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For all of you Walking Dead fans out there on this forum, I just found out today that Rick's Colt Python has adopted a little brother. . .a stainless Python. It happened this morning. The stainless gun was acquired as a "parts gun" since these Colt parts are near impossible to find, at least quality parts. The nickel Python is the "only" one that has ever been used on the show and will continue to serve in that capacity. It has been appraised for $ 900,000.00. Smithsonian has apparently express an interest in acquiring the gun once the show is over. The original nickel gun suffered a little damage, as in the hammer and trigger. This afternoon both guns were carried to a gunsmith in North Georgia; and, hopefully, the original gun is now in fully restored condition. The gun is never left unguarded even during cleaning and repair. Beginning with filming next Tuesday, the gun will debut with its new trigger and hammer. I did get to handle the stainless Python two days ago. . .it was a nice one. I missed getting to see and maybe hold the original Python this morning by 30 minutes. Just devastating for a Walking Dead fan like me. At least, next season, I will know that I had my finger on the trigger and my thumb on the hammer of the gun that Rick is using. It doesn't take much to make us simple folk happy. At least that's what my wife told me.
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I thought the gun used in the show was either stainless or nickel?
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You are right! I told you I didn't get to see it. It looks nickel to me, but hard to tell. . .pretty shiny.
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Zombies don't appear to be that hard to kill. When the apocalypse comes I'll use my 30-1 or 31-1, that way thet still have the honor of getting re-killed by a classy gun.
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Thanks Doc, take 2 aspirin and get some sleep.You'll feel better in the morning.

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Mag that Dana Brown used on his Safari coffee companies TV adventure show. It was broken at the wrist and had been field repaired, wire wrapped around it and used it for some yuears after the repair.

He was from STL, his heirs took the gun to my favorite LGS there and put it on consignment. I had probably 3 300 WBYs at the time and thought about it for one day, a gentleman from Alaska bought it.

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Thank you for the post. Somehow after 15+ years on this forum, I have come to treasure Smith revolvers, but thank you for posting.
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We all hope that someday Rick adds a Smith M27 to his arsenal. Pythons break. . .Smiths don't!
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Being a well rounded gun guy I like both the Python and S&W revolvers.

As much as I like Pythons and 27's and 686's I ve wondered why he has not found and packed a Colt 1911 or a Sig 229 in 40 or 9mm that holds many more rounds and can be ready for more with a fresh clip. I'd be on the look out for one all the time. But then I have them and would have open carried them from day one. I would have suggested Glock but it is well known that Zombies are corrosive primed and PVC gun molecules break down from contact and no cleaning.

For the guys that are really into this, did the comic book version of Rick carry a Python?
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Perhaps the original was a stainless Python as well. It would only make sense to get another stainless for parts then. Because I am almost certain, Ricks 6" Python is stainless and not nickel. It has that matte stainless look, and not the mirror shine of bright nickel or the look of e-nickel.

But other than trivial details, that is awesome you got to handle any of the Pythons. I am jealous as a TWD fan, and Colt loyalist. Good for you. I almost bought a 6" stainless because of Ricks until I came to my senses and realized my blue 6" was good enough.

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Being a well rounded gun guy I like both the Python and S&W revolvers.

As much as I like Pythons and 27's and 686's I ve wondered why he has not found and packed a Colt 1911 or a Sig 229 in 40 or 9mm that holds many more rounds and can be ready for more with a fresh clip. I'd be on the look out for one all the time. But then I have them and would have open carried them from day one. I would have suggested Glock but it is well known that Zombies are corrosive primed and PVC gun molecules break down from contact and no cleaning.

For the guys that are really into this, did the comic book version of Rick carry a Python?
IMHO Rick still carries the Python because it was his duty revolver though the other deputies carried Glocks, he carried that Python so he's keeping what he knows and I believe it serves as a link to life before all this happened. Plus it's in the script.
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limitation is the greatest form of flattery. You see it in S&W L frames, N frame Classics, Taurus Raging Bulls, even Korths. All wannabe Pythons.
But just like all those copycat 1911s, Theres only ONE Python. ''COLT PYTHON''
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Much to do about nothing in my opinion. I like the show, but big deal. Ya, pop culture, blah blah blah.
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I've learned from the walking dead that my sp101 will turn into a 6 shot revolver when the zombies come and my j frame will turn into a ten shot revolver
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Being a well rounded gun guy I like both the Python and S&W revolvers.

As much as I like Pythons and 27's and 686's I ve wondered why he has not found and packed a Colt 1911 or a Sig 229 in 40 or 9mm that holds many more rounds and can be ready for more with a fresh clip. I'd be on the look out for one all the time. But then I have them and would have open carried them from day one. I would have suggested Glock but it is well known that Zombies are corrosive primed and PVC gun molecules break down from contact and no cleaning.

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One of the early seasons DVD box set had a behind the scenes part and I watched it. Nobody but Andrew Lincoln ever touches that Python (aside from armorers of course). He even wears it off camera. As for why he chooses a Python, it's the cowboy look of that revolver. The open bottomed 4 inch holster is universally regarded as a big goof by the show. No cop would ever let 2 inches of his weapon hang out. Good way to screw up the sights and get obstructions in the barrel. Walking through the woods and swamps I wouldn't want my barrel exposed.

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IMHO Rick still carries the Python because it was his duty revolver though the other deputies carried Glocks, he carried that Python so he's keeping what he knows and I believe it serves as a link to life before all this happened. Plus it's in the script.
In the pilot episode or the 1st episode Rick carried a Glock. When they had that standoff right before he's shot

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It's neat that the show decided to go with the same revolver from the comic (I think) hard to be any classier than a python. I'm just having a hard time wrapping my head around 900,000, seriously?! it's a gun from a TV show, how much would they appraise Archie bunker's chair at?

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I've learned from the walking dead that my sp101 will turn into a 6 shot revolver when the zombies come and my j frame will turn into a ten shot revolver
And you'll be able to consistently make head shots with a handgun at 50 yards, 100 yards, maybe more.
Maybe they had an SP101 in 327 Magnum. That's a 6 shooter. Going to be hard to pick up 327 ammo after a zombie apocalypse, though.
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There's a forum member that claims to be able to do just that. Handgun Hunter or Hog Hunter or something like that . . .
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It's neat that the show decided to go with the same revolver from the comic (I think) hard to be any classier than a python. I'm just having a hard time wrapping my head around 900,000, seriously?! it's a gun from a TV show, how much would they appraise Archie bunker's chair at?
Most guns from tv/movies are valued like that. How much would Eastwood's model 29 be appraised at?

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No he did not. All the other cops there had Glock 19's. Rick even told one of them to make sure the safety was off and the guy thumbed down on the slide lock. But Rick had his Python and fired it and killed one of the guys before the other guy shot him. Shane carried his Glock 19 throughout the series until he was killed. Even remarked it was his favorite gun.

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What kills me is that Ricks holster is for a 4" and last two inches of the 6" is sticking out the damn holster! The prop dept. is so lame for not getting Rick a proper holster!
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I'm proud to say that I have never watched even one episode of the show. But if the zombies ever come over MY hill, I won't be using a six-shot weapon!
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The Colt Rick carries has become a character on the show. Even gets a nice long shot of it in the opening credits, sitting there in its case. It's the "Old Lawman" look to it. Same with the swivel holster. Sticking out like that and bouncing around, it is not the ideal way to wear the gun, but it makes him look like an old time gunslinger. He'll use 1911's and Glocks, but always as backups.

And the crossbow that Daryl carries, which has become an integral part of his character, was purchased at Walmart for a couple hundred bucks. They revealed that on the Talking Dead, the show that discusses TWD.
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One might wonder why they didn't go with a 4" Python, due to most duty cops having 4" models compared to 6".

However, I have a feeling that the "wow factor" was the reason for a 6" Python. It is "in your face" and easy to tell it is packing some power.

As for the holster, that is just dumb. Heck I bought 3 holsters in the last couple weeks for my 2.5" Python. Two got returned because they didn't give the maximum coverage and protection I needed for such a valuable gun. The 3rd one was perfect for coverage and protection but I still had to do some "home economic" altering by re-locating the thumb break and sewing it back on. I thank the poor design of Bianchi's Accumold holster for that. The thumb break was velcro attached for customizing, but it ran down right through where my belt slides through. There was NO room to fit a belt through due to that, especially a 1/4" Bullhide gun belt. When it comes to Python holsters, I want dang near the whole gun and frame covered for protection.

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One might wonder why they didn't go with a 4" Python, due to most duty cops having 4" models compared to 6".

However, I have a feeling that the "wow factor" was the reason for a 6" Python. It is "in your face" and easy to tell it is packing some power.

As for the holster, that is just dumb. Heck I bought 3 holsters in the last couple weeks for my 2.5" Python. Two got returned because they didn't give the maximum coverage and protection I needed for such a valuable gun. The 3rd one was perfect for coverage and protection but I still had to do some "home economic" altering by re-locating the thumb break and sewing it back on. I thank the poor design of Bianchi's Accumold holster for that. The thumb break was velcro attached for customizing, but it ran down right through where my belt slides through. There was NO room to fit a belt through due to that, especially a 1/4" Bullhide gun belt. When it comes to Python holsters, I want dang near the whole gun and frame covered for protection.
The behind the scenes thing in the DVD also mentioned there is a replica Python, either rubber or plastic, for scenes where drawing and operating it aren't necessary.

And I guarentee the constant thumbing back the hammer to fire in single action only( again like the old west gun fighters) and the thumbing back the hammer and then lowering it when he chooses not to fire, all because the clicking of the hammer looks and sounds cool, can't be good for any gun, much less a Python. Probably why the hammer and trigger needed replacing.

Think about how many takes it gets to get one shot. Rick might thumb that hammer down 15 times to get the one shot they need. And he must cock that hammer back 10 times a show if it's an action episode. Like the dramatic "shuck shuck" of a pump action shotgun. Looks and sounds cool.

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Bruce Willis' Beretta 92F is in some museum somewhere. I've seen it on the web. Willis required an extended slide lock too. The gun is scratched all to hell from all the times it's been dropped, thrown, and just banged around.
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Reference the 6" revolver being carried in a 4" holster:
In an early episode where Rick and the black father and son is inside Rick's former sheriff building, didn't Rick scrounge up the holster and gun belt from the armory for his service revolver that was in evidence room?
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The behind the scenes thing in the DVD also mentioned there is a replica Python, either rubber or plastic, for scenes where drawing and operating it aren't necessary.

And I guarentee the constant thumbing back the hammer to fire in single action only( again like the old west gun fighters) and the thumbing back the hammer and then lowering it when he chooses not to fire, all because the clicking of the hammer looks and sounds cool, can't be good for any gun, much less a Python. Probably why the hammer and trigger needed replacing.

Think about how many takes it gets to get one shot. Rick might thumb that hammer down 15 times to get the one shot they need. And he must cock that hammer back 10 times a show if it's an action episode. Like the dramatic "shuck shuck" of a pump action shotgun. Looks and sounds cool.
I agree that it can't be good for the gun if done hundreds of times. But I would venture to say that in the hands of someone who knows how to properly operate a V spring Colt action, it would have little effect on the hammer and trigger wearing out. After all, that is what guns do. Now if it is your average Joe not being familiar with that action, then yes it could get screwed up.

I have a feeling that Python gets some abuse though and probably the main reason for a parts gun and repairs. Because if the Python is in good service condition, it would NEVER even develop a turn line if operated properly. The abuse of being on a movie set is probably why they went with a STS Python too. Instead of blue, nickel, or BSTS.
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No. Rick had that same rig in the opening scene where he was shot. And that wasn't the evidence room. It was the police station armory, which lets be honest would have been picked clean before they got there. A wire cage and a padlock wouldn't stop people from clearing it out. Rick left that station with like 12 guns and over 700 rounds of ammo.
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I agree that it can't be good for the gun if done hundreds of times. But I would venture to say that in the hands of someone who knows how to properly operate a V spring Colt action, it would have little effect on the hammer and trigger wearing out. After all, that is what guns do. Now if it is your average Joe not being familiar with that action, then yes it could get screwed up.

I have a feeling that Python gets some abuse though and probably the main reason for a parts gun and repairs. Because if the Python is in good service condition, it would NEVER even develop a turn line if operated properly. The abuse of being on a movie set is probably why they went with a STS Python too. Instead of blue, nickel, or BSTS.
You think some British actor knows how to properly handle a python? And just what is properly? He slams that cylinder open and closed and yanks back on that hammer like its a ripcord on a parachute.

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I was told that "somebody" dropped the gun on a hard surface breaking the hammer and damaging the trigger. The armorer got stuck with the task of locating parts and seeing to the repair of the weapon.
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