Glory be- Winchester must have completed a production run of .357 Magnum Silvertips. Check AmmoSeek- seems like every dealer is offering it for sale now but it isn't cheap- lowest price I saw was $42.00 a box of 50, plus shipping. Load up on it while you can.
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Winchester .357 Magnum Silvertip 145 grains
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Texas Star
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A good, very lethal load.
A detective whom I got to check morgue results said it performed VERY well in police and FBI shootings.
The velocity is about 1200 FPS from a three-inch barrel and over 1300 FPS from a four-inch. That's from real revolvers, not pressure barrels.
A detective whom I got to check morgue results said it performed VERY well in police and FBI shootings.
The velocity is about 1200 FPS from a three-inch barrel and over 1300 FPS from a four-inch. That's from real revolvers, not pressure barrels.
Not Getting Any Younger
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Two weeks ago I took several boxes of 20+ year old ammo to the range including a box of .357 Silvertips (145 gr.) and fired them thru a 16" Model 94. No failures or issues. GREAT FUN!!!
(I might need to resupply with new!
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(I might need to resupply with new!
)Spokes
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Thanks for that information Mike. I did not realize Winchester still made that load...Always carried them in my belt loops when I carried a revolver on duty..
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Skeptic 9c
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Very old design, but it was my bowling pin round back in the 1980s.
Geoff
Who wouldn't carry it today, but I wouldn't feel disarmed if I did.
Geoff
Who wouldn't carry it today, but I wouldn't feel disarmed if I did.
Yes that is a periodic production round for Winny. I emailed them about it a year or so back and they mentioned it was a periodical.
Good stuff. I have a vintage 1990s box of it with the styrofoam at the bottom. Still shiny. Potent loads for sure and for certain.
Good stuff. I have a vintage 1990s box of it with the styrofoam at the bottom. Still shiny. Potent loads for sure and for certain.
jimmyj
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In the 1990 era this was issue ammo for the agency I was with
typetwelve
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I'd love to get my hands on some...but there is no way I'm spending that much on their stuff. Pushing $1/rd or more for many of their offerings is just too much in my opinion.
I will say that at the moment, SGA does have some really solid .38 +P Win Ranger ammo for a VERY affordable price.
I will say that at the moment, SGA does have some really solid .38 +P Win Ranger ammo for a VERY affordable price.
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The entire time I had a .357 Magnum revolver I could never find STHP. It was the one type of ammo I wanted to try but couldn't. In the 5 years or so since I sold my .357 I've seen STHP available for sale twice.
Typical.
*sigh*
Typical.
*sigh*
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I have most of a couple of boxes of the 145 ST along with some other Winchester .357 magnum ammo. All of it is at least ten years old. It's hard to imagine any .357 ammo being ineffective, particularly something like a 158 jacketed soft point or hollow point.
Seems that shooting the most accurate ammunition (and maybe that is the 145 ST) would be the best way to go. If not the best from an accuracy standpoint, anyone have first hand knowledge of the advantage of the 145 ST over comparable .357 ammo?
Seems that shooting the most accurate ammunition (and maybe that is the 145 ST) would be the best way to go. If not the best from an accuracy standpoint, anyone have first hand knowledge of the advantage of the 145 ST over comparable .357 ammo?
I think I have some .357 Black Talon somewhere that I saved just because and I KNOW that I have an unopened box of .308 Black Talon - so I understand saving the good ammunition!!!
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No first hand experience (see my post above
), but from what I've read it established a very impressive reputation as a fight stopper, but without the concerns of running full-power 125gr JHP loads through a K-frame (I had a 3" 65).
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I'm down to less than a box, but I can usually find some at gun shows for that price.
Not that I shoot alot of them, but when I have my 60-15 around town, that's what's in her...
Not that I shoot alot of them, but when I have my 60-15 around town, that's what's in her...
sigp220.45
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Thanks! I just bit the bullet and ordered a box for my snubby 19-3.
This was the Bureau’s issued magnum round at the end of the .357 era. You could carry it your speedloaders but were supposed to have the +P+ stuff in the gun unless you had specific permission from the ASAC to load with it. I was way the hell out in Indian Country and just loaded with it anyway.
I think it perfectly splits the difference between the 125s I’m leery of using in my K-frame and the 158s that I’m not sure will open up. I know one guy who shot a dude with it, and I’ve read the shooting reports of several others. I’m fine with it.
I suspect it will also kill werewolves, which is a plus.
This was the Bureau’s issued magnum round at the end of the .357 era. You could carry it your speedloaders but were supposed to have the +P+ stuff in the gun unless you had specific permission from the ASAC to load with it. I was way the hell out in Indian Country and just loaded with it anyway.
I think it perfectly splits the difference between the 125s I’m leery of using in my K-frame and the 158s that I’m not sure will open up. I know one guy who shot a dude with it, and I’ve read the shooting reports of several others. I’m fine with it.
I suspect it will also kill werewolves, which is a plus.
medic15al
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When I got my Model 19-4 just recently that was the ammo I ordered first thing for it.
Back when I was a rookie paramedic and a newlywed I moon lit on my 48hrs off after a 24 hr shift and this was the most accurate load out of my Taurus M-66 (M19 copy) and later my Model 19 (unknown dash #). Shot many thousands of this round over the years in various K and L frames and was always the most consistent and usually the most accurate round I've tried.
Back when I was a rookie paramedic and a newlywed I moon lit on my 48hrs off after a 24 hr shift and this was the most accurate load out of my Taurus M-66 (M19 copy) and later my Model 19 (unknown dash #). Shot many thousands of this round over the years in various K and L frames and was always the most consistent and usually the most accurate round I've tried.
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Mehutch
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Winchester SILVERTIPS 145gr... one of my best 357 Mag shooters. I still have 9 factory boxes and about 1200 self loaded rounds: Powder - W296 @ 17.5gr - 1540 fps (New Starline Brass) - Some Like it Hot!
also in 44 Mag- Winchester 210gr Silver Tips, Powder – Accurate #5 @ 15gr (1325 fps W-W New Brass)
Love the stuff. Load-shoot-repeat.
also in 44 Mag- Winchester 210gr Silver Tips, Powder – Accurate #5 @ 15gr (1325 fps W-W New Brass)
Love the stuff. Load-shoot-repeat.
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Sixgun100
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Same here. My department only issued WW Silvertips whether 9mm, .38 Special or .357 Magnum. Felt well armed with my Model 66 loaded with the 145 grain Silvertips and four speedloaders!
ArchAngelCD
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That 145gr Silvertip .357 Magnum load is scary accurate in my M640 and all I will feed it.
Winchester does a run about every two years and they have need available for about 5 weeks now. They usually cost $49.99/50 but seem to be on sale the coast few days for $44.99/50.
Winchester does a run about every two years and they have need available for about 5 weeks now. They usually cost $49.99/50 but seem to be on sale the coast few days for $44.99/50.
