I didn't see any section of the law that prohibited a permit holder from carrying a loaded gun or loaded magazines (What about a speed strip or speed loader?)in a vehicle.

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Hmmmm, A hero unprepared is usually a dead hero. You carry a weapon NOT EXPECTING to ever have to use it, but for the eventuality of having to need it at some point. Spare ammo should be carried for the same reason. Anyone ever in a gunfight will tell you, " Well ****, I had 10 rounds on me how'd I run out so fast?"

Agreed, while it does say (B) No person shall knowingly transport or have a loaded firearm in a motor vehicle in such a manner that the firearm is accessible to the operator or any passenger without leaving the vehicle.

(5) Divisions (B) and (C) of this section do not apply to a person who transports or possesses a handgun in a motor vehicle if, at the time of that transportation or possession, both of the following apply:

(a) The person transporting or possessing the handgun is either carrying a valid concealed handgun license or is an active duty member of the armed forces of the United States and is carrying a valid military identification card and documentation of successful completion of firearms training that meets or exceeds the training requirements described in division (G)(1) of section 2923.125 of the Revised Code.

You have to read the complete law and sometimes even then dig down and find both the legislative intent of those passing said law and previous interpretations by courts and state Attorney General.

Think i have seen that commercial. If spare ammo is needed what about a means to restrain the individual who says "okay I give up". Or just keep them at gun point hoping they do not decide to change their mind and become violent again?

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I even carried extra rounds when I carried my derringer. Ya never know when you might want to shoot a few cans or dirt clods down at the gravel pit, and ya don't want to go home empty.

Only going to comment on the pistol reload. Food for thought!

I was at one of my Federal re-qualification classes (targets are timed and turn when time is up, you need to get X number of hits on target)) when I had a double feed on the 4th round. We were taught to rack/lock slide back, strip the magazine (letting it fall to the ground) rack the slide 3 times (to clear round in the chamber) and insert a fresh mag and rack the slide to chamber a fresh round. I was able to get all needed hits on target with this procedure.

Question: How fast can you clear a double feed with only the one magazine in the pistol ? Will you (under stress) drop it ? Then
what ? Just Sayen.

I carry a spare magazine not only for extra rounds to get out of a situation, but because you never know what will happen if you ever get (God forbid) in a self defense situation and get that dreaded double feed or other issues. Example, mag fubar’s in some way.

Same here.

It just goes to show that what one man requires for himself, another may not. While some guys carry a first-aid kit as part of their EDC, I don't require that for myself.

I started watching a YT video about essential things a man should carry every day. The first was a multi-tool, the second was para cord. I've never needed either one of those in a hurry, so I quit watching right there.

A man can state what he does, but when he starts stating what others need, that just might fall under the definition of "pontificating".

As far as extra ammo, I carry one speed-strip for a revolver or one spare mag for an auto.

Don’t care. We were discussing a loaded rifle. And there’s nothing in the law that exempts a permit holder from having a loaded rifle accessible to the occupants without exiting the vehicle if they’re not driving. Not going to argue more with a retired career security guard who admittedly only leaves his or her apartment less than twice a week. . .

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No doubt he is a brave guy, despite going 0/39.

But he grabbed all those mags from a range bag. Not particularly germaine to a discussion about carrying spare ammo on your person.

I keep a shotgun in my rig. I’ll grab that.

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Shotguns run out of ammo quick. Carry Sub 2000 with 33 round Glock mags.

Where do you live? Kabul?

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But they didn't.

So again- an ice cream scoop was NOT needed.

Is that the guy that carried two guns to Church, so he can "toss" someone a gun when the firefight starts????

No, but might've been the fella' with the Sub2000 . . .

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I've never heard of a Sub2000. Is it a gun or a joke?

KelTec pistol caliber folding rifle. Takes common pistol magazines, including the 30+ round Glock mags popular with mall ninjas . . .

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Not usually a reason I see popo up when this is discussed once or twice a week here, but...

My main reason for carrying a reload is so I'm not stuck with an empty gun after the shooting is over. Depending on the area you're in, there are some folks that will object to their relatives or friends being ventilated, regardless of whether it was justified or not.
That could be a long x-amount of minutes waiting for the first (or second, in this case) responders to arrive.

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I still have my grandfather's black-jack. An elegant weapon for a more civilized time.
Probably not going to add it to the kit, though, despite it's obvious value to your situation.

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So the mags from the range bag don't count......but the shotgun from your rig factors in.

OK

Klyde

They both count if you’re not talking about carrying ammo on your person.

Neither count if you are. Which we are.

OK.

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Retired and no longer compensated for chasing bad guys.

Live in a small near-zero crime area (an island), but if 'going to town' or leaving the county, always have one extra mag or speed strip for a revolver.
A very different environment than the urban areas I worked for so many years. Would bore some to tears.

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Thank you for the explanation. My paranoia level is low to the point that such a creation is not on my want list.

Well, if we can put the two of those guys together, that Church would have absolutely nothing to worry about.....

except the two of them.

And maybe evening of those scooters that "Paul Blart, Mall Cop" rode around the mall on.

Yeah, It's always like that with those guys.

Your actions are stupid, and theirs are completely justified.

Like LoboLeather said- (an ex cop and Nam Combat vet, TWO TOURS)- ( Welcome home, LOBO ) The man's actions were way above and beyond, but some people just can't even give him THAT much. They need to belittle his " "0-39" record, and turn THEMSELVES into the heroes, and the ones with all the knowledge. When three cops expend 90 rounds and hit nothing, there is also a perfectly reasonable explanation for THAT.

That should end this and the many more ammo load debates to come.

But then, nothing else to talk about.

Oh wait, except the USPS, UPS, millennials, bears, and people who cannot make change.

Added:
Flip phones and bumper jacks, thanks Rusty.

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You forgot flip phones and bumper jacks.

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I still have my blackjack, along w/my off duty Colt Cobra from 1968, & they will get passed down to my kids when I move on.

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I have one of those, too! My grandfather bought a Model 10 snub for off-duty, but when he found a Cobra for a bargain, the Smith went under the mattress. That Cobra was the first gun I carried.

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A d d e d.

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