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01-03-2014, 11:06 AM
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1860 Henry rifle Henry vs Uberti
If this is in the wrong place for such a thread please forgive me.
I always have liked the older toggle link Winchester rifles. I owned a 1873 repo made by Uberti for a while but had to sell it to pay for bills and such (we all know how it goes.) Anyways I would really like to get my hands eventually on another toggle link.
Being a Lonesome Dove fan I really am drawn to the 1860 Henry and was delighted to see and advertisement that Henry Repeating Arms is now producing an actually copy of the 1860 made right here. The bad news is it has a MSRP of $2300 vs Uberti's $1300. I was just curious if anyone had a chance to compare the two rifles side by side. Made in America adds a lot of value to me, but not a $1000 value if the rifles are otherwise equal.
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I was surprised at the new American made Henry's high price. But I would get a uberti/Cimarron. Take a close look at the bottom of the new Henry rifle's receiver at the toggle over the trigger. It has a weird shape unlike real or the Uberti Henrys, though it's subtle. Years a go I looked at Cimarron's website and know I saw Henrys in .44 special. But not anymore and Cimarron told me they knew nothing about them. If a Cimarron Henry came in .44 Special I'd own one already. I like the military versions in brass, of course, but with the bare metal barrels.
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01-03-2014, 12:26 PM
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I don't remember Henrys in 44 Special, but I know they made 66s in 44 Special. Several cowboy shooters had the cartridge stop modified so they worked with Russian. 44 Russian being right there, size and power-wise, with 44 Henry.
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01-03-2014, 02:34 PM
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1860 Henry Rifle
Purchased a Uberti Henry in .45 cal with the brass receiver and butt plate from Cabellas about seven years ago. It is a safe queen and never fired it. I take it out every year to lubricate and it returns to my safe. I paid about $900.00 then and it has increased in value. You can't beat the value of a rifle that has served in the Civil War and settlers moving west in the 1800s. I saw the ad for the new Henrys and was floored by the price. I would check Cabellas if they are still available.
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01-03-2014, 02:38 PM
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I don't remember Henrys in 44 Special, but I know they made 66s in 44 Special. Several cowboy shooters had the cartridge stop modified so they worked with Russian. 44 Russian being right there, size and power-wise, with 44 Henry.
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I have always wanted a Henry or an 1866 in a centerfire cartridge closer to the .44 Henry rimfire. A .44-40 wasn't quite right. I figured a .44 Russian was pretty close. A .44 Russian cartridge case loaded with a 200 grain flat nose bullet, and call it a .44 New Henry cartridge. I'd buy one, especially if it was made in the USA.
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01-03-2014, 02:52 PM
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dont know about henry but uberti has ample aftermarket parts available, such as short stroke kits and lighter springs and carrier, different sight options etc.
they're not necessary ,until you compare your stock rifle with a slicked up one
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Yep, I about stroked out  when I saw the new Henry price  .
I've had a Navy Arms/Uberti "Iron Frame" Henry in .45Colt for...I don't know, about 8-10 years? Mine's just a few gentle range trips short of safe queen. I used my Marlin Cowboy Rifle...also in .45Colt, for the occasional Cowboy match  ...
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To me, the amazing part of the original Henry Rifle is that the barrel/magazine assembly was all one piece of metal fabricated without today's modern machinery, tools, and computer whiz-gear.
I have a Uberti Henry in .44-40. I shoot CAS. The cartridge follower "follows" down the barrel as rounds are expended and requires a "hand adjustment" as it comes in contact with the holding hand.
Plus, the safest method I have found to load a Henry is to lay the barrel horizontal and simply place one cartridge at a time into the tube. Successive cartridges will push the preceding one further "south". NEVER, and I re-iterate, NEVER let the follower slam down into the loaded cartridges. ALWAYS, and I repeat, ALWAYS control the follower softly onto the cartridges.
A fast moving Henry follower will slam fire one or more cartridges in the magazine. Especially unnerving when you are holding the rifle upright with magazine facing you and losing the grip on the follower with one of the cartridges exploding right in front of your face......
Because there is no barrel and rifling there is no pressure and the cartridge case split into the shape of the open magazine. Luckily the shooter/loader was wearing shooting glasses and luckily no cartridge shards of brass went into his (my) face.............
My greatest horror was that I might have "broke" my gun since this was the first time I shot it........
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Take a close look at the bottom of the new Henry rifle's receiver at the toggle over the trigger. It has a weird shape unlike real or the Uberti Henrys, though it's subtle.
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You must have better eyes than me. I am looking and looking but don't see a difference, at least not with the pictures on the website.
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01-06-2014, 11:32 AM
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I went with the Uberti/Cimarron Iron frame. Worked well and I have no complaints. 44/40 by the way.
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I use my Uberti 1860 Henry in .45 Colt at CAS matches and have for several years. Am I the fastest guy on the line? Nope. But I do have fun and get lots of style points. Mine has been flawless, function-wise. I was fortunate in that I bought it from the Cimarron dealer at a SASS annual convention. There were a lot of dealers there and most had a Henry or two on site. Most of these were likely made by Uberti. After checking them all out, I found one with a very smooth action. I arranged to buy THAT ONE, not just that model. It was shipped to my local dealer after the convention.
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