Can someone please tell me why this is ammunition is marked "training use only"? Seems to me it would work nicely as defensive ammunition but I'm obviously missing some vital piece of information.
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Winchester training ammunition
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They are originally government contract for Homeland Security, thus the purple boxes and purple brass cases. The contract was for “Readily Identifiable Training Ammunition”. Also made in .223 and .40S&W. I have some of the .223. Accurate, and I wouldn't hesitate to load it up for SD.
Can someone please tell me why this is ammunition is marked "training use only"? Seems to me it would work nicely as defensive ammunition but I'm obviously missing some vital piece of information.
My thought, for all that is worth is the 9MM shown is Full Metal Jacket, and most serious ammo is a expanding type!
The bullet looks like the one in the 115gr M1152 that the military is buying for the Sig duty pistols. I have a few boxes of the 1152's, and the flat point cuts nice round holes in the target. My Sig 365XL likes it, as does my SCCY and my 6906. Wouldn't use it every day, big recoil and flash, but I trust it. The Training is probably not nearly as hot, but if it's available, the flat point 115's should cut similar holes.
I want some purple brass.
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Bullet type would be the first consideration, we all "want" HP for self-defense in a perfect world.
Military use is FMJ, not HP. FMJ will most certainly cause the target grave injury and discomfort. In a pinch, I'd absolutely not hesitate to use it.
I'd want to make sure my handgun feeds the flat tips, before investing in a lot. I know that sounds trivial, "most" guns do... but I've got a few .32 acp pistols. They choke on Winchester flat tip, run smoothly with ball.
My second question would be chrono speed; lots of training stuff tends to be softer than 'duty' rounds. I can tell the recoil difference between, say, Blazer Brass and some Turkish 9mm. The Turkish stuff (Yavex) is HOT, the Blazer is mild. I think the Turkish stuff is what they issue, and they don't have different grades to train with etc. I would guess a lot of the European (S&B, Fiocchi, PPU etc) are that way, while here in the US we seem to have soft for training, and hot for issue.
