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Old 11-26-2023, 11:47 PM
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Oh, let's go for Siamese 8mm Mauser rifle ammo to really muddy the waters.
How about the 8mm Kropatschek? I sold one of those rifles plus several hundred rounds of ammo a couple of months ago.
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The .38 Short Colt is basically a shortened .38 Special. And it is popular among ICORE shooters because of its easier and faster ejection from .38 Special revolvers, owing to its short case. It can be fired safely in .38 S&W revolvers, even though it is a sloppy fit in their chambers. One of my favorite calibers.

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Hopefully the OP has purchased some ".38 Special" or ".38 S&W Special" ammo and now realizes that the ".38 S&W Short" (what Fiocci is calling their ".38 S&W" ammo) is not correct for his revolver.

What is interesting is that you have to really search hard to find some ".38 S&W" while ".38 Special/.38 S&W Special" should be found in quantity on the shelves of just about every gun store or ammo retailer in the nation.
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This confusion might be a coming from a location and/or language thing.

OP: What country are you in?
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The 45 Cowboy Special is for the gamers in SASS. Its a 45 ACP case with a 45 Colt case head. Great light plinking lot.
That cartridge gave sufficient room to load black powder to produce enough smoke to satisfy the shooters.

But, it is still a 45 ACP case and can be loaded as such. I have used them in my ACP revolvers ( headspace on the mouth) and in the 45 long Colt revolvers when I used them.

I may still have some.

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Lol. Exactly what I stated in my post… good grief.

There is a bit of reasoning in this confusion. The 38 S&W uses a larger diameter and shorter case than the 38 Special (or 38 S&W Special). Fiochi ammunition is made in Italy where descriptions can be a bit different than what we see in the USA. In this case Fiochi decided to be a bit more descriptive with their ammunition and added the word SHORT to the correct terminology of 38 S&W. The end result is an identification of 38S&W SHORT, which is actually rather logical because the 38 S&W is shorter and fatter than the 38 Special.

Which is incorrect for a 38 Special Revolver. Note, the 38 S&W Special naming convention is now obsolete. Back when Smith & Wesson actually made ammunition it was probably used by S&W but no manufacturer today will use that naming. All you will find is 38 Special and that is a direct and exact duplicate of the 38 S&W Special. BTW CTG is an abbreviation for Cartridge.
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Which is incorrect for a 38 Special Revolver. Note, the 38 S&W Special naming convention is now obsolete. Back when Smith & Wesson actually made ammunition it was probably used by S&W but no manufacturer today will use that naming. All you will find is 38 Special and that is a direct and exact duplicate of the 38 S&W Special. BTW CTG is an abbreviation for Cartridge.
It was called S&W Special because S&W developed the cartridge and they got to name it.
No different that the .45 ACP. Colt came out with it, they got to put their name on the cartridge. And the .45 Colt (sometimes called Long Colt). They developed it, they get to name it.
And the .45 GAP. Glock came up with the round, they stuck their name on it.
And the .40 which is named .40 S&W because S&W developed the round.
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