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Is Sellier and Bellot Good ?
Just wondering if I should try some?
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I’ve always had good luck with S&B…10mm, 9mm and .45ACP. I found it accurate and clean burning.
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very excellent brand I think
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11-03-2024, 10:00 PM
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Yes, it’s good ammo. I like em for their metric ammo, e.g., 9x21, 7x57, etc.
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Agree with all above.
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Pete,
There was the same question in April that is extensive, this is a link to it: Question about Sellier & Bellot ammo
There were 40 replies, so this should thoroughly answer your question. They also make ammunition for quite a few quite obscure and formerly obsolete cartridges, .303 Savage is one that immediately comes to mind.
Here's a link to their web site: Your ammunition company since 1825 – Sellier & Bellot
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11-03-2024, 10:23 PM
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I found it very reliable in 9mm, but did have few issues with .38 Special. This was about fourteen years ago, and my internet research at the time showed it had a reputation for hard primers.
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11-03-2024, 10:25 PM
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I like it. It's cheap, accurate, consistent, and clocks velocities higher than US brands, especially in 9mm.
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We ran several truck loads of .223, worked just fine. Did MOA out of my bolt gun.
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11-03-2024, 10:49 PM
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I think the Czechs make some of the best ammo in the world. I especially like their factory ammo for metric cartridges like 9x18, 7.62x25 and 7.65 Browning (.32 ACP). Some years ago, I bought some .38 Special 140-grain cowboy loads that were outstanding. It is also good brass to reload.
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S&B was purchased by Colt/CZ last year which bodes well for the brand. It should make a very good brand even better.
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11-03-2024, 11:00 PM
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I've gone through hundreds of rounds of S&B in .45 as well as .303 British with no problems.
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They are almost 200 yrs old, even make their own primers.
Excellent used for over 35 yrs
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11-04-2024, 12:18 AM
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Excellent company and ammo.
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In 7x57 they make both the 140gr & 173gr soft point. I believe also even the 7x57 R...
Never had a problem with S&B: wish their primers were readily available again!
Cheers!
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S&B is in the Czech Republic. I reload and I have picked up S&B brass in 38 Special and its a lower quality than Federal, Remington or even Winchester.
I tend to buy American.
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S&B is first class ammo in 9mm. Their FMJ is loaded to better velocities than you generally see out of plinking ammo, to the point you will see some complaints of it being too hot. Such complaints usually come from those who think that weak sauce 115gr @ 1100 fps is normal. S&B is my go to ammo for breaking in new guns.
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I prefer S&B when you line them up against all the other "budget" ammo.
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My experience with S&B is spotty. .32 acp is excellent and .380 is very good. 115 gr 9mm is under powered and inaccurate. 7.62x39 that I tried had coated cases that stuck in the chambers. .303 British had coated brass that was nearly impossible to reprime after firing and very short lived.
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22 LONG RIFLE - CLUB!
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Their 9mm ammo clocks at near 9mm NATO standard velocities. I've had no issues with it at all, but it's also the only S&B ammo I've used thus far.
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My experience with S&B is spotty. .... 115 gr 9mm is under powered and inaccurate...
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Never a problem for me, I'm a 124 gr guy.
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Several years ago, I got a great deal on a little Sako Vixen in 222 Remington. I had an extra 2x7 Leupold I threw on it and went to the LGS for some ammo. 222 was not plentiful, but they had a couple of boxes of S&B 50 grain soft points. The first 5 rounds at 100 yards were touching. Yeah, I like it!
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Possibly not relevant now, but 25 years ago I fired just a few 12 ga bird shot loads in my Winchester m 50 short stroke semi auto, neglected to clean right away, and while showing to a friend 2 weeks later discovered, to both our surprise, rust in the sliding chamber. Not much but enough to not trust again with out proof of non corrosive, which was described on the box.
Whom was it once said: <if you don't drink a country's water, don't shoot their ammo>. Apology for not proper notation.
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I bought some but did some research first. They’ve been in business for 200 years and their 380 and 32 ACP is very clean, consistent, and accurate if I do my part. I just ordered another bunch of 32 ACP. Round nose is my carry load in 32 since every thing I have read about hollow points is that they don’t expand at all at the speed of a 32 OR, if they do expand, they do not penetrate deep enough to do any damage.
Buy S&B I’m certain you’ll be happy with them
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S&B's good stuff. If you reload their brass be advised S&B has
tight flash holes and primer pockets. I don't mind that but the
whiners do.
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I tried their 9mm many decades ago & it was not accurate for me at all. I switched to PMC for cheap ammo & it was/is amazing.
Never bought it again, but now that CZ has it, I may need to try it again.
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Bought a short case of their 124gr 9mm a few years back. Recoil was a bit heavy. After I bought a couple of cases of WW military 9mm from SGAmmo, I could tell it's the equal to NATO ammo. Accuracy is good in my 365's, ok in my 3913.
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So I have had issues with the 10mm ammo none with 9mm
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Their 357 Mag FMJ ammo was affordable and great at the range. Wish I still had more of it.
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As stated, tight primer pockets.
Have used a few thousand 380s and a few hundred 38spl.
Reload the brass without problems.
Sel & Bel rings great.
Still have some that is in the rug with my DS.
Think that's S&B in pic.
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Yes. I've shot a bunch of their pistol ammo in the past and never had a problem.
I'm pretty sure they're the only ones making 9.3x72R nowadays.
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I’ve shot a lot of it in my .32acp Tomcat and my 77/22 Hornet. I’m very happy with it. I recently got a box of 44 mag 240gr JSP. Only shot 12 rds to test and it grouped nicely from a 3” 629. It all seems to run clean as well
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Only stuff I recall is their steel cased 7.62X39 in the blue boxes. The cases were gray. When I messed with SKS rifles it beat the Russian stuff for accuracy and no issues. Not that accuracy is an SKS thing, really, IMO.Still got part of a box left.
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I've gone through several cases of their 9x19, mostly 124-grain but including one case of 115-grain. I never had any issues with it in my Berettas, Glocks, or Walthers. Older brass was hard to re-prime, but the current stuff works fine in my Dillon 550.
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Never had any issues with any of their factory loads. I have encountered some overly tight primer pockets when reloading some of their pistol brass.
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Some years back Cabela's had a sale on S&B primers. I wasn't sure how good they were but for $18.50 a brick I figured it was worth a try. Out of the 8 thousand I bought I didn't have a single issue. Even when used in guns with reduced power springs.
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Narragansett,I occasionally shoot it in my .38s and it's been very reliable.I usually buy it from SGA when they have it in 158 gr and 500 round lots.Its also pretty reasonably priced.
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I’ve shot tons of S&B over the years- mostly 9mm, .38 Spl and 45ACP and it’s always been great ammo.
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About 15 years ago I was given a box of .38 Spl. with the purchase of a revolver. 3 or 4 rounds failed to fire - in anything - kept trying until the primer cups wore through. About a year later had the same experience with .357 (for which I paid). Gave up on it. Clearly others have had better results. You may, too.
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I’ve used plenty in 9mm (115 gr and 124 gr FMJ) …very reliable and better quality in my opinion than Remington and Winchester
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