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Browning Hi-Power as a carry gun
I don't want to start a firestorm today but since I have a few Browning Hi-Power pistols I have given some thought of making one an alternate carry gun. Anyone else use one as a carry gun? My plan is to use 124grn or 147 grn ammo as a defense round.
Any thoughts or suggestions?
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Don't know why it would cause a firestorm.
Mine carries just fine in a Safariland holster on a Looper belt.
I choose 124gr Gold Dots. Choose the ammo you prefer.
Not exactly a pocket gun, but easily covered by a sports jacket, shirt-jac, etc.
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Make sure you have a good and comfortable holster.
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I have found the HiPower to fit very nicely in almost all 1911 leather, making finding a good holster pretty easy.
As for carry: Hard to find a better suited 9mm pistol in the world for that purpose.
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Only other things you'll need will be a good strong gun belt and good solid holster and it would seem you're set!!
I believe the late great Stephen A. Camp was a big fan of both the snubby revolver and the BHP. Both of them are great guns.
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I have a couple of Hi-Powers and have carried them occasionally.
One of the holster I used was an old Dillon Leather LTD made for the 1911. One was made for the Hi-Power. Both worked well.
Ammo I've used includes 115 and 124 grain loads from Winchester and Cor-
Bon. I have also shot a lot of surplus FMJ ammo in practice.
I see no reason not to carry a BHP if you feel like doing so.
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With the Browning my only concern was magazines. As long as you have good, reliable magazines, you should be all set. As for ammo, I have used two or three different types in my guns but always try to use the +P stuff sparingly. The norm for me is Federal 124 gr Hydra-shok +P and the Winchester Ranger 124 gr. SXT +P. I am not a big fan of 147 gr. loads in 9x19.
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I've frequently carried a Browning. It carries pretty much like an M1911. I only carry IWB, in one of my handmade tuckable IWB holsters.
The BHP is a great CCW gun. I use the Winchester White Box 147gr. JHPs, with which it's both accurate and reliable.
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The Browning Hi Power has always been one of my "must have" pieces. I've carried and used the Hi Power since 1970 or so, on 3 continents and in multiple roles in military and civilian life. I would never feel under-armed with a Hi Power in my hand or under my pillow in any circumstances.
Picked up a short case of Speer Gold Dot 124-grain ammo a few years back, and it is just as good as 9mm ammo can be.
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I love the High Power, but I've never felt comfortable with it for concealed carry because the safety doesn't 'click' on or off the way a 1911 safety does. Sure, if the safety is up the gun's on safe, and if it's down it's on fire, but it doesn't 'tell" you that; you don't feel or hear it happen. Moreover, more than once I've holstered a High Power set on safe -- crossdraw, in a good IWB holster made for the gun -- and found it set on fire when I drew it.
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Nothing wrong with the HPs. I have about eleven of them.
And I sometimes carry one as a CHL Gun.
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Heck yes! Few firearms have the real world cred's of this gun. Among it's virtues are incredible ergonomics, fantastic reliability, slender and flat slide (aiding concealability) and better than average cartridge capacity. It's only the advent of the polymer gun that give the Hi Power a significant disadvantage over more modern pistols: weight. However, as pointed out many times above, a good holster pretty much eliminates the issue.
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Love and carry my HP. I have two, a "T" 1967 that is unfired{I dont carry that one} and a Practical that has a Bar-Sto barrel, C&S hammer and sear and Tru-glo sights {the carry gun.} I carry it for one reason...of all the handguns I own {about 50} it is the one I consistently shoot the best. I have a shoulder rig, a small of back, a Wilderness case and a "Day planner" when holsters just wont work. I do not carry it "cocked and locked." I figure if I got time to push the safety off then I also got time to pull the hammer back. Fortunately I have not had to find out and I am hopeful it will stay that way, but it is my carry gun in bear country {cabin in Virginia} or urban environment and everywhere in between. I prefer Winchester Ranger ammo but often carry with Federal Hydro-shok as well.
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Hi Powers are proven, world wide, to be reliable, accurate enough, and powerful enough for general self defense. Perhaps the most commonly found pistol in military & civilian use in the free world during the Cold War (outside the USA).
9mm ammo is often cheaper, and 40 S&W ammo is commonly found around here.
Two problems are the lack of marketing and skyrocketing retail prices.
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Gotta have good ammo............
I am in line for a Hi-power when finances permit. I carry around a Beretta brigadier now for the 9MM side of things. My only problem is I'm not a fan of the .40S&W and that leaves the 9MM. The ammo offered today is anemic at best. I have some IMI 9MM +P carbine ammo that is sufficient. Bargain 9mm ammo suxx for speed, let alone power. Critical defense or double tap should be ok, but it is not where it should be power-wise, as when the cartridge was incepted. A 16 pound spring(in my Beretta) and 1400-1450 FPS is good 9MM ammo in my opinion. Those HP's can be darned sexy pistols when set up properly. Again, JMO
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I've never carried mine but I've carried full size 1911. Had a buddy who was a LRRP in "Nam. Preferred the HiPower over the 1911 due to magazine capacity. He said he carried his around town, concealed.
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Still my favorite auto of all time...wish I could carry it but not allowed single actions. If you feel comfortable with cocked and locked, then go for it. On a related note, Jim Hoag called me yesterday and said mine is ready....can't wait to try his 4.5 pound trigger!
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The Hi-Power is one of my favorite "full-size" semi-autos (the 1911 being the other). I use a Galco IWB holster that is for a 1911 Commander and it fits the Hi-Power perfectly. A loose t-shirt in warm weather, or a jacket or sweatshirt in colder weather cover it up nicely. An excellent choice for concealed carry in my opinion. 
Ammo-wise, I stick with 124gr or 147 golden sabres, gold dots, or rangers/pdx1.
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I love the High Power, but I've never felt comfortable with it for concealed carry because the safety doesn't 'click' on or off the way a 1911 safety does. Sure, if the safety is up the gun's on safe, and if it's down it's on fire, but it doesn't 'tell" you that; you don't feel or hear it happen. Moreover, more than once I've holstered a High Power set on safe -- crossdraw, in a good IWB holster made for the gun -- and found it set on fire when I drew it.
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This may have been addressed in later engineering changes. My Mark III clicks noticeably, and can be felt when the safety changes position.
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Got the gun back...trigger is sweet...best 75 bucks I ever spent.
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Hoag? Wow. I lived a few miles from his shop back in the early '80s and stopped in a few times. Awesome, congrats!
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I have owned a Mark III for about 10 years now. Recently, I started carrying it instead of my Beretta 92. The Browning conceals easily here in Florida just under an untucked t-shirt in a strong side IWB holster.
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Great pistol for all around use. I have owned Hi-Powers since the early 70's and would not be without. I have carried one at various times and never felt uncomfortable with it.
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The one I plan to use is a 1973 Belgian made pistol, I bought used at Gander a few weeks ago. I am testing magazines now. I just ordered a Lobo snap on for my Glock 30 and now plan on looking for a holster for the Browning. I am not a fan of IWB but I think the Browning is Thin enough for me to try one. Otherwise it will be a standard OWB RH I order.
I have the Captain Model which I like but with the tangent sites I wouldn't use it for CCW. And I have a couple of German WWII guns I won't use either but do shoot.
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I carry mine frequently with Winchester Ranger in a Sparks Summer Special or VMII holster. Also carry an extra mag of 13 rounds. Installed Trijion night sights on it. Good to go.
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I think the HP is a great 9mm; if I were where .45 ACP ammo was not available and forced to use 9mm, it would be high on my list for carry guns. I had this FEG HP clone customized at Cylinder and Slide to correct the few faults I find with the stock guns. The sights, the trigger pull, the safety, and the tendency for the gun to bite the hand that feeds it have all been addressed here.
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HiPower!
I have had several P35's over the years. Currently, I have a Mk III that was moderately worked over by someone who knows how to do that. It has had Novak night sights added and the barrel recrowned and a round hammer and positive safety. The trigger was brought down to a smooth 5 lbs with the mag disconnect still there. It was coated with Birdsong Black T coating. It has a very nice, dark set of finely checkered walnut grips by a well know maker. Its a very nice and accurate pistol. It has run 100% on anything I feed it. I have 15 dependable mags for it.
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As far as magazines, MecGar or Browning are the only real options. The rest range from 'maybe, sometimes' to useless.
The somewhat out of date yet still worthwhile 'HiPower Magazine FAQ' is located here:
Browning Hi-Power Magazine FAQ
Some 1911 leather works with the BHP, others do not. Test.
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I carry my Mk III .40 when I'm travelling, and in a Miami Classic shoulder rig. It keeps it secure and easily accessable, and the twin mag pouch on the off side balances it nicely. I prefer a .40 over the 9, but that's just me. This is the softest shooting most controllable .40 I've ever used. The one drawback is taking it down for cleaning. They engineered the gun with a HEAVY recoil spring, and puttin it back together will flat wear out your thumb! And be prepared to put some Ooomph into racking the slide, too.
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I have not owned a Hi Power in a while. If I were looking to carry one today I would go with either a:
Choice #1 Lobo Avenger with Inner Slide Shield, and Detail Boned.
Choice #2 would be a Lobo IWB with Inner Slide Shield made form the optional horse hide.
One or the other, or better yet both holsters should make carrying one no problem at all.
A 1911 is very carryable, the Hi Power is close enough to a 1911 in both size and weight that they should carry the same.
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I think I am about to "gain" a Hi-Power.
I will not carry it concealed but I will shoot it.
I've been spending a lot of time on Mr. Camp's site. It is VERY worthwhile.
Please go here. Hi Powers and Handguns
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I am not fond of IWB holsters I could never get comfortable with one. But I have been toying with the idea of one for the Browning. I figure it is thin enough and might just work. I do loke Lobo leather I figure the IWB would be better for concealment in the long run.
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These weapons are designed for FMJ, so be sure the magazines and weapon will run with JHP.
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True of the originals with the humped feed ramps. I have never had a malfunction in my MK2 or MK3's with any of the JHPs I have tried (Golden Saber, Gold Dot, Winchester JHP, Ranger, and PDX-1, Remington 115gr JHPs that come in the yellow box), but my HPs have the straight feed ramps.
Also, some of the older magazines are reputed to work more reliably when loaded with only 12 rounds instead of 13. Never had an issue with Browning or Mec-Gar 13 round mags myself.
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Sadly due to Steve's untimely death the web site has not been upgraded.......Are his books still available???? If so how does one buy them???Any help would be appreciated..........
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I would make the High Power
a primary carry gun except for the fact my primary off-duty pistol is a 1970s Colt Combat Commander .45 acp that has been treated to an overhaul by David Sams of Sams Custom Gunworks in Virginia. I've owned the Colt since 1982 and it was time for a visit to the spa. New sights (Novak, gold bead front sight) 4.5# trigger, and a 22 step reliability check list.
Back to the High Power for carry. I currently own 2; a Canadian INGLIS from WWII and a 1952 vintage Israeli Police Pistol. While neither one are beauty queens, the both function quite well:

I shot two magazines through each gun from 10 yards. The Inglis shoots a tighter group but either gun were flawless and served their purposes. To paraphrase Frank Perdue's (of Perdue Chickens) comercial where he was touting 1/2 roasting chicken (propped up from behind with popsicle sticks after roasting) "It looks a little funny, but is shoots just as well as a whole one!"
I have some Federal 147 grain JHPs that feed/function quite well in both of my High Powers; neither gun has every given me an iota of a problem.
Most of the holsters that I use to carry my 1911s are just the right size for a High Power; if anything, even though they are hi-cap stacked 9mm guns they conceal quite well. I like them.
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Sadly due to Steve's untimely death the web site has not been upgraded.......Are his books still available???? If so how does one buy them???Any help would be appreciated..........
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They are still available. His wife has taken over the order process, just use the updated information on the products page.
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They are still available. His wife has taken over the order process, just use the updated information on the products page.
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^ those are nice.
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Love em myself...Too me they are the best, well I love the SW model 39 to.
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12-07-2011, 09:59 PM
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Another fan of the BHP........
Here is one I am fond of.
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12-07-2011, 11:57 PM
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Here is one I am fond of.

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LOVE that holster...tell us about it (the BHP is nice, too!)
Bob
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12-08-2011, 09:08 AM
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Bob the old tooled holster is unmarked but who ever the craftsman was he did a good job.
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12-08-2011, 09:24 AM
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I carried a Browning Hi-Power for many years, in a Bianchi shoulder holster(X-15), and also carried it "Mexican" style in my waistband back in the day when I worked homicide in a City police department. Back then as long as you could qualify with it, you could carry it. The ammo back then was no where near as advanced as today's offerings. I have a Browning Hi-Power sitting in my safe and would not hesitate to carry one again. Great reliable weapon, that shoots like pointing your finger.
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12-08-2011, 11:16 AM
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I have 2 40's and a 9. Frankly, I prefer the 40's. They gobble up Fed-Spec. Maximum Effort 155's and beg for more. This is the load that was known for tearing up Glocks.
The Browning "Factory" Magazines for the .40 have a well designed ejection assist that clears the pistol positively.
The old trick of polishing the front face of the magazine body where the disconnect bears on it has helped the trigger pull considerably.
I would carry a BHP without hesitation.
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12-08-2011, 11:54 AM
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I nearly bought a beautiiful, nickled, adj. sighted BHP in the late 70s but came to the realization that I wasn't going to be comfortable carrying it cocked and locked. Still wish I had bought it to shoot, however. One of the prettiest semis I ever saw.
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The BHP, like the 1911, can be equiped with the "safety fast shooting system" which, in my view is a much better idea than cocked and locked, and would make aHi-Power a very effective CC piece in my view. Flapjack.
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12-15-2011, 09:51 AM
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The BHP, like the 1911, can be equiped with the "safety fast shooting system" which, in my view is a much better idea than cocked and locked, and would make aHi-Power a very effective CC piece in my view. Flapjack.
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I guess I'm going to show my ignorance...But what is a "Safety Fast System" for a BHP I would really like to know as I am a fan of the BHP..
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I guess I'm going to show my ignorance...But what is a "Safety Fast System" for a BHP I would really like to know as I am a fan of the BHP..
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The SFS system in a nut shell replaces the hammer. You chamber a round like normal then push the back of the hammer forward. The hammer then "drops" forward and the safety locks in the up postion. To fire you push the safety off and the hammer then goes to full cocked and you fire like normal. It's offered by Cylinder and Slide. I had one on my 1911 and it worked fine.
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