the round getting outa my garage..

Good ammo. Just don't get caught with it in the country where its made. I have somewhat of an attitude about that.

Picking up some Aguila from Academy Sports today.. will probably shoot it tomorrow or Thursday.

Cheaper than the CCI and Federal Match Gold Medal I just shot yesterday. Yeah, I'm a penny=pinching ba***rd.

But if it goes downrange fubbing up the works consistently, I'll be ahead of where I am with the Remington's I've been shooting.

Thanks for all the comments and recommendations.

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I have shot some of it, and find that it's no worse than most of the junk .22 we get these days. The only advantage to me was that it was cheaper, and apparently that's no longer the case. I can find CCI for the same money, so,that's what I do now.

Can't speak to current production but 10 years ago, Aguila Subsonic ( in the Purple box) was one of the most used ammo in our regional Gallery (bullseye) league. It was reported to be made in Mexico on Eley equipment and using Eley primers back then. Irregardless , as long as your gun would run it, it was by far the best bang for your buck in target grade ammo. It was somewhat funny actually, as you'd see lines of top ranked shooters running $1500 European target pistols with (then) $13 /brick ammo. I remember placing one order for 30,000 rounds of the stuff. It was that good.
I don't shoot competitively anymore but still hoard treasured bricks of the stuff to feed my Pardini SP.

All that said, the two gripes many had was:
1) Aguila (all flavors) had a waxy coating that would gum up your action quicker if not wiped off prior to mag loading.
2) The subsonic in particular had the best reputation for accuracy but , due to its lower power, would not run reliably in some of the US made Ruger and S&W target pistols without mods..

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Dave

I've shot quite a lot of Aguila in SV, HV, Match Pistol and Match Rifle loadings. They all work well for me, but they do smell "funny."

Well, I shot 100 rounds each of Aguila Super Extra Standard and High Velocity today at an indoor range. Worked like a charm when I did what I was supposed to.

I think I'll be shooting more of this as they're the least expensive rounds I can buy locally and seem to always be in stock at one Academy Sports store or another.

Thanks for all your comments on the Aguila's.

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i just ordered a case of aguila sv.
i couldn't resist because it was the same price as i pay for federal bulk.
in my opinion, it's a step up from bulk.
not for serious work tho.
i'm working on point shooting at under 10 yards, n it's as good as anything else at that range.

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susie

I finally tried some Aguila SuperExtra copper plated in my M&P22 at the range yesterday. I had no malfunctions out of 50 rounds fired. It seems to work as well as the CCI MiniMags, which I like a lot.

I can tell you though, that my pistol does NOT like Federal AutoMatch or Federal Champion. Lots of malfunctions with that stuff. I'll have to save the Federal for use with my Ruger 10/22.

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Well, I've now shot 400 rounds of Aguila. My M&P 22LR seems to like Super Extra Standard Velocity AND High Velocity just fine. Only 1 stovepipe (first round after a magazine change), no other issues.

It just amazes me the amount of times this subject has come up --- not Aguila in particular, but "what ammo will Brand X handgun shoot without problems?" Aguila seems to be fairly consistently mentioned as "being shootable" for most people but then someone (like me with Remington ammo) has an issue... It'ss ALL OVER THE 'NET.. post after post, thread after thread (now you tell me!?!? that I have since found since my initial post).

I was an ignorant dumba** and didn't know it was a "generic Truth" that 22LR pistols and ammo are a world of their own and some pistol and ammo combinations just don't go together. I shoulda just searched the Net more and tested on my own. I also shouldn't have assumed that cheap/inexpensive Aguila ammo was garbage or that more expensive was more "shootable".

So, I guess I'm now out of my own thread.

Thanks for the responses.

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I haven't used any Aguila in several years, but shot a good bit of it in rifles and handguns at one time. As I recall, it seems standard velocity was the most accurate; I think it had an unplated bullet.

As with other ammos, particularly non-match grade, accuracy can vary noticeably from lot-to-lot. CCI standard velocity may be the most consistent of these, but Aguila is probably not too far behind.

I experienced several cartridges that would not fire in the last batch of Aguila standard velocity I bought. Never had this happen previously or heard other such complaints, so I'll assume the problem was restricted to that lot. For the money, Aguila may still be a good buy.

The "unpleasant aroma" is the Eley Priming that Aguila uses (=GOOD).
I have used the cr@p out of Aguila and the ammo is good solid ammo. Now, whether or not any particular .22LR weapon "LIKES" any particular .22LR brand or individual round within that brand is a whole different story LOL.

I've used it in S&W revolvers, no issues.
Also in my Beretta Neos, Hammerli and the S&W M&P15-22P (pistol) with no issues. The S&W owner's manual says to use only high speed stuff, and I have had no issues with any such ammo, including a lot of Aguila.
EXCEPT, my Walther P22. It hardly likes anything, and I had F2F, F2E and F2Eject with almost anything that wasn't hi-velocity.

I shoot a good bit of Aguila .22lr, particularly if I want to keep my CCIs back for a rainy day. It's clean and reliable ammo, and from what I've read it comes from a clean factory. Since they do not print velocities on their boxes and packaging of .22, here goes:

Super Extra HV Copper Plated RN (40gr)................1255 fps
Super Extra SV Lead Solid Point (40gr).................1130 fps
Subsonic Lead Solid Point (40gr)...........................1025 fps
Super Extra .22 Short Copper Plated RN (29gr)........1095 fps
Target Competition SV Lead Solid Point (40gr).........1080 fps
Pistol Match Competition SV Lead Solid Point (40gr)...925 fps
Rifle Match Competition SV Lead Solid Point (40gr)...1080 fps

Besides a handful of specialty rounds (hypervelocity, primer powered peashooter rounds, etc.) Aguila has a 38gr HV copper plated hollow point but the velocity is unknown to me.

thanks tons, ptar. i needed that.
looks like i screwed up. i bot a case of super extra sv but your numbers say they are really not sv.
that sucks because i only get great groups with sv which is around 1080fps.
everything else is plinking ammo.

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susie

Susie, their standard velocity is slightly hotter than the typical American SV (1050 to 1080). However, if you are shooting it out of a handgun, it will never reach the 1130 fps. In some rifles it will never reach the 1130 fps. Although technically 1130 fps is slightly supersonic, depending on temp and location, it may not make any difference for your application. It's only an extra 50 fps.

do you think the supersonic part is what's important?
i shoot bulls eye n only get good results with real sv.
but from a pistol, 5 1/2'' barrel,, i'm not sure if even hv rounds are supersonic.

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susie

Bear in mind, .22s are finicky. Even different examples of the same model can have different preferences.

Aguila SuperExtra is indeed a quality ammunition for target work. Used it exclusively for several seasons in my Ruger Mk III and then some more in my Nelson Custom for practice. It is indeed subsonic, with no more felt recoil than comparable target ammo.

I would consider the reliability to be on-par with CCI Standard. I don't think I ever had one misfire with a solid primer strike--and that's saying something, as I go through at least 1800 rounds a year. Similar record with malfunctions--plenty of 600-round seasons without a single failure. Accuracy isn't noticeably better or worse.

I would not use any Remington or Winchester ammunition, myself.

I still prefer CCI Standard Velocity, but if all I had to shoot was Aguila SuperExtra, I wouldn't get bent out of shape.

During the ammo shortage of 3 years or so ago, it was not uncommon to travel 20 miles to stand in line and have a fellow stick 50 loose rounds of Winchester bulk in a plastic baggie and sell out at $8.00 to $9.00 a bag!!

Anyway...during this time period I came on some Aguila during a local show at $45.00 a brick, bought as many as I could (I think 5 was all he had).

My 1986 slab side Buckmark would simply not eat any Winchester at all...at least one misfire, or stove pipe with every mag, Remington was actually worse....got so bad I thought the gun needed a complete overhaul. Daughter had a brand new Ruger Mark III and it also acted up with Win and Rem.

Tried the Aguila and..........not a misfire in 3 bricks over the last few years shooting sessions (spinners, paper, Gel balls).

What's left of the Win and Rem goes only through Ruger Super Six, or my other wheel guns, and it does go bang, but that's it.

Still like CCI Mini the best, but it is still top price around here.

I would buy Aguila again when stocking needs dictate.

well, i bot a case of this stuff before i rea here that it's really not SV.
so i decided to find out what i had.

AGUILA RANGE REPORT
day 1, accuracy
using my bulls eye gun, at 25 yards i got groups of around 2 1/2''
compare to:
wolf- 1'' all other SVs- under 2''
federal bulk-3''
so, good for plinking ammo
day2, function
using a single 10, i had terrible results
first, it's dirtier than federal bulk, which is dirty
worse, i got 30% FTF.
that caused me to do another test, because i do get boxes of fed bulk that have up to 15% FTF
day 3
i picked 2 random bricks to test
brick 1 had 30%FTF
brick 2 had 10%
CONCLUSION
i got screwed. i paid more for these than federal, because it said SV.
the fact is, this is a poor grade of plinking ammo.

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susie

During the shortage I traded a box of .380 ACP for some, and when I went to the range I was less than impressed... Sorry.

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I'm somewhat surprised to see this thread still alive. Quick update of my own experiences since I "left" the thread.

With my S&W M&P .22LR Fullsize, I've shot 4 different types of Aquila now, 300-1500 rounds each of SE/SV, SE/HV, Target Competition and Pistol Match. My misfire, FTF(eed), FTE(ject) and stovepipe malfunction rates are well under 1% with all of these; I might get 1 per 2 or 300 rounds. They've proven to be the most reliable of all the ammo types I have shot since I purchased the pistol early this summer.

Accuracy-wise, they're definitely able to out-shoot my current capability. The only times my groups at 20' are larger than 1.5" is when I screw up, jerk the trigger or blink. I'm still working on being accurate at 30' - but, again, it seems to be my technique, not the ammo.

I won't hesitate to buy Aquila again... reliable, inexpensive and seems cleaner than the other ammo I'm able to get through the local stores.

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I have to say that my newest Aguila is circa 2008. I tend to buy a couple of 50rd boxes & then go for a full 5000rd case. I have experienced good results out of my 41 with the Bully Barrel especially with the 60gr SSS which the Bully with its 1:9 twist rate shoots beautifully (dime size groups at 20yds). I also have good luck with the Aguila SV & Subs out of various other RF weapons that I own.
However, it's very possible that the QC has changed in the interim years since I bought all my Aguila.
For defense in a RF revolver (I wouldn't use a RF Pistol for defense), I like their 40gr hypervelocity HP round (yeah I know, .22 for defense, right).

I have never yet had an FTF with Aguila SV. Ever. And that's shooting rounds out of at least a half dozen different bricks. I buy most of it from Academy. My shooting buddies and I like it and out of my Savage Mark II it is highly accurate.

You may not have had luck with it for some unknown reason, but it is not poor ammo. Did you get a bad batch? Possibly, but that is the outlier if you did. I just put two boxes through my S&W M&P .22 Compact today. It performs well in both my Savages, my Compact and my S&W Victory.

Sorry you didn't have good luck with it, but I stand by my earlier posts that Aguila is right up there as good ammo, and in my opinion and experiences, it is light years better than almost all Winchester and Remington .22 ammo.