A Knife for the Bug Out Bag?

I always have a Gerber Multi-tool or a SAK on me, except when in shower or bed( and a few times then too). In the B-O-B there is a M-3 Ka-Bar. In the truck all kinds of cutting things. The M-3 will hold up to a lot more than just cutting, It will pound, pry and(cringe) dig as well as any other "survival" Knife and lots better than the deer camp knives. I'm at 3 WWII or Korea aged M-3's and a 1980's production knife. No comparison! When my oldest delayed enlisted in the Army in 1998, he found a older M-3 that served the same family in the Pacific Islands, Korea, and Vietnam. He used it as a Blackhawk crew chief in Iraq, and it has been to Afghanistan with 2 other men. A real good knife can serve several generations. Ivan

The M-3 is the trench knife that was morphed into the M-4 carbine bayonet. (M-4 is the bayonet, not the current 5.56mm carbine). Do you mean the real M-3 or are you talking bout the wider Ka-Bar, introduced for Marines and as the Navy MK II?

In WW II photos, you'd most often see the M-3 on a paratrooper's boot.
 
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Texas Star, You got me upset I think. I went upstairs to check, and all I find is the 1980's junk Ka-Bar and one of the older knives. It is not the same it is a bit thinner steel not as long or deep. All in all it is more graceful. The one is in the truck, and that means one is AWOL, We have a wedding here next week so I'll see where the other knife is. Thanks for pointing that out! Ivan
The one my son took to Iraq was definitely a USMC knife. Thanks again!
 
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I have been advised that hunting type sheath knives are not a problem.
But the top edge sharpened on the Mod 14 might be an issue, so I think I will take my Randall Mod 5, with its 6" blade instead. I have used this knife quite a bit while hunting and butchering game.
 
Thanks, guys. I appreciate all the information and the experience with various knives. It's obvious that lots of people besides myself have given considerable thought about what to carry in an emergency.

I'm surprised that so many carry pretty large knives. My somewhat limited experience has been that anything up to about 5 inches at the max is plenty long for everything I want to do and may be somewhat clusmy for cleaning small game like bunnies for the pot.

Thanks, Smith 357 for the suggestion fo a tomahawk. That hadn't occured to me. I think a light axe of some kind, or hatchet, would be very handy around camp. I'd like one with some sort of sheath over the cutting edge, though, so I don't lose a finger getting it out. Buck made one and also T. M. Dowell ($$$$), probably others. And thanks, T-Star, for the suggestion fo a machete; as a teen-ager in Connecticut I worked summers for a surveryor, and we used machetes for cutting lines of sight in the brush. Ours were Collins, made in Collinsville, but probably now made in Guatamala. We used 18 inch blades, but I think the suggestion of a shorter one would be very handy, except perhaps around thorn bushes or poison ivy. I don't know which one would be more useful, a machete or light axe; gotta think about that some more.

I wonder if it would be possible to combine the functions of a camp hatchet and a machete into something like a large bolo knife? Has anyone tried this? Does any maker produce a large bolo? Feedback?

I like the Swiss Army Knife, whith lots of tools on it, however it duplicates the Leatherman already in the bug out bag. I daily pocket a smaller SAK, and find I use the tools more than the blade; the blades seem to be made of soft, malleable steel. And I keep a large SAK in the range bag and another in the bag I take to gun shows. I've used them both. I'd like a couple more; one for the glove compartement of both the car and truck. I don't need the corkscrew; don't think I'll be opening too many wine bottles in an emergency. I'd rather have the Phillips head screwdriver that fits into the same space in the knife.

Thanks, Cougar14 for the suggestion of a sharpening stone. I hadn't thought of that one. I have a Wustoff sharpener in the kitchen but a small, double sided stone would be good to take with me for knives, machetes and axes.

T-Star; great minds run in the same path. When I go out in the desert I usually carry a six inch barreled Ruger Security Six. I keep it sighted in for 100 yards with the Federal 125 gr load, and found it wasn't too difficult to hit a silhouette target at that range, two handed hold. It gets easier with practice. I did the same with a Colt Serias 70 in 45, and a Glock 17, both with adjustable slights, but it was a lot harder with them. Never underestimate the long range capabilities of a handgun, the longer the barrel the better (I haven't tried this yet with an 8 3/8 inch Model 27-2). It gives considerable stand-off cpability and would be an unpleasant surprise to a rifleman who thought he was out of range. Concerning knives, I'll have to take another look at the Fallkniven S-1. It's at about what I consider the maximum length at 5 inches, and I like a little more drop to the point, but I'll look at them again.

I haven't even opened the question of what kind of cleaning equipment I need for my Glock 17 or Colt M4 carbine. The Glock is pretty bullet proof but AR 15 type firearms need more TLC. Maybe I should carry an AK 47 instead; they're a lot more reliable with limited care. Hard to mount a red dot sight on one, though. I wonder if something like the Stevens over-under would be more practical, something like a 30-30 for the upper and 12 gauge full choke for the lower. Could get plenty of small game with the shotgun and medium game with the 30-30, while light cast bullet handloads wold be useful for small game. Again, hard to mount a red dot. Anybody tried one of these for a survival rifle?
 
Give Esee knives a look. I have an Esee 5 and this Junglas.
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I saw several references to having fixed blades on ones belt or pack so I thought I would share a little tidbit of info I gained with my survival knife while being a crewman in the Coast Guard choppers. First, my belt was not an option. Flight suits do not come with belts and cover your normal belt if you have one under your suit. Poor access at the very best.
Second try was strapped to my leg. Worked OK ,but I did run across problems a couple of times. It was always a threat to get bumped and the snap would undo. After having it fall out of the sheath and settle on the threshold of the cargo door one day as we were doing practice hoists over one of the 82 footers, I decided to find a new spot.
The best spot I found was sewn to the front of my survival vest just left of the zipper. Never came loose. It was instinctive to grab and required minimal motion to retrieve.
All that just to say, think about the function your different knives will play and place them accordingly. Go through actual functions with them and see if your idea of what they will do agree with reality. I always had 4 knives with me while flying. My 24/7 pocket knife, my everyday work knife, a switch blade shroud cutter (in a thigh pocket with the cord stuck out of the velcro) and my survival knife. All different uses and different access times depending on the situation.
I guess this is more than my $.02 so we will call it a dimes worth.
Larry
 
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I'm not bugging out either, I have too much stuff to carry and I'd hate to see the "zombies" end up with it. A good choice would be a Randall Model #18.

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When I think B O B, I think tornado or other disaster, not zombies. Besides my first aid kit (including syringes, surgical tools, etc.) I don't think you can go wrong with the Ka-bar USMC M2. I'm also thinking of adding an Ontario M3 trench knife.

CW
 
I like the ESEE 3 (~$110)and the Becker BK2(~$80). Both are excellent and heavy-duty. In the ESEE, there are longer blades if you want them.
 
It's certainly fun to speculate and play the BOB game with all the big honkin' high dollar knives, but remember that people like Nessmuk spent months at a time in the backcountry with nothing more than a two bladed slipjoint pocketknife, a relatively small belt knife, and a hand axe. That was the essential equipment of all woodsmen of the past, at a time when civilization was a long way off.

A Mora and a boy's axe or hatchet (Council still makes nice ones in the USA) are very practical and as useful today as the tools our forefathers used. Between the two of those you'd have less than $100 invested--and both are quality tools. Toss in a Leatherman or the like and you're covered for a whole bunch of stuff.

I don't have that exact setup, nor do I have a a "BOB", but I do have Grandad's old Craftsman boy's axe (push-thru-paper sharp), an old Western Cutlery L71 USN marked sheath knife and a Leatherman in the truck, along with a few other tools.

Fact is, many would be better served thinking about how much necessary medicine they could carry with them...
 
It's certainly fun to speculate and play the BOB game with all the big honkin' high dollar knives, but remember that people like Nessmuk spent months at a time in the backcountry with nothing more than a two bladed slipjoint pocketknife, a relatively small belt knife, and a hand axe.

I hope never to have to completely rely on a knife but should that ever happen, I'd want the best knife I could get my hands on. Guns can break or malfunction and ammunition can be impossible to obtain but a knife is always available to go to work.
 
I hope never to have to completely rely on a knife but should that ever happen, I'd want the best knife I could get my hands on. Guns can break or malfunction and ammunition can be impossible to obtain but a knife is always available to go to work.

I agree with that, but after a point in the quality game you're paying for more than intrinsic quality. A knife like a Mora is about as tough as it gets and they're tested daily in very trying conditions.
 
Thanks, Oldiron; I hadn't considered access. I'll have to include that in the future.

Taroman: I have a Glock field knife (and two Glock pistols,down from four a few years ago), and I don't think it's long enough or heavy enough for a combination m achete and hatchet, and it's too long for everything else.
 
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I keep all in my Chevy Blazer, as I'm not walking unless I need to....

Now I just need to find a good way to conceal the Remington 11-87....
 
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