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Canik TP9 SA at $350 price point.
See Mac's review from Military Arms Channel and how this $350 pistol stacked up against his H&K VP9.
Gotta say: I went to the LGS today after work, and put one of these in my hands - it felt very nice.
Trigger felt better than either one of my Glocks or my M&P's.
Think this is going to be my next pistol purchase.
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02-08-2016, 08:37 PM
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I've seen then at gun stores. Price isn't bad but I'm not interested in spending $350 till I see a few years of proven performance outside of an occasional range trip. Some big police department or FBI, military. ...something! Until then the $350 is better suited to ammo purchases
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02-08-2016, 08:43 PM
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Had the original TP9 for over a year.
No issues - I just absolutely hated the trigger!
It was the pistol I wanted to like but couldn't.
With this new trigger system. Think I'll be happy.
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02-08-2016, 10:05 PM
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I've seen then at gun stores. Price isn't bad but I'm not interested in spending $350 till I see a few years of proven performance outside of an occasional range trip. Some big police department or FBI, military. ...something! Until then the $350 is better suited to ammo purchases
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No law enforcement agency is ever going to select a gun from Turkey to be their duty weapon. I do agree with giving it a few years and thousands of rounds before forming a solid opinion.
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02-08-2016, 10:36 PM
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Even at half the price, I'd still rather have the VP9.
His mud tests don't mean much to me.
I like the TP9SA, but not enough to own it. A few of these YouTube reviewers are really talking it up.
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02-08-2016, 11:21 PM
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I've seen some good reviews on them but I have plenty that this one is neither here nor there. I think at the point where I'm at I can use more ammo instead of guns
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I think I'd put that $350 into a CZ-75B or a Beretta M-92FS, both of which have long histories as reliable, accurate guns, with visible hammers. I am not a fan of striker-fired guns.
The Beretta M-9 passed his mud test and worse, before adoption by the US and other militaries. The South African Z-88 is a direct copy, as is basically the Taurus, apart from having a different safety.
If I bought a H-K, it'd be the USP. It's the German Army pistol and has presumably passed some military trials. And it's seen use by SAS and Aussie SAS. They wouldn't use an unreliable pistol.
Doesn't Canik make a CZ-75 copy? It might fare better. What do those cost here?
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I think I'd put that $350 into a CZ-75B or a Beretta M-92FS, both of which have long histories as reliable, accurate guns, with visible hammers. I am not a fan of striker-fired guns.
The Beretta M-9 passed his mud test and worse, before adoption by the US and other militaries. The South African Z-88 is a direct copy, as is basically the Taurus, apart from having a different safety.
If I bought a H-K, it'd be the USP. It's the German Army pistol and has presumably passed some military trials. And it's seen use by SAS and Aussie SAS. They wouldn't use an unreliable pistol.
Doesn't Canik make a CZ-75 copy? It might fare better. What do those cost here?
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Any of the CZ clones from EAA can be had for as little as $300. CDNN has a polymer semi compact for less. Canik make the S120 for a good price and there is the Tristar L120 as well.
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02-09-2016, 12:33 AM
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I thought the EAA guns were Tanfoglios? Do they handle Canik, too?
If not, who does, and do they service them? That's always a factor in buying a gun. Some non-US makes can be hard to repair if not supported by the importer. And off-brands like Canik may not be destined for a continuing place in the US market.
What does Canik call their CZ clone?
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02-09-2016, 02:35 AM
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The Canik S120 and 55 Stingray are all cosmetic variants of the CZ-75/Tanfoglio design. I'd bet that many parts are interchangeable. Article on one variant here. CTD at the Range: Tristar Arms S-120 9mm
The C55 Stingray gets a workout here.
Gun Review: Canik 55 Stingray-C - The Truth About Guns
I'd be more worried about spares for the polymer guns rather than these badge engineered CZ clones.
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I had a Canik Stingray but sold it. The parts (including the sights) are not interchangeable with CZ pistols. The pistols are built tough and are great bang for the bucks, but I thought the trigger pull was too heavy. I sold it to fund my Sig P320 Carry.
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The only problem I see is in support. It's brought in by Century, and they aren't supporting it with anything. Even spare mags are hard to come by. Their past record of importing pistols has been a batch here and a batch there and that's it. No parts, no warranty work, no mags, no accessories, no support.
That's really the only drawback I see. Supposedly Walther PPQ mags work in it, but that's not exactly a low cost option. Holsters shouldn't be too big a deal. I'm sure it fits in some existing holsters, and Kydex wouldn't be any harder than any other gun to make.
The gun itself I like quite a bit. I haven't shot it, but I've handled a few and I'd buy one if I needed another 9mm. I'd like to know where to get spare mags though. I haven't been able to find any lately.
The logistics tail is just non-existent.
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If the canik tp9sa interests people, look into spending an extra $100-$150 and check out the Magnum Research MR9 pistols. The frames are built by Walther and it's based on the walther p99. That might be my next handgun, but like Arik said, I too should probably invest that money in more mags and ammo.
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The point of getting extra ammo is always valid to me.
Unless, you're the type of person who wants 50,000 rounds of each caliber for the zombie apocalypse? Then maybe not so much valid point.
This will be a rec pistol for the range (at least until I put thousands of rounds through it myself). Then I might consider using it for my home/self defense?
As far as support and parts - guess I'll have to wait and see how that part plays out, if ever needed?
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The point of getting extra ammo is always valid to me.
Unless, you're the type of person who wants 50,000 rounds of each caliber for the zombie apocalypse? Then maybe not so much valid point.
This will be a rec pistol for the range (at least until I put thousands of rounds through it myself). Then I might consider using it for my home/self defense?
As far as support and parts - guess I'll have to wait and see how that part plays out, if ever needed?
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I wouldn't say 50k rounds because of some apocalypse but at the same time I don't count too much. I kinda know what I have but I couldn't tell you if I had 1000 rounds of 45 or 1232 rounds. So when I see a good deal I buy regardless of how many I have. For instance, 2 weeks ago SGAMMO had a great deal on 45acp range ammo. Typically 1000 rounds of 45 is around $300 + shipping, which for me is just shy of $20. So I'd be looking at $315 - $320 depending on actual weight. Here they had it for $285 shipped! I don't care if I have 5k or 50k that's a good deal ....so I bought
And considering that ammo is something that's one and done it's definitely not going to go to waste
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I've got the SAR K2P.
Takes 19 round CZ mags.
Probably the best bang for your buck pistol out on the market right now.
I've put over 3,700 rounds through it and not one issue that I can remember.
Can't say that about too many pistols for under $300 (new) anymore.
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I think I'd put that $350 into a CZ-75B or a Beretta M-92FS, both of which have long histories as reliable, accurate guns, with visible hammers.
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My exact thought. There are many well made and already proven guns out there in the same price range. Why not go with one of them?
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I think I'd put that $350 into a CZ-75B or a Beretta M-92FS, both of which have long histories as reliable, accurate guns, with visible hammers. I am not a fan of striker-fired guns.
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These days I meet lots of people who DON'T like visible hammers. Maybe they think a hammer spoils the lines of the gun or they don't like the idea of a hammer getting caught if they CCW.
Other perceived problems with the CZ-75 and the Beretta 92 are heavy DA trigger, weight, and in the case of the Beretta, grip size.
If I were to need/decide to buy a polymer 9mm, I'd probably grab a fullsize Diamondback DB9. At the price they sell them at the shows here, it's a wonderful buy, and it's American made.
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