I most always carry a Glock19 as my primary with two extra mags, if I'm traveling I carry two 30 rnd mags in the vehicle as well.

Just the mag in the gun.

That depends on where I'm/we are going. I always have my trusted M&P9 Pro with me, and locally I have only one extra magazine with me (34 rounds total). That should be plenty until the police gets there.

If we stay overnight, out of town, I'll have 4 magazines with me (68 rounds total). That's also what I used to have on my duty belt.

If we stay longer or go out of state, it's at least 4 magazines and two 50 round boxes (168 rounds total). Depends on my mood that day. Sometimes I take a long rifle too. They too want to get out of the house sometimes...

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Jorge

AJ: A great article that goes to your line of thinking.
“Carrying Multiple Guns:Why You Should - Handguns”
This was an article in the Handguns magazine that everyone would enjoy. I never gave any thought to the gun breaking.
Be sure to check your States laws. Some don’t permit it (2guns at once) ,so I’ve read.
Thanks again for your input !

Leaving next month on a long motorcycle tour through the south. I'll have a loaded 442 and one speed strip.

98% of you think I'll be under armed. I'll feel quite comfortable.

In the end that's all that matters!

I hear ya.

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Take down rifles work well.



And it depends how you define “long gun”. The ATF sure can’t make up its mind.

My Beretta CX-4 w/ 16" barrel and fixed stock (29"OAL) w/ extra mags and extra ammo fits nicely in a Ukulele case!


Allows me to easily ''tiptoe through the tulips....... or lobby"

We think alike. I brought my Glock 19 and two mags plus my 442-1 with two speedloaders and two speed strips

Throughout this weekend i’m just carrying the j frame and one strip with the other strip in the car

My Glock is just locked away at the cabin

Been traveling the mountains of NC like Linville and Marion and Old Fort and we even ventured into Tennessee doing the Tail of the Dragon

442-1 has been fine

It depends on where I'm traveling to.
East St. Louis? Nothing, because I'm never going there.
A general road trip to the mountains, desert, coast or family? Just my usual everyday carry load.
Camping in Grizzley bear country? Bear spray, 10 or 15 Brenneke Black Magic slugs in addition to some wildlife control rubber buckshot. And since the 12 gauge is already with me some 00 buckshot. Also, a 10mm pistol with 30 rounds.

Clint Smith use to work at Gunsite for Jeff Cooper. Cooper is who trained and tweaked our course of instruction.

A friend just sent me this:


Gunfight Rules

"Peace is that brief glorious moment in history when everybody stands around reloading."

In a gunfight, the most important rule is ... HAVE A GUN!

The following are shooting tips from various Concealed Carry Instructors. If you own a gun, you will appreciate these rules... If not, you should get one, learn how to use it, and learn the rules.



RULES



A.) Guns have only two enemies: Rust and Politicians. Rust can be prevented, Politicians cannot.



B.) It's always better to be judged by 12 than carried out by 6.



C.) Cops carry guns to protect themselves, not you



D.) Never let someone or something that threatens you get within 7 yards.



E.) Never say "I've got a gun." If you need to use deadly force, the first sound they should hear is the safety clicking off, or the hammer cocking.



F.) The average response time of a 911 call is 23 minutes ....when only seconds count; the response time of a .357 is 1,400 feet per second.



G.) The most important rule in a gunfight is: Always Win - there is no such thing as a fair fight. Always Win - cheat if necessary. Always Win - 2nd place doesn't count.



H.) Make your attacker advance through a wall of bullets ... you may get killed with your own gun, but they'll have to beat you to death with it because it will be empty.



I.) If you're in a gun fight:

(a) If you're not shooting, you should be reloading.

(b) If you're not reloading, you should be moving.

(c) If you're not moving, you're dead.



J.) In a life and death situation, do something ... it may be wrong, but do something!



K.) If you carry a gun, people will call you paranoid. Nonsense! If you have a gun, what do you have to be paranoid about?


L.) Never fire a warning shot, that is just one wasted bullet, which could be needed within moments.



M.) You can say "stop" or any other word, but a large bore muzzle pointed at someone's head is pretty much a universal language; and, you won't have to press 1 for Spanish/Mexican, or 2 for Chinese, or 3 for Arabic.



N.) Never leave a wounded enemy behind. If you have to shoot, shoot to kill. In court, yours will be the only testimony.



O.) You cannot save the planet, but you may be able to save yourself and your family.



If you believe in the 2nd Amendment, forward this to others you know who also believe.

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I carry a 38 unloaded and a bullet in my shirt pocket.

Hello, Barney!

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While I'm carrying, both my PC and BUG, PC is a full sized Gov't model the BUG is an Officers sized 1911. Each has a 7 round magazine with one in the chamber. I also carry 5 spare 7 round mags. I always have a box of 50 in the car or luggage if I'm traveling away from home, or, most likely, I'll just load up 10 spare mags and keep them in a magazine carrier.

I usually ccw a Glock 43 (6-round mag, 1 in the pipe) and when I’m traveling I’ll usually just toss in one spare magazine.

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Some Might Say.

Not singling out sousana or anyone else here......but after a week following this thread...... at what point do you say to yourself..... "If I think I may need this much ammo for a trip; maybe I should have brought a long gun!!!!! Or stayed home!

OP is going to visit his son...... decades ago I established a "stash of stuff" at my Parent's and think I will do the same at the Boys! Maybe 100rds of 9mm and two spare mags for each of my most carried guns 3913,6906 Beretta 92 Compact/Centurion.

Same as I carry at home , the gun and two reloads . The exception would be if I am carrying a larger capacity auto in which case it is one extra magazine.

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Grumpy Old Man With a Gun

No grenades ?

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I travel by car so I have small utility trailer for ammo and a large roll of tear off body bags.

I carry just enough to get where I'm going and get back home. So far that has worked for me.

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Life of the party until 8:00PM

The time it don't work will be the last trip. Larry

M&P Shield 9mm or 45acp, (one or the other, not both), one spare mag.

Where do your travels take you? Wyoming or Chicago? Are you on your own with a rental car or with friends or business partners? Plan on visiting the hood or the mountains? Not sure there is an answer that covers all the possibilities.

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We were just traveling last week, 2 K frame speed loaders, 1 J frame speed loader, and 1 speed strip.

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Don’t take this wrong but if you perceive the need to take a handgun and two spare mags as well as an AR with 4 or 5 loaded magazines, common sense dictates you just don’t go there in the first place.

And, in this case you’d have been packing all that allegedly defensive armament on to his property. That would not have looked at all reasonable in the eyes of local law enforcement if you had needed to defend yourself and shot the guy.

I carry a box of 50 rounds in the console safe in my Tacoma all the time. That’s a carry over from an event about 40 years ago where a state trooper responded to a roll over semi truck accident with a load of injured and broken legged cattle in the pot belly trailer. He didn’t have sufficient ammo to put them all down humanely.

It was one of the trucks owned by my uncle’s company and company policy from that day forward was a .357 and a full box of ammo in every truck.

At least in cattle country, there are times when you need more ammo than you’d normally carry.

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I normally carry one of my normal every day handguns plus a reload in the form of a loaded magazine or speed loader. Plus the above mentioned box of ammo, almost always a condensed plain cardboard “repack” box. On a longer road trip I’ll carry a back up gun in an ankle holster, mostly because it’s easy to draw when buckle in a vehicle.

There have been a couple times during periods of widespread civil unrest where you might not know quite what you’ll find a couple days and a thousand miles later that I have taken a take down carbine or braced pistol.


But there are a few things that I think are far more important:


1) If you *knowingly* go someplace where you feel the need to be armed with multiple spare mags, and or a long gun etc, you need to seriously rethink your need to go there. If it’s just on the route to your destination, replan your route.

2) What ever you take, leaving it in the glove compartment or any other unlocked place in your vehicle during your over night stop is not an acceptable practice. Period. Full stop.

Yes, it’s technically “locked” in your car and criminals should be more considerate of your property rights, but as a responsible gun owner there should be more than an easily broken window between a thief and your gun(s). If we as a community refuse to be more responsible about preventing gun thefts, more laws will be passed to mandate it.

3) It’s never a good idea to alarm the public. For example, if I travel with something scary looking, whether it’s during a period with mass protests, during a period of time unrest might be expected (verdict expected in an inflammatory criminal case, etc), or just to shoot recreationally at my destination I try not to advertise it.

A plain looking take down case with no gun logos is ok.



Something like this Ukelele case is even better.



4) Plan your route around areas where whatever you are carrying isn’t legal. If you have to go through a jurisdiction where it isn’t legal, comply fully with 18 USC 926(A) and don’t do anything that might provide probable cause for a stop.

18 USC 926(A):

“Notwithstanding any other provision of any law or any rule or regulation of a State or any political subdivision thereof, any person who is not otherwise prohibited by this chapter from transporting, shipping, or receiving a firearm shall be entitled to transport a firearm for any lawful purpose from any place where he may lawfully possess and carry such firearm to any other place where he may lawfully possess and carry such firearm if, during such transportation the firearm is unloaded, and neither the firearm nor any ammunition being transported is readily accessible or is directly accessible from the passenger compartment of such transporting vehicle: Provided, That in the case of a vehicle without a compartment separate from the driver’s compartment the firearm or ammunition shall be contained in a locked container other than the glove compartment or console.”

For those with poor reading comprehension and or who just read bullet points that means:

All firearms in question must be:

- unloaded;
- neither the firearms nor ammo can be readily accessible to the driver;
- they must be carried in a compartment in the vehicle separate from the driver’s compartment (trunk, etc);
- if no separate compartment is available they must be carried in a locked container; and
- cannot be carried in the glove compartment or center console, even if they are locked.

In addition, case law has held that the individual must remain on a direct route to their destination. That means you can’t:

- deviate off your direct route to visit a tourist attraction;
- spend more than one night in the same location during your travel through the jurisdiction; or
- travel more than a reasonable distance off your direct route for fuel, food or over night lodging. (A “reasonable distance” is generally held to be about a mile.)

And again, it’s important not to do anything that might create probable cause for a stop, as many law enforcement officers in those jurisdictions are either honestly or willfully ignorant of 18 USC 926(A) and/or are quite happy arresting you and letting the desk sergeant or district attorney sort it out, pleading ignorance later, after your car has been towed, weapons impounded and booking you into the local jail.

When I fly one box because airlines require a box of ammunition, no loose ammo.

When I drive, maybe one spare magazine for a pistol and one reload for a revolver. Maybe.

It's not any different than when I'm home.

And you cannot plan your route based on Federal law. It only applies with respect to flying. When you drive with firearms you're subject to local rules and if you think FOPA is going to protect you, well, dream on.

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Come and take it!!

Just got back from a long weekend in Cleveland OH

Had my 10+1 M&P Compact .45acp with 2 spare mags for a total of 31 rds of Federal 230gr HST+p

As a long time accumulator of 3rd Gen Smiths..... often when I travel but want to limit what I take.......
I'll swap out a 6904 w/ a flush fit (a 59 metal base plate) mag (or a mag with a ground back 59xx base plate) and 2 15rd mags with +2 adaptors.

This setup is only slightly thicker through the grip than my EDC 3913NL with Hogue Wood grips. Every Other dimension is the same on both guns.
But increases my ammo from 7+1+8 to 27+1 each with one extra mag. Or 43rounds if I have both extra mags. The 3913NL and 6904 both ride in a Milt Sparks Executive Companion holster.

I use the typical hard- or soft case for that and carry it into the hotel like everything else. I don't try to be discreet; I carry it in plain sight. If the hotel has an issue with it, they can come talk to me, but I damn sure won't leave it in the vehicle, in an unsecured parking lot, overnight. I can take my money somewhere else if it bothers them. So far, I've never had an issue.

Granted, haven't done that in D.C. or NY yet, but I would w/o hesitation.

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1 spare mag

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Is that a gun No a lifesaver

When I am out and about ,and or traveling, I keep my things organized, simple, and light. The revolver is loaded and one spare strip is filled. Access is super easy and super fast.

Retired, living in rural midwest. We rarely travel by air, and when we do it's generally Europe, so I just leave everything at home except my "get home gear", which stays in the car, always.

We do a fair amount of traveling by car/truck around the state and midwest, and we always have that emergency gear onboard, which includes a Ruger PC9 9mm carbine with the Glock mag adapter, and 3 30-round mags and 1 17-round. The gun is topped with a Vortex Crossfire II 1-4x30 with the illuminated dot reticle and a simple carry strap. Additionally, there is a SigSauer P365 w/ 1 12-round mag and 2 10-round. All mags are loaded with 124gr JHP, and another 50 round box is in the bag.

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Ain't This Fun Though?

Most of you guys travel pretty light! That is all I’m gonna say.

I rarely fly. Driving around the USA I'll take two or three Glocks and several magazines for each.

For my part, I don’t change the quantity of ammo I carry based on how far I’m traveling. It’s the same whether I’m going to the store or going on vacation.

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I answered this a year ago. At this point, if just traveling for a weekend visit, I would have my usual Two carry guns and plenty of extra ammo. For my Four Months in Florida during the Winter, I add Three more guns and approximately 1000 rounds for the Range. I never fly.

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Two Handguns every day

Usually carry my Colt LW Commander with 2 spare mags. Depending on where Im going the DW Razorback with 10 mags or my banjo case with a shorty AR and 5-6 30 rnd. mags with 28 rnds in each. Have all the emergency get home stuff stored in Highlander.

All depends on where I am going. EDC changes somewhat but is usually one of a couple of striker fired medium to hi capacity .9mm auto's with a spare mag. sometimes just going to the store it's a J frame with a spare reload. When we go on the road, I usually take at least a J frame and one or more of my larger capacity semi auto's with spare mags. When camping, I often take a shotgun or an AR-15 as well. I am in the process of building a short .9mm carbine that takes Glock Mags as a HD, car gun for road trips. All things change depending on need, purpose and duration.

I see this thread made the rounds about this time last year. I didn't read it then but it has gained a little new life in the last couple days and I'm caught up. I'm with Sgt. Buzzard. How many gunfights could I possibly encounter in one motorcycle trip anyway?

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Beautiful Citabria. I got my tail wheel endorsement almost thirty years ago in an Aeronca 7DC and later flew a Citabria. Some of the most fun flying I’ve ever done.

Just what’s in the gun.

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“What you got, ain’t new.”

Same here.

Seven is the round count.

I shall not counteth six unless I then proceedeth to seven.

Eight is right out!

(if it takes more than that you good folks can hold a seance and tell me "I told you so!")

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The old timers said the way to correctly gauge the correct charge for a muzzle loader was put ball on sheet of paper and pour powder on top of ball until covered.
I also heard the way to figure out how much ammo you need is to pour into your tin foil hat until full. Once gauged you can put in speed loaders, ammo wallets, bandoliers, and pockets.

I bring the same weather driving, flying, or just going to Walmart. Since I always wear a shoulder rig, in addition to what’s in the gun, I either have two speed loaders or two speed strips for my revolvers, or two mags for my autos.

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Most of my flying is on company business, so I've never taken any firearms along for the ride.

When I travel to CT to visit the kids/grandkids, its my EDC (640-1Pro) with 2 extra speed strips and 2 full boxes of ammo as I usually try to get to the range during these visits.

I also typically bring a second handgun - either my Kimber Ultra Carry or 66-4 - with 2 more boxes of ammo.

My only "difficulty" is that I have to stop of the PA side of the PA/NY border to "unstrap" and lock everything away for the 80mile trip across NY into CT as NY State does not recognize my OH permit. I also have a non-resident CT permit so I can then take a deep breath again once I cross the NY/CT state line.

…with that inside the suitcase. In original box in which ammo was purchased.

Both the gun/ammo case and the suitcase are hard sided and locked. With TSA, locks to be specific.

Be safe.

When I travel with my EDC my load out is the same as it is whenever I leave my home to go about my everyday business.

Pistol, holster, spare magazine.

Is your Ohio permit valid in Pa. now? It did not use to be. I had to laugh as I visit a friend in Pa. once a year. My Fla. permit is good from Fla to Pa driving. I could carry in Pa or Ohio (he lives 10 miles from the border). He could not carry in Ohio, as the two states did not have reciprocity at the time.

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