hey folks, no trimming of 45acp brass, the gap is a higher pressure round, and has a thicker case.
.45 GAP
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BruceM
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Then there's that too!
Bruce
.45 Gap is 50¢ to $1.50 per round with 13 different loadings. Good luck finding your fired brass.
.45 ACP is 29¢ to $1.50 per round with a 115 different loadings.
This information was taken from MidwayUSA because what they list is usually available for immediate shipment. The indoor range I reload at has multiple 5 gallon buckets of 45 ACP brass. 45 GAP brass is thrown in the recycle bin because no one wants the brass for reloading.
.45 ACP is 29¢ to $1.50 per round with a 115 different loadings.
This information was taken from MidwayUSA because what they list is usually available for immediate shipment. The indoor range I reload at has multiple 5 gallon buckets of 45 ACP brass. 45 GAP brass is thrown in the recycle bin because no one wants the brass for reloading.
DWalt
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Apparently so, but mainly because the .45 GAP case uses a SP primer:
"It is unsafe to cut off .45 Auto cases to make .45 GAP cases. The most significant issue is the difference in primer size. A Large Pistol primer that fits the .45 Auto case will over-ignite safe powder charges developed in proper GAP cases with small primers, and high pressure will result. The .45 GAP case has a much different internal taper, so cutoff .45 Auto cases will bulge when bullets are seated to recommended lengths."
Boox
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I love GAP bashers but do wish that they actually knew about the round. I just traded a G 37 for a G 38, mostly because I wanted a smaller frame for carry. I was happy to find that I could put my crimson trace from my G 23 on it.
I will agree that the ammo for it is not as widely available, but with my old 45 acp die set I could reload for it and I already had 45acp on the shelf for my Sig, and it uses the same bullets so my ammo costs are comparable.
Why the 45 GAP, one reason is I shoot it better than any 1911 or 4506 I've owned. Ergonomics I guess. The recoil, while snappier than the 1911 0r 4506, is more like my 3913 and softer, to me than my .40 G 23.
I'm at the range almost weekly with my GAP and let anyone who wants to fire it. NO ONE has yet to say they didn't like it and 2 guys went and bought one afterwards. That was the full size they shot, only 2 guys have had a go with the G 38.
I even saw 4 boxes at WallyWorld the other day, I know they must have misordered it. Both of my LGS stock it, so I know I'm not the only guy around shooting it, again I reload for it.
So, while it my not be everyone's cup of tea, It's a good round, has more power per cartridge than standard 45 ACP, fits a smaller frame, and like the 41 magnum, will be around for a long time.
Go out and shoot 50 rounds with one, you might like it.
I will agree that the ammo for it is not as widely available, but with my old 45 acp die set I could reload for it and I already had 45acp on the shelf for my Sig, and it uses the same bullets so my ammo costs are comparable.
Why the 45 GAP, one reason is I shoot it better than any 1911 or 4506 I've owned. Ergonomics I guess. The recoil, while snappier than the 1911 0r 4506, is more like my 3913 and softer, to me than my .40 G 23.
I'm at the range almost weekly with my GAP and let anyone who wants to fire it. NO ONE has yet to say they didn't like it and 2 guys went and bought one afterwards. That was the full size they shot, only 2 guys have had a go with the G 38.
I even saw 4 boxes at WallyWorld the other day, I know they must have misordered it. Both of my LGS stock it, so I know I'm not the only guy around shooting it, again I reload for it.
So, while it my not be everyone's cup of tea, It's a good round, has more power per cartridge than standard 45 ACP, fits a smaller frame, and like the 41 magnum, will be around for a long time.
Go out and shoot 50 rounds with one, you might like it.
gwpercle
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If you are a reloader you will have few ammo availability problems, same bullets , acp cases can be trimmed to gap length.
But if you will depend solely on ammo that's carried on a dealers shelf, I would go 45 acp.....my hunch is the 45 gap will fade away , become special run item , and expensive when you can find it.
Gary
But if you will depend solely on ammo that's carried on a dealers shelf, I would go 45 acp.....my hunch is the 45 gap will fade away , become special run item , and expensive when you can find it.
Gary
Florida HP carries the Gap and is satisfied with its real world performance. If anything causes them to change calibers, it will be cost and availability of the Gap ammo, or standard lifetime firearm replacement.
Starline makes the .45 GAP brass. If you reload for .45 ACP it is a snap to load the GAP. A quick search with AmmoSeek showed loaded ammo at $14/50, sounds good to me!
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akguy1985
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I've had both a G37 and a G38. The .45GAP round interested me. I sold both of them off, I lost a sale off armslist due to the G37 being a GAP. The guy thought it was an ACP. Georgia arms sells the ammo fairly cheap. I think the FHP still carries the G37 in .45 GAP because glock almost gave them the guns for free.
Right now 1k of 45GAP at georgia arms is $360
Right now 1k of 45GAP at georgia arms is $360
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DWalt
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I have no desire to own a .45 GAP pistol, but if I ran across one at a giveaway price I would probably buy it. And promptly order a supply of .45 GAP brass because I doubt the longevity of ammunition availability.
I have a story from about 10 years ago about the .45 GAP, but it's too long to get into here. Maybe another time.
I have a story from about 10 years ago about the .45 GAP, but it's too long to get into here. Maybe another time.
okiegtrider
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HeavyDuty Ken
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Isn't that pretty much already the case?
It's still in production, isn't it?
Arik
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Know lots about the round. Works if you NEED a 45cal, 9mm size GLOCK. Otherwise there's a million other choices for 45acp. Like the Shield for instance.
I never shot one. I'd probably like it but impractical so no point in spending money on it ......for me
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ldausmc1369
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Love the G37. Very accurate. Low recoil. Very contollable. Super easy to reload. Long as you can find brass, finding bullets and powder are the same as .45 ACP with maybe a little better ballastics.
KarmannGhia
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I remember Springfield made a 1911 in 45 GAP (scaled down for the shorter round. I don't know if they still make it. I've never fired a GAP, and don't really care if I ever do. I don't wish any hate on the GAP round, it's just that I have enough different calibers to deal with and don't need to add another on my plate.
TomkinsSP
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.45 GAP will be considered a legit round when and if a REAL (as in revolving cylinder type) handgun is manufacrured to fire it.
If the ballistic neighborhood appeals there are always ,44 specials out there.
If the ballistic neighborhood appeals there are always ,44 specials out there.
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Lee's Landing Billy
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And it ain't either one. Should be called the NOT 357 Sig Auto.
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