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Old 11-01-2011, 02:30 PM
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Today is the day Wisconsinites can apply for their concealed carry permit!
As of 12:01 am the Department of Justice website has had a link for the form that needs to be filled out and sent in along with proof of training and $50.
The permit is good for 5 years.

I had mine hand delivered to the post office at 8:30am because that's when they opened. The permits are first in / first out, so I want to be in right away.

Out of state permit holders can carry beginning today. I'm not very pleased that residents can't carry using an out of state permit, but what can I do about it?

I have seen plenty of 'No Firearms' signs posted so I will be purchasing some of the business cards that explain my feelings about not being able to carry a sidearm where I wish, hopefully to convince business owners that we permitted folks are the good guys here....

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Congratulations!

Wisconsin joins Nevada on my "What's your problem?" list.
Oklahoma recognizes Wisconsin and meets all the stated requirements for reciprocal, but Wisconsin does not recognize OK!

The last time I went through this issue with another state's bumbling public servants, the answer was, "Oklahoma has to formally request recognition from us." Is that Wisconsin's problem?
(Nevada won't even answer the question).
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Wisconsin joins Nevada on my "What's your problem?" list.
Oklahoma recognizes Wisconsin and meets all the stated requirements for reciprocal, but Wisconsin does not recognize OK!

The last time I went through this issue with another state's bumbling public servants, the answer was, "Oklahoma has to formally request recognition from us." Is that Wisconsin's problem?
(Nevada won't even answer the question).
now now ....
they are new at this and have yet to hammer out all the details ... give em a chance not to blow holes in eachother and they'll lighten up on the paranoia a bit
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Good for you. Here in Indiana you can get a LIFETIME carry permit for $120.
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We know what happened in IL, especially Chicago, and then there's Washington DC. Yeh, they 'allow' permits', but you have to apply during the full moon on a summer solstice when the bats are mating.....If anyone's interested "Guns and Patriots" has a contiuing article about a lady trying to get a permit in DC-
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Point is re: WI, if or when the legislature turns back to a - shall we say- less open-minded legislature, I can imagine the obstacles they'll put in the way. So the OP is right to get out there and do it quick, IMHO.

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Congratulations!

Wisconsin joins Nevada on my "What's your problem?" list.
Oklahoma recognizes Wisconsin and meets all the stated requirements for reciprocal, but Wisconsin does not recognize OK!

The last time I went through this issue with another state's bumbling public servants, the answer was, "Oklahoma has to formally request recognition from us." Is that Wisconsin's problem?
(Nevada won't even answer the question).
Must be a legal issue. I mean states requesting from states.
Is Michigan on your list? I called and they honor a lot of states, but you can't carry in Michigan unless you have a Michigan CCW. You can't get a Michigan CCW unless you live in Michigan. How does that work?
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so in WI if someone hangs a no guns sign does that apply if you have a permit to carry concealed?
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Very cool.... My trip to Milwaukee will be much easier next year now.
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so in WI if someone hangs a no guns sign does that apply if you have a permit to carry concealed?
The way the law reads, it is a class B forfeiture to carry a concealed weapon on someone's property after being notified that the owner does not want you to do so. The notice can be verbal or in the form of a sign measuring no less than 5 x 7 inches.

A class B forfeiture is a $200 fine.

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Must be a legal issue. I mean states requesting from states.
Is Michigan on your list? I called and they honor a lot of states, but you can't carry in Michigan unless you have a Michigan CCW. You can't get a Michigan CCW unless you live in Michigan. How does that work?
How that works is you get a CHL from YOUR home state, and then you can carry in MI. Just like I legally carry in MI with MY home state (OK) CHL.

It also illustrates the fallacy of calling on the phone and asking for verbal legal advice.

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If you are a non-resident of Michigan with a valid concealed pistol permit from your home state, Michigan will recognize your permit. However, you must carry in conformance with any and all restrictions appearing on the permit. You are subject to Michigan's concealed pistol law including but not limited to restrictions on where a concealed pistol may be carried.

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Had the form printed out at 12:30am on 11/1 but had a bunch of stuff to do, so it didn't get mailed out til today. So I'll probably get it on the 44th day.
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I held off sending my app. in until I could get a postal money
order. Figured that it wouldn't leave the post office any sooner anyway,
and no worries about waiting for check to clear.
As far as requirements were concerned, I had three ways to go;
I sent all three in with the form. Been waiting for this day ever
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I had 2 ways, hunter safety and LE academy training. I sent in the academy paperwork with 50-60 hrs training. Saved me from having to pay to reprint my hunter safety stuff from back in the mid 80's.
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How that works is you get a CHL from YOUR home state, and then you can carry in MI. Just like I legally carry in MI with MY home state (OK) CHL.

It also illustrates the fallacy of calling on the phone and asking for verbal legal advice.


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Yes I know that, I talked to the attorney general. Problem is, Wisconsin had no permit. So I could be permitted in every state in the country, but without a permit from your HOME state, you can't carry in Michigan. Even now, I can't carry in Michigan until my WI permits comes in.

I thought they would make an exception for WI and IL because they didn't have permits, but no go....
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without a permit from your HOME state, you can't carry in Michigan. Even now, I can't carry in Michigan until my WI permits comes in.

I thought they would make an exception for WI and IL because they didn't have permits, but no go....
CO, FL, MI, NH, SC, and ME ONLY honor a permit from your home state, except FL, NH, and ME will sell you one of theirs by mail before you visit, if you wish.

Each state has its own gun laws and NONE of them care how you do it back home, so you have to follow the law for the state you visit, and some of the laws are really screwy. Especially, watch out for statutory off-limits and signage rules.
Example: OK has NO signage requirements, so you just have to know where not to carry your gun and the possible penalties, like no signs on bars but a felony to carry inside.
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The way the law reads, it is a class B forfeiture to carry a concealed weapon on someone's property after being notified that the owner does not want you to do so. The notice can be verbal or in the form of a sign measuring no less than 5 x 7 inches.
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A class B forfeiture is a $200 fine.
thanks that explains it.....Texas has a sign law that is very specific and must be in both English and Spanish it is called a 30.06 sign......easy to remember....Florida on the other hand.......You'd have to be told to leave the property.......no gun signs are for gun haters.
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As a Minnesota resident I am happy to finally be legal in Wisc as I live only 30 miles from the border and travel there often on the motorcycle for the great roads. Long time coming!
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I don't see MN yet as a state that honors WI? Maybe I'm missing something, maybe it's in the works?
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I don't see MN yet as a state that honors WI? Maybe I'm missing something, maybe it's in the works?
dont hold your breath
in past research MN honored an NE permit .. that is no longer the case.
In fact it would appear MN's current admin seem fairly well set on keeping guns out
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I don't see MN yet as a state that honors WI? Maybe I'm missing something, maybe it's in the works?
MN honors Utah though, and you do have your Utah permit right?
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I've just had the FL non-res, ever since Doyle vetoed the last CCW bill. I go to the U.P. & out West more than MN anyway, just wanted to see them honor WI.
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Mailed in the app. on 11/1, got the permit on 11/4.
That's pretty fast, IMO. TACC1
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That's pretty fast, IMO. TACC1
OMG !! You got yours??? I'm running to the mailbox now!!!

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Update: No permit in the mail today.
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None here either, but I assume mine and my wifes arrived in the avalanche of them, since ours went out 11/2. I figure at least a couple weeks.
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I just heard that a new law passed today requires no trainng to apply for the CC permit. Not even the hunters safety course. Is this really true?

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Old 11-08-2011, 06:27 AM
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I just heard that a new law passed today requires no trainng to apply for the CC permit. Not even the hunters safety course. Is this really true?

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No, what they did is drop the 4hr training mandate. You still have to have training, it just doesn't have to be a 4 hr minimum now.
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Old 11-08-2011, 04:05 PM
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No permit today.
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Old 11-08-2011, 06:18 PM
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They've probably seen me gimping around and felt sorry for me....
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Old 11-09-2011, 12:02 PM
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The clerk at the LGS said his check cleared his bank yesterday, so he thinks his permit will come soon.

I checked my bank and my check cleared yesterday also. That means they opened my application envelope anyway!

I'm hopeful I'll see my permit today. If WI would let residents carry with an out-of-state license I wouldn't be so dang worried about when it comes....

By the way, it's snowing to beat the band here, high winds, thunder and snow flakes as big as cotton balls...
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Old 11-09-2011, 12:28 PM
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There are a few local guys around here that got their's yesterday.

I'm hoping mine gets here somewhat soon. I'm like a kid at Christmas.
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Old 11-09-2011, 04:04 PM
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Not today again....
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Old 11-09-2011, 10:07 PM
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Couple of the local guys got their permits ,but checks not cashed yet.

Nothing here either
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Old 11-09-2011, 10:48 PM
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My brother-in-law got his today and sent it in on the 2nd.

His check cleared his bank yesterday.
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Don't give up yet. I asked the officials to hold off on yours 'til you asked nice... TACC1
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Old 11-10-2011, 09:57 AM
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You dirty dog...

When I go out to eat, I always get the smallest steak.

When they bring the soup, my bowl is always half full while everyone else's is overflowing.

On an airplane when we all see that really fat chick coming down the isle.... Don't worry, she always sits by me.

So I kind of figured my permit would be the last one out....

Hope springs eternal! Maybe today... Maybe today.
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Mailed my app in on the 1st and got my permit yesterday, as did my dad.
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Old 11-10-2011, 10:25 AM
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Mailed my app in on the 1st and got my permit yesterday, as did my dad.
You guys are killing me....
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