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Old 01-16-2016, 12:43 PM
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After watching the Philly assault on the police officer sitting in his car by the ISIS recruit, it occurred to me that if the officer carried on the right side the seat belt buckle would interfere with getting his weapon out for return fire. I carry a M36 on the right side and the buckle would make it almost impossible to draw it in a timely fashion. I have been thinking about a left side carry just because of this issue. What say you! How do you carry in your car?
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Old 01-16-2016, 12:53 PM
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Personally, I use a Serpa CQC Carbon Fiber Paddle, which is a Blackhawk, as a cross draw, placed on my left side, if I am going to be in the vehicle for lone periods of time. However, for just short trips around town, I simple like to pulled the piece from my right side paddle and stick it in between my pants and body, on my left side, while sitting in the vehicle.
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Old 01-16-2016, 02:08 PM
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If I am going to be in a car a LOT I use a shoulder holster. Other than that I leave it alone, which is right side behind the hip. I realize that slows the draw but I am not a cop and will not be out looking for problems. I am also very unlikely to be targeted specifically while actually driving. Much more likely while either getting into or out of the vehicle. I am reasonably comfortable with those odds.
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I sometimes carry my 1911 crossdraw at about the 10-o-clock position. It's comfortable and gives me the option of drawing with either hand, although clumsily with my left. Conceals well enough under a light shirt or jacket.

I really want one of Andrews' carjacker crossdraw holsters as it attaches without removing your belt. You can get in the car and switch your carry gun to the carjacker holster, and then back when you get out.

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Old 01-16-2016, 02:28 PM
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Kirkpatrick....TCD.."Texas Cross Draw"..... for long trips or into the unknown...... I have 2; one for my 6906 another for a Beretta Compact or Centurion....

For daily travels in the "burbs of the Burgh" 3913 in a Sparks Summer Special...................
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Old 01-16-2016, 02:34 PM
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Everything in holster design involves compromises among the 4 basic factors of comfort, accessibility, security, and concealment. Whenever one factor is emphasized there will be compromises in the other factors. There is no such thing as the "perfect holster" for every user or circumstances. Only the individual user can decide which factors are most important and how much compromise is acceptable.

Cross-draw carry offers some advantages for those who are usually seated or driving, as well as those with range-of-motion issues in the strong-side hand/elbow/wrist/shouder. The trade-offs come in in reduced security (weapon retention) and reduced concealment.

We must all evaluate our circumstances and needs, then make the best choices (accepting the inevitable compromises).

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I've never carried strong side OWB. Always, for any situation, I've carried cross-draw. Has always worked best for me
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I've been thinking of going with a cross draw.
It's handier when driving. Since the grip's reversed, it won't stick out the back when I bend over.
This isn't me but it looks like it'll tuck in nicely to me.

Worth a try I guess.
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My normal carry position is cross-draw. Sorta left-side appendix. 10-11 o'clock. IWB. For me, its the best for my needs. In the car, though, its not so comfortable. I don't spend a lot of time in the car, so I just put gun on my lap while driving.
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Get a quality paddle holster. My snubby 66 fits nicely in a leather Galco paddle that allows me to carry cross draw when driving. When wearing lighter clothing, I carry my subcompact 9mm crossdraw in the kydex paddle that came with the Sig P290RS I bought. When I'm headed out into the woods, a tanker style chest holster works great for hunting or hiking carrying larger handguns, and keeps the firearm handy when driving or sitting.
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Never have carried OWB cross draw, but regularly use a shoulder rig, especially when driving any distance.
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I'm currently having some issues with my strong (right) side shoulder and have been using the cross draw about half the time. In a vehicle I'd never have a gun just laying around loose on my lap or anywhere else. Either holstered or in my center/door consoles.

If you get hit by another vehicle your gun will go flying if laying loose, generally not a good thing to have happen. Others may disagree.
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I use a gun rug between drivers seat and console of my P.U. it is secure yet ready to my strong hand if needed in very short order. When I exit the truck I draw my gun from the gun rug and insert same in my holster.
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I really want one of Andrews' carjacker crossdraw holsters as it attaches without removing your belt. You can get in the car and switch your carry gun to the carjacker holster, and then back when you get out.

I'd never heard of that holster until now. Went to their website for a closer look. It really looks interesting and practical. I like the snap on/snap off feature. Might have to look into that.
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After watching the Philly assault on the police officer sitting in his car by the ISIS recruit, it occurred to me that if the officer carried on the right side the seat belt buckle would interfere with getting his weapon out for return fire. I carry a M36 on the right side and the buckle would make it almost impossible to draw it in a timely fashion. I have been thinking about a left side carry just because of this issue. What say you! How do you carry in your car?
I couldn't figure out why he didn't drive forward thus leaving the BG standing in the street not being able to walk up to the window to continue shooting ..

I carry at 5 and would be hard to draw from that position ..
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I have a custom holster rig on my cars seat for when I am driving. I rotate the belt to position the gun perfectly for drawing while driving, and then rotate it to put the holster out of sight when I leave the vehicle.

Works like a charm.
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I carry a backup gun in a DeSantis pocket holster in my left jacket pocket. It's only a Kahr CM9 but I can get it easier than my right side IWB Sd40VE.
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Cross draw works very well for someone who is constantly in a vehicle or at a desk all day. The only negatives is that it gives a potential perp more opportunity to grab the gun from you and is a bit harder to conceal if it is worn closer to the 12 o'clock (belt buckle) position.

My normal method of CC is not cross draw but I have used this method in the past when stuck behind the wheel for many hours at a time. Not only is it more readily accessible, but it's actually a lot more comfortable for hours in a car.
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Whatever you get, practice with it actually sitting in your actual car with your seat belt on. You end up finding out alot of things you need to find out before hand, like maybe your gun hand hangs up on the shoulder belt as you reach across your body, or the steering wheel gets in the way in some cases, maybe the armrest being in the way in a small car, etc.
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After watching the Philly assault on the police officer sitting in his car by the ISIS recruit, it occurred to me that if the officer carried on the right side the seat belt buckle would interfere with getting his weapon out for return fire. I carry a M36 on the right side and the buckle would make it almost impossible to draw it in a timely fashion. I have been thinking about a left side carry just because of this issue. What say you! How do you carry in your car?
Cross draw is really a good procedure for a right hand shooter while in a vehicle but also if wearing a large long overcoat. Simply swing open the coat with the off hand and then cross draw with the strong hand either walking or driving (long heavy coat)
It's hard to wing the coat with the offhand while drawing a right hand carry rig...sometimes. But as with any procedure, that could just be me. I do carry my small colt outside right hand but most always with a short light jacket. If a long coat it would be on my left side. Or pocket. I know an officer that keeps a roll of quarters in his coat pocket so when he swings his coat, it really swings. According to him. That's not my thought.

Good post , Ross....

Chief. 12 o'clock or Appendix carry is not good... if an accidental discharge occurs you are subjected to hitting the arteries in your leg..also called the Mexican carry...

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I carry RH cross draw all the time, that's what works for me. In a vehicle, I like how easy it is to access my pistol in that position.
It may seem a little strange or maybe not, but with an unloaded pistol, I practice drawing while seated in my car. I work on bringing my gun into play as fast as I can with as little movement and effort as possible. I figure training is training and you never know when or where it might come in handy.
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I wear vests a lot so 9:30-10:00 cross draw with a J frame in a Remora Micro all the time.
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cross draw rigs for my Colt Agent IWB & S&W mod 29, 4".. OWB. with the Agent & my old Chiefs being relegated to pocket carry if on a quick errand from the house. IWB rigs & cross draw rigs are very handy... and you feel the reassuring presence of your weapon... but it's not uncomfortable and they are just as easily defended as any other CCW rig.
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I never did like sitting in the patrol car to do paper. It's too easy to get too focused on the paper and lose SA as to what's going on. My agency taught, and ruthlessly, to get out of the car if someone started approaching you, because being in the car is not a dominant position. I usually worked in rural areas and had places I would out of sight to do paper - anyone approaching me was not random and readily visible.

I carried my BUG initially on the off side ankle, and then later on the vest straps, set up for my off side hand (so essentially cross draw).
Being left handed, drawing on someone coming up on the driver side of the car and being able to point at them was ... iffy on a good day.
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