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"Buying cheap and stacking deep?"
Already did before the pandemic and this other craziness!!
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Both of us have done that since forever. Just a quick check to the gun stores and other even if we don't find something expensive like a firearm give them some business and bucks and buy a few boxes sometimes more or a case of whatever strikes our fancy to help the local establishment.
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I haven't seen the cheap ammo yet. I've seen some prices that are less ridiculous than a year ago, but nothing I would describe as inexpensive.
Still stacking my home-rolled handloads pretty deep, but running low on pre-panic primers and powders. Hopefully there will be a bit of sanity restored before I run out completely.
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…running low on pre-panic primers and powders. Hopefully there will be a bit of sanity restored before I run out completely.
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Agreed! I have not seen a decent price on LR and LRM primers in years. I’m not buying no new whiz-bang nothin’ until I can load for what I already have. I am not particularly interested in using factory-loaded ammunition in my centerfire rifles. Primers are the key, for me.
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I bought some 124 gr. S&B 9MM for $239.80. $60. a case more than I wanted to pay but I had rather have the ammo than the money. Also $60. is not as much money now as it was when I made $50. a week. Larry
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I have not bought any factory ammo at a gunshop/box store in quite a while. I buy from estates and the last I bought was 10MM and bought them for $7.00 a box and got 20 boxes of 50.
When I pick up reloading supplies I do the same at estates. A friend and I will make an offer on the entire set up, equipment and components. Makes the sellers happy as they get some money and also get rid of the items with no real work on their part.
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I’m buying reloading components cheap whenever I can. On Friday I found this on Florida Gun Trader and bought it:
8 lb. HP-38
5 lb. Bluedot
4 lb. Bullseye
2 lb. Power Pistol
1K SPP
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500 new Starline 10mm cases
3K FMJ 180 .40/10mm projectiles
20 lb. .45ACP once fired cases
25 lb. 9mm once fired cases
I think I’m set for awhile
Deals are out there, but you have to look for them.
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"Federal Champion ammunition is designed specifically for target shooting, training and practice."
MPN WM51991
UPC 029465063238
Manufacturer Federal Ammo
Caliber 9mm Luger Ammo
Bullet Type Full Metal Jacket
Muzzle Velocity 1180 fps
Muzzle Energy 356 ft. lbs
Primer Boxer
Casing Brass Casing
Ammo Rating Target & Practice 9mm Luger Ammo
I've shot half a dozen cases of this ammo in many different 9mm's. Exactly 1 malfunction, a primer crushed in sideways failed to ignite. Joe
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You have quoted the spec for Federal American Eagle. Champion is loaded at 1125 not 1180 from a four inch barrel. Maybe your ammo supplier is confused, cannot cut and paste from the Federal website properly, or is playing bait and switch.
From Federal's website:
Buy American Eagle Handgun for USD 24.99 | Federal Ammunition
Buy Champion Training for USD 23.99 | Federal Ammunition
I am VERY leery of a lot of range/target ammo as I've had issues with CZs, milsurp Stars, and even a Steyr GB not cycling or barely cycling properly with it. I would like to call it operator error as the nut behind the trigger (me) has skinny wrists, but when the exact same thing happens with your shooting buddy known for his death grip on all semis...
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I spent the bulk of mine on booze and women , , , the rest I just wasted.
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I have more of everything I will likely use in my life time. Didn't really need any more powder but before the pandemic I lucked into an 8lb jug of 700X for just over $100 so I bought it any way.
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How much I have is irreverent. I wish I had bought more 10 or 20 years ago. I feel like now is the good old days and time to stock up. Diesel is going up, taxes are going up, the cost of raw materials is going up. I seriously doubt that ammo will be cheaper than it is today. I am buying and expect to look back in two years and smile.
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How much I have is irreverent. I wish I had bought more 10 or 20 years ago. I feel like now is the good old days and time to stock up.... I am buying and expect to look back in two years and smile.
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I bought a total of 19,000 rds 9mm in 2004 for an average $.08/rd. That was gone 10 years later. I bought 6,000 rds in 2008 for $.11/rd. That was gone 10 years later. I bought 5,000 rds in 2012 for $.13/rd in 2012, that was gone 5 years later. I bought 5,000 rds in 2017-19 for $.17/ rd, working on that now. Buying now at $.24/rd, marking mo/yr on 'em so as to use oldest 1st. There's a pattern somewhere in this. I do sell 25% of my stash during "panics" to recoup my costs somewhat and to allow "one extra box on hand" friends opportunity to shoot. Joe
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In a word yes. I reload and am fairly well fixed for components but would buy select more when available.
I am buying 22. I did not really need any but finding it at 6 cents a pop I am buying and stacking. At age 70 I would rather the estate sale be impressive in terms of ammo than to run out of 22.
This election cycle coming is giving me bad feelings about a lot of things and ammo is one of them.
Buy now or cry later I think.
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Don't blame you guys! Have found the price of ammo ridiculous especially at shops like Bass Pro Shop. Wanted $18 for 22 mag per 50. Hard to believe $.59 back in 66 is now $5.59!! Won't get into the centerfire prices as am sure you already know.
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According to the BLS CPI Inflation calculator $0.59 in August of 1966 is now $5.54 so that's actually dead on!
When we think about prices we neglect to remember that the minimum wage was $1.25/hr. and $5.00 an hour in 1966 was a really good wage. The minimum wage today should be about $12 if one applies the same inflation calculation.
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I guess if you shoot a lot of 9mm that's great. Anything else, not so much.
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I guess if you shoot a lot of 9mm that's great. Anything else, not so much.
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Adapting to "conditions." For the last 3 years my shooting has been 50% .22lr, 40% 9mm, 10% .308, .223, .38/.357 mag, .44mag, .45acp, 12 ga. I have most of the equipment to reload but I get busy with other stuff. Joe
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Lately based on ammo supply and prices I’ve been migrating toward 9mm.
Have recently bought 2 - 9mm Pistolas.
A Glock 43x and a SIG 365 X Macro.
Really like the SIG! May buy another one.
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Aim surplus has standard velocity CCI 40 G RN lead for 3.39 per 50. Cheapest I have seen for awhile. I went ahead and added a couple of cases. I should never have to by 22 LR again in this lifetime. I have enough 9MM, 45 ACP, 357, 44 and 223/5.56 factory for now. I have enough components to load a bunch more when needed.
I have come to the conclusion that this is near the bottom of the market, so now I will be an opportunistic buyer.
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I've been stacking since 2008. I vowed to never get caught with my pants down again. Even then, I had components stacked. I'm just now going through primers that I bought in the 80s. I can probably stop buying them, at that rate, I'm good 'till I'm 100.
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I am about to jump onto the band wagon.
Winchester 200 115gr fmj at $56.99
Blazer (alum) 50 115 fmj at 13.99
both at .28 cent a round.
So very close to my moth ridden wallet !!
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The local farm store has bricks of 500 rounds of 22 LR HP for 19.99 but it is Armscor brand. I had some of it in the past with no real problems with it but nothing recently. Anyone have any reports on current Armscor? I did have some armscor 22 mag that essentially sucked some years back. But I've had some CCI SV in the last year that had a few issues by not firing...at least on first try...5 in my M-41 2 in my pre 18...for 4 cents it can be a good buy!
Edited...heck I'm going to have to try at least a couple bricks I guess.
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Just got done looking at their ads. They also have Blazer Brass 124 gr 9mm for 12.99. I am going to scarf 10 boxes. I don't shoot that much 9s but I'm at the point that I think we are seeing the bottom pricing on ammo right about now...except maybe Black Friday pricing or something...but there is 4% tax
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I am stocked with enough ammo and components to last past my expiration date, but today I got an email from my friendly neighborhood reloading supplier and it seems that Hornady is finally starting to ship 7mm PRC brass. Placed my order and will drive the hour or so to pick it up Thursday. An hour or so is what passes for the neighborhood around this little slice of heaven.
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If I didn't reload would be buying when prices drop. Never a bad idea if you can buy and still pay the bills too...
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FYI I am hearing rumblings on the net that events in the middle east have started ammo panic buying. Those on the fence may want to look soon. In this volatile world who knows what tomorrow will bring
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Im my regular SGAmmo bulk mail notice today Sam Gabbert said he expects manufacturers prices to go up, possibly soon. Said his normal weekend sales doubled over the weekend, all starting after war erupted in Israel.
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Some ammo prices are down a bit at retail stores. But I was shocked to see a box of 20, 30.06 listed @ $41.95!!!! Outrageous.
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The Fin Feather Fur stores (northern Ohio-6 stores) has Federal 10mm ammo AE10A 180gr FMJ 50rd boxes on sale for 19.99 (reg 37.99), no limit, sale ends Oct.28. I bought a case. It would cost that much to reload with the price of components.
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Primers may be going back to being unobtanium as the ammo plants quickly ramp up for producing lots of military ammo to replace what we have foolishly given away, and abandoned in Afghanistan.
This would affect all calibers including rimfire since the priority would be filling new military contracts.
I am going to load up on more rimfire this week.
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.22 LR is plentiful and reasonably priced compared to a few years ago . I have a lifetime supply stashed away .
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I got a "note" from my OEM supplier regarding Large Rifle primers. Seems that pistol primers are plentiful but LRP are slow to be delivered in quantity.Could be hunting rifle ammunition is eating up availability of primers, perhaps military using more. Not saying I know why. I'm pretty well stocked but never have too much.
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I saw a few threads on another forum that ammo suppliers said in light of recent events, ammo orders are going through the roof and prices will be rising accordingly.
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As of today I do not think...
That anyone is buying cheap and stacking deep.
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just scored 5k rounds of Aquila Super Extra .22LR for just under $250 delivered, so a wee bit under 5 cents a round. Should cycle beautifully in my Ruger pistols, and be just subsonic. $2.09/50
Flash Deal at Ammo Planet.
I have plenty of .22 already, but if push comes to shove, I'll get a .22LR AR upper. Now if I could just find a deal on .17 HMR.
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just scored 5k rounds of Aquila Super Extra .22LR for just under $250 delivered, so a wee bit under 5 cents a round. Should cycle beautifully in my Ruger pistols, and be just subsonic. $2.09/50
Flash Deal at Ammo Planet.
I have plenty of .22 already, but if push comes to shove, I'll get a .22LR AR upper. Now if I could just find a deal on .17 HMR.
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Aquila won't cycle in my MKII. Hope you have better luck then I did. I tried several brands and decided CCI SV was want it wanted. Like you, I bought a case for about that same price, but that was about 5 years ago. No CCI deals like that around anymore that I can find.
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.22 LR is still relatively cheap and it's hard to say you have enough. I have a LOT of HV .22 LR but I decided to grab some more SV while it is still reasonable. My experience with Aguila 40 gr SV is that is equal to CCI SV in accuracy and very consistent. So I bought half a case,2500 rds to my door for $163.50. That's $3.27 a box to my door rather than having to go out looking for ammo. That's worth something at my age. Aguila is not generally available at stores in this area and I will not buy Armscor. I think Aguila is subsonic, as is CCI so I like that also.
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Foundry Outdoors, found on Ammo seek. Cheap to buy, no sales tax added but with a very high FEDX shipping charge. So it really comes to the bottom line, what you actually pay. Best deal I found for Aguila SV .22 LR. Forgot to mention, shipped the next day after I bought it
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.22 LR is still relatively cheap and it's hard to say you have enough. I have a LOT of HV .22 LR but I decided to grab some more SV while it is still reasonable. My experience with Aguila 40 gr SV is that is equal to CCI SV in accuracy and very consistent. So I bought half a case,2500 rds to my door for $163.50. That's $3.27 a box to my door rather than having to go out looking for ammo. That's worth something at my age. Aguila is not generally available at stores in this area and I will not buy Armscor. I think Aguila is subsonic, as is CCI so I like that also.
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When I compete in less formal or lower level rimfire Bullseye pistol matches, about 50% CCI SV, 40+% Aguila super extra or SV, and the rest mixed, but at least one CCI mini mag in a Ruger Mark. I do fine with AutoMatch, as my pistol barrels are 5.5" or 4"
I can always smell the Eley priming compound on the line, even with the HEPA blowers running.
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I've been using SGAmmo when he has deals. Always free shipping with a $200 purchase.
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Like pasound I've been buying mostly from SGAmmo too. I guess I have enough 9mm and .22LR to last a lifetime, I'm a geezer.
But a lot of my .22 ammo is bulk for shortage purposes. I have probably enough of my standard practice load (CCI SV) to last but due to cost the high end match ammo is lacking. In .38 spl. I really like wadcutters. That too is hard to find and expensive. I have enough 132 gr. FMJ but it's not ideal.
So I still go in search of Eley Match and Fiocchi wadcutters. Otherwise I'm OK.
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10-14-2023, 12:17 PM
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Foundry Outdoors that I bought from was $18.30/500 in 50 rd boxes a few days ago when I bought my 2500 rds. Details, details create the bottom line. Taxes? Shipping costs? The bottom line is the charge to your card. Still listed today for the same price. Also show the 40 gr plated HV for the same price. Best deal that I've seen
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I always buy when it’s relatively good prices, almost regardless of need. As someone who was once on the short end of an ammo panic (2012), I promised to not do that again. I always tell my friends, in the short term there will be minor price rises and dips, but long term the price of ammo will always rise. And it damn near lasts forever w/ little care, why not always be stocking up?
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Where is this "cheap" you speak of?
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It is a "term of relativity." 20 years ago a box of 50 9mm 115 gr ball was $3.88/box. Relatively cheap (I'm using cheap as a synonym for "relatively affordable"). Actually it was "massively cheap" with a $6 figure Pharma Rep income. 8 years later $ 6 was cheap. 8 years later $8.50 was cheap. Today, $13/box 50 dropped on the porch is cheap. Since I retired, for some unexplainable reason, my ammo budget seems to allow a small purchase most every month. Did my banking this morning (for their own unexplainable reason SS been paying the Friday before the 3rd Wednesday, usual payday) and enough for a 500 rd "half case" magically appeared. That never seemed to happen when I was working. Should be here by the end of the week. Joe
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Was looking at Scheel's ads and they had some primers...only allow 1brick of each so I bought 4000 2 small pistol 2 small rifle just shy of 60 dollars per.... pick up tomorrow. LR all gone LP too..
That was 1 brick of each brand
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