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.44 Special vs .45 Colt on whitetail deer
Ok, most of you that know me know that I love old time cartridges. So, between the two, which would be better on whitetail deer? I have always had a warm place in my heart for both the .44 Special and the .45 Colt, but to me, there is something to be said about using a modern .44 Special like a 624 or 24-3 with a 250 grain cast Lyman #429421 behind Skeeter's old load of 7.5 grains of Unique against a whitetail buck.
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08-09-2009, 05:24 PM
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With a decent length barrel and the best factory loads in each caliber the deer likely won't know the difference. Handloaded hot, the .45 Colt in the right gun can out run the .44 magnum. So It gets the nod in that case.
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08-09-2009, 05:25 PM
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I would prefer the 44 Special, but I would use one of Elmer Keith's 2400 loads for deer hunting.
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08-09-2009, 05:53 PM
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I vote for the bigger hole..........45LC.
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In factory loads, the .45. With suitable handloads, either.
But unless you're using a big Ruger SA, the thinner chamber walls in tthe .45 require the .44, if you're loading hot. Elmer Keith had discovered that by the 1920's!
I'm sure that your Skelton load will work to at least 60 yards, but is on the light side if you're deliberately hunting a deer, as opposed to taking a target of opportunity under ideal circumstances.
If you hunt with a handgun, I really think the .44 Magnum is a better choice, and you don't have to worry about acccidentally slipping a "Ruger only" .45 round into an old Colt New Service or SAA. Or, a M-25-5, this being the S&W forum...
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08-12-2009, 08:57 AM
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With the right load, the whitetail wont know the difference between the 44 or 45. So shoot the one one you like and enjoy yourself.
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08-12-2009, 09:19 AM
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Assuming good hits there's no way there's any difference in between the two cartridges.
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I have and load for a 25-5. The .45LC as stated is as good/better than a .44 Mag if loaded right. It also makes a bigger hole which is nice.
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With proper bullet placement,(all calibers) Skeeters .44 Special load will work just fine! Used to use the same load in a Ruger .44 mag and had no trouble with the three whitetails I bagged. The only whitetail that left the front sight was one I nailed in the lungs useing the Speer .44 225 gr half jacket hollow point. It sorta blew up on a rib on the way in and not much of it reached the off side lung. Had to track that one for a bit, never used a jacketed hollowpoint again. Hard cast LSWC, big hole in, big hole out, works every time!
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Many years ago, while serving on a US military base in the south, I took several whitetails using an issued M1911A1 .45 ACP 230-grain ball ammo. All were taken within 25 yards, and all were one-shot kills with heart-lung shots.
Both the .44 Special and .45 Colt are superior in power to the .45 ACP. I would recommend the heavy semi-wadcutter bullets for this use.
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Critters can't tell the difference.
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Originally Posted by David LaPell
a 250 grain cast Lyman #429421 behind Skeeter's old load of 7.5 grains of Unique against a whitetail buck.
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That will surely work, but I feel a whole lot more comfortable with my 7.5" Blackhawk .45 with a 250 grain SWC and 10.0 grains of Unique. I have recently reduced that load to 9.0 grains of Unique, but I still have several hundred rounds of the old 10 grain load.
That 10 grain load will punch through a 150 pound Georgia whitetail more times than not, usually taking out both front shoulders. The bullet will usually either pooch up under the off-side skin, or go clean through. That is from the Blackhawk or a Trapper 94 Winchester.
I believe I will "sight in" the Winchester this weekend. I have seen two nice bucks on one of my places, and my neighbor stopped me Saturday and told me he had seen them just minutes before, crossing the road going through my place. Gun season opens here in five or six weeks.
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