Now I've done it...I'm getting a PLASTIC GUN

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I'm missing a striker fired gun. Most are boring; lacking character and soul, but they make fine working guns and I could use something to beat up on and shoot a bunch without concern.

So, after much deliberation, I put an HK VP9 on layaway today.
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Other considerations were the M&P Pro, Glock 34 Gen4, and Canik TP9SA. The HK feels best, shoots smoothest, and I haven't fired an HK I don't like. They've all had match like accuracy in my hands, and the ergos are perfect for me. Every one I've fired has felt like I've owned it all my life. So, it was an easy choice, though I had to consider them all before putting my money down.

This will be my first and only polymer framed pistol (aside from a Ruger 22/45) and the first and only striker fired gun. It may as well be my favorite.

The M&P's have a funky feel for me. The smaller backstrap that feels best leaves my finger too close to the trigger. They also don't shoot as smooth as I'd expect. They a have a reputation for inconsistent accuracy and the overall feel of the gun doesn't work for me.

The Glock I respect for their simplicity, popularity, and innovation. That said, even with the best backstrap option they point a bit wrong, and the trigger safety creates an annoying pressure point over extended shooting. The stock sights are cheap. I like how the gun locks my hand into place and they shoot well for me, but they always point in the wrong direction and I find myself adjusting to the gun. To the Glock faithful that's part of "perfection," but there's no gun out there I'm willing to work around so significantly. I also believe they are overpriced for what they are. The LEO pricing is right on, but it's been a long time since I'd qualify.

The Canik TP9SA is very tempting in that it offers a lot of gun for the money. The gun feels solid enough, albeit a little cheap feeling, but they appear to perform quite well. As much as I like it the reach to the trigger is too short and the hump on the backstrap is too narrow for my tastes. This is nitpicking but the human interface is important, especially when doing a lot of firing. The little annoyances only amplify in live fire. Interesting and I like it, but pass. I don't like compromise.

The HK fits my hand like it was made for it, locks me securely into position, has an excellent trigger out of the box, a refined feel, and had excellent shooting characteristics.

I've always said that H&K makes the best polymer framed pistols out there. I guess I oughta put my money where my mouth is.
 
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I did that once. No soul at all to them. Eventually got a AA .22 upper for it and I use them to start non shooters in the fun. Once they get used to it I hand them my HiPower and listen to the exclamations. Glad you found one you like though.
 
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One just went through a little torture test and didn't quite live up to the HK legacy. A few things that went bad were more luck than anything else but surprisingly it took very little mud/debris to completely lock it up and put it out of action. Still its a nice gun.
 
I have not yet been able to bring myself to own a plastic framed gun although I know they're good tools. Make sure you get a plastic holster to go with it.
 
One just went through a little torture test and didn't quite live up to the HK legacy. A few things that went bad were more luck than anything else but surprisingly it took very little mud/debris to completely lock it up and put it out of action. Still its a nice gun.

Autos with tight tolerances and a lot of rail surface tend to do poorly in such tests. That's ok with me. All it has to deal with is some lint and moisture.
 
Autos with tight tolerances and a lot of rail surface tend to do poorly in such tests. That's ok with me. All it has to deal with is some lint and moisture.

Neh this wasn't the problem. The whole in the back for the visible striker seems to be poorly designed. A little dirt inside and the striker is dead. And of course torture tests are extreme by nature
 
I have not yet been able to bring myself to own a plastic framed gun although I know they're good tools. Make sure you get a plastic holster to go with it.

I've resisted for many years. I have a hand fitted 1911 with some miles on it that I'd like to keep tight forever. My CZ has loosened itself up to the point of rattling. I have room for something more appliance like. The HK has the best feel and great performance out of the box. I can respect that.

As for a holster, I can't go all plastic. I'll probably get a hybrid of some sort...though you can never go wrong with leather.
 
Neh this wasn't the problem. The whole in the back for the visible striker seems to be poorly designed. A little dirt inside and the striker is dead. And of course torture tests are extreme by nature

Sure. Lint. Is okay. Most of these tests are meaningless to me. I don't throw guns in the muck, and every type of muck has different properties.
 
Looking forward to your range report when you pick it up. I got to handle and shoot one a few months ago, they are a sweet shooting pistol. I have a xds 45 that I carry and have been wanting a 9mm for the range a lot cheaper to shoot.
 
Me too!

There's been a few trades lately all of a sudden. I'm guessing these "torture test" videos may have something to do with it. I don't think I have any handgun I'd want to subject to something like that. The wrong size granule of dirt, clay, or sand can lock up, slow down, or cause a malfunction in any gun. Nothing is infallible, though folks like to parrot that Glocks and AK's don't jam.
 
Congratulations! I know it took some time and effort to work yourself up to it, but you did it. I'm going through the same thing. I've never owned a plastic and/or striker fire, but I'm pretty sure I will do so soon. The guns I am now carrying or using as hiking or field guns are no longer being made and are becoming price prohibitive to replace. However, if for whatever reason we lose a plastic striker we can go to the store today and replace it for not so crazy money.
 
Outstanding choice! Can't wait for the range report....I haven't fired mine yet!! :D :cool: ;)
 
Outstanding choice! Can't wait for the range report....I haven't fired mine yet!! :D :cool: ;)
Holy smokes, man! What are ya waitin' for?!

I plan on picking it up April-ish near my birthday. I'm excited to the point of giddiness. It's always a tough wait.

Having fired one already I know what to expect, but there's nothing like shooting your own.
 
Nice gun. I shot one when they first came out as well as a Walther PPQ M2. The VP fit my hand a little better but PPQ had a better trigger.
They are so similar they should be pretty comparable, but the PPQ just doesn't do it for me. The VP9 trigger is crisper at the break and the grip in my hands is much more secure. Can't go wrong with either, but the HK feels more refined to me. The differences are subtle, but noticeable.

The oft maligned striker indicator is now regarded as a critical flaw or weak point in the design, but I like it and it's nothing new on other pistols.
 
Oh, the humanity of it all!!!!!!

A plastic bottom feeder.

Please accept my very deepest condolences.

I like blued steel and walnut, but since they were all lost in that terrible boating accident,.............

JK. Enjoy your new HK, and thanks for showing.
I can certainly respect that, but not all the hammers in the shed need to be so finely crafted if they can still effectively drive nails.

I'll soon be able to say that my beater gun is an HK :D
 
I have two, or maybe just one.
My Son has my Glock on extended long term loan.
Still got the runt Kahr.
But it's only a 9mm!
 

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