Caliber: 9.3 x 62.....

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.....Seems to be a very interesting caliber.
What are your experiences with the 9.3 x 62? It appears to be on par with the .35 Whelen. Probably a little more powerful than the Whelen.
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I've got a couple of x57s, but not a x62.

I hear, though, that it is easier to get ammo for a x62.
 
It's a thumper. Comparable to the 338 Win Mag, 375H&H, 404..

Also called the German 338

The minimum for hunting the big 5 in Africa is 375H&H but often there is an exception for the 9.3x62
 
A 30-06 length case w/a .366 bullet. It does use the slightly larger in dia case head then the standard Mauser x57 series does.
The 6.5 Swede Mauser is another that shares that small difference.
The case head at the base is something like .480d on these. On a standard Mauser (or 30-06 type) it's .471d.
Some say it means nothing and make brass from 30-06 allowing it to expand to fit the chamber at that point,,others adhere to the specs and use the correct brass. Pick sides and join the argument.

Components/bullets are much easier to find now than even a few years ago. Mostly due to the flood of Scandinavian Mauser sporters in 9.3 imported and sold in the US and Canada and the acceptance of the calibers overall with new commercial rifles chambered for it.

It's a good one, but nothing that can't be replaced by something else around. That can be said for most any caliber.
If you like it,,buy one and have fun.

I have a 9.3x 57 on a Steyr New Model and a 9.3x74R D/R.
I shoot more Makarov jacketed pistol bullets through them than the big stuff probably.
10gr of RedDot launches them nicely and at 50yrs they are both very accurate.
 
All I know about the 9.3 X 62 is what I have read in a few magazine
articles. I think Speer makes one bullet in that dia. It seems that most
of the rifles are built on the pre 98 Mauser actions like the Swede so
pressure and performance are modest. Apparently chamber dimensions
can vary quite a bit between different rifles so handloading could be
a challenge.
 
I thought it was 9.3x64 that was the more powerful round? The 62 was found in older drillings and such and in the 38-55 class far as ballistics.

It's a thumper. Comparable to the 338 Win Mag, 375H&H, 404..

Also called the German 338

The minimum for hunting the big 5 in Africa is 375H&H but often there is an exception for the 9.3x62
 
"It's a thumper. Comparable to the 338 Win Mag, 375H&H, 404."

What?

Not to be disagreeable but the 9.3x62 is essentially (although not exactly) a 30-'06 expanded to take a .366" bullet. It is comparable to the 35 Whelan. The 338 WM is more powerful, the 375 H&H is much more powerful, and the 404 Jeffery is off the chart more powerful.

If you visit forums dedicated to hunting and sporting rifles you'll find there is a cult following for these European calibers.
 
Love the caliber... Bullets are all over the place, if you're willing to shop the internet. Among our more common makers, Speer, Nosler and Hornady all offer bullets to the handloader. I've had good luck with Nosler, but the Speer is a bit less money when just poking paper (99 %, for me).

I also own & shoot the .375 H&H, but in a different rifle/stock the perception of recoil and/or power can't really be noticed. My 9.3 is an CZ 550, and the .375 is an Sako AV III. Really both good rounds, and the factory loads for the 9.3x62 by Prvi Partizan (sp.?) have given me good and reliable brass without overwhelming initial cost. I would say the caliber rates right around the .338 Win., maybe a bit more, but not quite as flat shooting.

If it has caught your fancy, there's little to say against it. Pick one up & enjoy!
 
Not looking for any arguments, so I just copied this quickly from the first 'hit' I got off google. Taken from a Chuck Hawks page;
The 9.3x62 gives the same performance as the 9.3x74R, but at a higher pressure level and, even more importantly, in a cartridge with an overall length that allows its use in a standard bolt action rifles. No need for larger actions such as those needed for the legendary .416 Rigby and .375 H&H. The 9.3x62 proved to be a near perfect "all-around" cartridge for the Dark Continent and also proved its merit in Europe and elsewhere. It became popular for use on the large European wild boar, moose, brown bear and polar bear. For use on CXP3 game and with bullets of similar SD, it is similar to the American .35 Whelen; for use on CXP4 game, it is superior to the .35 Whelen due to its ability to handle larger diameter bullets (.366") of greater SD.

Typical 9.3x62 factory loads drive a 286 grain bullet at a muzzle velocity of about 2360 fps with 3544 ft. lbs. of muzzle energy. Other loads are available with various bullets weighing 232 grains, 250 grains and 325 grains.
 
The venerable 9.3x62 is a great and historiied round that has proven itself for over a century. As mentioned above, it's not far behind the great 375 H&H and provides the use of the 06's action length and mag capacity. I have had 3:

Sauer 202
Sako AV
M70 Classic stainless - custom
 
I doubt anything you kill with this round notices the difference from any other full bore caliber. ;)
 
Hi,

I have a 9.3x62 custom made on a Mauser 98 system (Argentine Mauser 1909) with a 52cm-barrel. It's use is for wild boar, for which it is a proven cartridge over here in Germany (had not the chance to shoot one up to now, so the rifle saw use only on the range). It's very accurate despite the short barrel, and it kicks a bit more than a 30-06. My favorite round is a handload with 195 grs semi jacketed bullets (intended for the old and weak 9.3x72R) and 56 grs VV N130.

As for the system: Most of the 9.3x62 here in Europe are built on the Mauser 98 not the Swedish Mauser 96 system.
 
I thought it was 9.3x64 that was the more powerful round? The 62 was found in older drillings and such and in the 38-55 class far as ballistics.

There's any number of 9.3cal rifle rounds. The Sako rounds mentioned are just the start.

The ones that have been around a while but not noticed much in the USA till recently:

The 9.3x64 (Brenneke) is higher up on the power chart than the 9.3x62.

The x64 Brenneke uses a case with a larger base dia then the latter. The Brenneke base is within few .000"d of what the belted magnum cases are just in front of the 'belt'. About all you can stuff into a staggered mag 98 Mauser w/o doing some major surgery to the action.

The x62 uses the 6.5 Swede Mauser case head size ( just a few 000" larger than the standard 30-06.
Case length the same as the 30-06. (62mm)

The 9.3x72R is an old man of the group. A rimmed BP round originally and this is one found chambered in many older drillings, single shots and doubles. It is a very long slim tapered case. No bottle neck to it at all,,all taper. Ballistics generally compared to the 38-55. There's also a 9x72R. I have a German double rifle in 9.3x72R built on a light frame action. Nice little rifle, would do well for deer and such up to 100yrds I'd guess.

The 9.3x74R is the big rimmed bottle neck case for single shot and D/Rifles. Often compared to the 375H&H in performance. Mine deffinetly knocks you around w/ factory ammo, but the rifle (DR) only weighs about 7#. Much more comfy to shoot w/ Makarov pistol bullets and RedDot.
Looks cool anyway at the range...
 
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The 9.3X62mm was designed for use in the German African colonies, Tanganyika and German SW Africa, now Tanzania and Namibia. After WW I, the former became a British colony and the latter was administered by South Africa. However, German is still spoken widely in Namibia.

As far as I know, the round was intended for use in '98 actions, and I don't know of any earlier std. factory rifles ever chambered for 9.3X62mm. Same for the more potent 9.3X64mm. I wouldn't chamber older rifles for either load.

Frank C. Barnes', Cartridges of the World is the std. reference for matters like this. But John Taylor in, African Rifles and Cartridges also spoke very well of the 9.3X62mm. Bear in mind that most colonists, German or British, were using iron sights and shooting within 200 yards.

I think Taylor's comments on the .303 were about the old MK VI load and the softpoint equivalent. Its 215 grain bullet wouldn't shoot as flat as the later MK VII load with 174-180 grain sporting versions. Otherwise, I think everything Taylor wrote there was in agreement with what other hunters in Africa said.

Maybe ten years ago, Peter Hjortberger, president of Fallkniven Knives in Sweden told me that he used a 6.5X55mm rifle on moose, but that brown bears were moving into his hunting grounds and he'd added a 9.3X62mm in case he might have to shoot an aggressive bear.

Another Swede I know on the Net told me today that where she lives, further south, she isn't worried about most animals, and roe deer get into her garden. But she's wary of wild boar. Many like the 9.3mm ctgs. for those.

One major issue with using it in the USA is that your dealer (not Wal-Mart) will probably have to locate and order the ammo. Or, you can order, if you find a retail source. But it's not going to be routinely available here.
 
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Thanks for all the reply's.
This is the rifle I had my eye on. Sauer 101 Scandic 9,3 x 62.
It will be used primarily for bear hunting.
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"... it is superior to the .35 Whelen due to its ability to handle larger diameter bullets...

Ah yes, the .366 is so much bigger and superior to the .358 of the 35 Whelan. Chuck Hawks cracks me up sometimes...
 
9.3X62 does it all.

I bought my Sako V just before Nosler began stocking, (I called and bugged them), their new ballistic tip in 9.3mm at 250 grain with a ballistic coefficient of .494 going at 2500fps. I have taken Americas Antelope, Mule Deer, Elk, crows and groundhogs with that round all having the immediate result of dead by massive trauma. The round is attributed to Otto Bock during the first decade of the last century to be used by farmers in Africa in the inexpensive mauser's to counter animals higher up the food chain than are encountered in Europe. It is very easy to load well, a lot of components available today. Last note, today Otto Bock manufactures some of the best prosthetics in the world, I know, I own one of those also.
 

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