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Old 06-03-2010, 05:21 PM
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I traded my P22 in for a Ruger Mark III Standard. I shot the P22 for about a year. My neighbor has a nice Mark III he let me shoot. I found my P22 was not as accurate and had problems cycling some ammo.
So anyway, I traded the P22 for the Ruger+$100. Maybe a bad idea, as I paid $300 for the P22, but I like how the Mark III feels and shoots much better.
Is there a red dot sight that fits on the Mark III without any drilling?
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P.S. My wife is pissed because she liked the P22 better.
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Old 06-03-2010, 05:41 PM
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I own a MKII heavy barrel (5.5") and my brother owns a P22 which have shot often. I found the P22 could have some problems with cycling ammo like you did. But, I found it to be a great plinker. The MKII is a more accurate. Someone (B-square maybe) makes a scope ring base that slides over the body of the action. I've seen them mounted and they appear to be solid. There are a lot of trick items for the Mk II's and Mk III's.
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Old 06-03-2010, 07:31 PM
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I have a P22, Ruger MKII and a 22/45, and a Browning Buckmark. I really like my P22. Plenty accurate, fun to shoot, been very reliable with good ammo, and my wife really likes to shoot it too. But, the P22 is not near in the same class as either of the Rugers or Browning.
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Old 06-03-2010, 08:02 PM
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So do you think that was a good deal on my part?
I put about 1500 rounds through the P22 and took really good car of it.
Don't get me wrong, I liked the P22. I justed liked the accuracy of the Mark III.
I feel stupid that I have gone through 2 other models of .22LR.
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Old 06-03-2010, 08:14 PM
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It's all subjective, but I've shot a P22 and the Ruger is far superior. You made the right choice, now forget about it and go out and enjoy your gun!
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They're two different types of guns. The P22 is more "pistol" like while the Ruger is more of a target type gun. I was just looking at the Browning Buckmark vs. the Ruger Mark III and my husband said, "Trade in the P22." Nope. They are two different types of guns. So I walked away from the Buckmark (which I had opted for over the Ruger). I was actually considering trading the XD 45 for the Buckmark but then I realized I was acting completely nuts.
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My wife prefers the ruger heavy barrel over the p22. I just use them both. The p22 gets carried more, especially in the pocket of my overalls when I ride a tractor or 4-wheeler.
I picked up a used p22 for $250 for my son. It was shot less than mine, but didn't have any feeding issues from the start.
Plunky's wife is P.O., BarbC is acting completly nuts--I detect a trend here.
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Old 06-04-2010, 09:22 AM
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You need to get a base first and then you can put any kind of pistol scope or dot that you want. As far as comparison there is none. The Ruger is much much better 22 handgun. I have two Mark II's and the Walther. The Walther is fun to shoot but if you want to hit anything with accuracy the Rugers are tops.

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Old 06-04-2010, 09:26 AM
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I have both of the guns you mentioned, and the Ruger is far superior in my estimation. The P22 is a "training" gun for the larger Walther/S&W pistols. It is a smaller, slimmed down, low recoil plinker. I really like the mag release on the P22, and it is very easy to carry. I have occasionally stuck my daughter's in my pocket when working in the yard or walking. However, I'd sell it in a heartbeat if it were mine.

My Ruger Mk II's are totally different weapons, as has been said. The Rugers are far heavier, far more accurate (for me), and are designed more as target/plinking weapons. The Rugers are more reliable with a wide range of ammo (for me), will not wear out in normal use (neither will the Walther), and probably sell more in a year than the P22 has since it was introduced.

Both weapons have gizmos and gadgets available, the P22 has several from Walther to support their users. But the Ruger has an entire cottage industry to build parts and pieces for it. Several companies specialize in making nothing but Ruger accessories.

Look at Midway or Brownell's for your red dot mount. Clark Custom Guns, Volquartsen, and others make high-quality upgrade triggers and such for them as well. I can never remember the name of the company, but there is someone out there making complete aluminum uppers for the Rugers that look great. Whenever I can find them again, I think I'll order one for my antique Mk II.

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All new MarkIII's come with a base to hook up rings and scope.
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I have both of the guns you mentioned, and the Ruger is far superior in my estimation. The P22 is a "training" gun for the larger Walther/S&W pistols. It is a smaller, slimmed down, low recoil plinker. I really like the mag release on the P22, and it is very easy to carry. I have occasionally stuck my daughter's in my pocket when working in the yard or walking. However, I'd sell it in a heartbeat if it were mine.

My Ruger Mk II's are totally different weapons, as has been said. The Rugers are far heavier, far more accurate (for me), and are designed more as target/plinking weapons. The Rugers are more reliable with a wide range of ammo (for me), will not wear out in normal use (neither will the Walther), and probably sell more in a year than the P22 has since it was introduced.

Both weapons have gizmos and gadgets available, the P22 has several from Walther to support their users. But the Ruger has an entire cottage industry to build parts and pieces for it. Several companies specialize in making nothing but Ruger accessories.

Look at Midway or Brownell's for your red dot mount. Clark Custom Guns, Volquartsen, and others make high-quality upgrade triggers and such for them as well. I can never remember the name of the company, but there is someone out there making complete aluminum uppers for the Rugers that look great. Whenever I can find them again, I think I'll order one for my antique Mk II.

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Highlander,
Was the upper you are thinking of the tactical solutions PAC-LITE?

I too have both of these guns and would also agree the p22 is a trainer whereas the mk3 is a target/ Competition gun

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You did good Plunky, the Ruger is a darn good pistol.
And as stated the Ruger is already drilled and tapped for a scope base for red dots or regular scopes.
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So do you think that was a good deal on my part?
I put about 1500 rounds through the P22 and took really good car of it.
Don't get me wrong, I liked the P22. I justed liked the accuracy of the Mark III.
I feel stupid that I have gone through 2 other models of .22LR.
Don't worry, before long you will be shooting a 41.
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At least one red dot, the Burris FastFire, can be even more cleanly and elegantly mounted than by clamping it on a Weaver or Picatinny rail --- a base can be had that drifts into the rear sight dovetail, and the red dot sight screw-mounted neatly to this base. I think that perhaps Leupold's red dot can be similarly mounted, and maybe others as well. A much cleaner installation than the rail and clamp system...
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It's all subjective, but I've shot a P22 and the Ruger is far superior. You made the right choice, now forget about it and go out and enjoy your gun!
My P-22 is long gone! Have a couple MKII's and a MKIII all purchased used. Very durable and accurate guns that can be significantly upgraded with parts from Volquartsen and others.

If your MKIII isn't drilled for the Ruger Weaver rail, Weigand makes a trick scope mount that requires no drilling, just removal of the back sight. I have one on a MKII that my wife shoots all the time.
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I got to tell you guys, the Ruger 22 automatic pistol is THE definitive .22 semi auto. Period. End of story. Ruger got this one right from jump street. The only things I disliked in the original were fixed in the MK II the scalloped receiver and the last shot hold open. The MK III fixed things that didn't need fixin-but oh well.
Sorry guys, but I'll take a ruger with a Clark trigger over a Model 41 any day of the week.
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My Ruger mark III came with Crimson Trace grips. I bought it used so I can't say it was sold that way.
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