I went to Cabela’s today to by some 9mm ammo. My intention was to get WWB 500 round pack. It’s $99.99 and I had a 10% off coupon plus my military discount. Well they were all out of wwb in the 500 round pack but they did have Herters 500 rd pack for 99.99, or $9.99 per box. Having a discussion with the ammo guy at Cabela’s I find out Herters in no longer made by Sellior and Beloit but is now made by Winchester here in The USA. The rounds look the same but are boxed in all new designed boxes. Has anyone else heard this ? I have been unable to verify it looking online.