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11-27-2016, 04:33 PM
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Sears rifle/Savage model 63
I need some help. I have the above mentioned gun that I bought last year. It is a single shot 22 rifle. The sole purpose of this was to be able to help my scout troop have enough rifles for the kids to shoot. I had it to two different gunsmiths and still have the same problem with it. The shell will not extract out of the chamber with the bolt. You have to use extra force like with a screwdriver or knife. Otherwise it shoots dang good. Now what can I do to make this gun work right? I am open to any ideas, tricks and tips.
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11-27-2016, 05:31 PM
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Since two gunsmiths ave checked this rifle - I would think that the problem is NOT with the extractor. I remember one 1911 where the extractor had been bent and was no longer engaging the shell adequately for extraction. Extractors can be worn. Or bent enough to cause a problem, but this is VERY RARE unless Bubba has tried to be a gunsmith.
My first guess is that the chamber is rough or "sticky".
TEST:
1) Fire one shot. (OK I know it is a single shot)
2) Open and bolt.
3) If case did NOT extract - continue.
4) Remove bolt.
5) Get your full length cleaning rod.
6) Insert rod from muzzle end.
7) Go SLOW - you want to fins out just HOW TIGHT the case is being held in chamber.
8) Now you have a reference on the extraction force needed.
Next would be to CLEAN the chamber to BRIGHT.
VERY OLD oil could have turned to varnish and became sticky.
If problem is not cured by cleaning.
My next attempt would be to POLISH the chamber.
I would use a tight fitting cleaning patch and very fine abrasive to polish the chamber. [Toothpaste / Mothers Mag / Turtle Wax (Yes it contains some cleaning abrasive.)]
Polish a LITTLE and CHECK the patch to see what/if it is cleaning anything.
GO SLOW!
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11-27-2016, 05:53 PM
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Someone dry fired a lot & swelled the chamber mouth? Easy fix.
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11-27-2016, 06:02 PM
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Cleaning for sure, but does it happen with multiple brands and sizes of .22. I've had failures to extract with my modern .22 and switching ammo brands is a quick fix. Every single shot .22 I've seen is .22 Short/Long/Long Rifle. It may have been shot exclusivity with .22 Shorts and the longer .22 Long or L.R. case is hanging on slight chamber etching or build-up. Try .22 Shorts in it. That's all you need for your intended purpose anyway.
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11-27-2016, 06:12 PM
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weak extractor spring ?
extractor "Hook" worn ?
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11-27-2016, 06:20 PM
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Camber a live round, now see if it will extract the non fired round. If so it is probably not the extractor,
If is only the fired rounds than see Bekeart #2 post above.
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Or you could take it to a "REAL" gunsmith that knows what he is doing!
When you get the fired case out of the gun check for either a groove or a bright stripe running down the case and aligned with the firing pin impression. It is common for old .22 rifles to be dry-fired extensively and damage the chamber mouth from being struck by the firing pin. Simple fix, and any "gunsmith" that can neither diagnose or repair this, a very basic repair, has no right to call himself a gunsmith, and probably not even a very good parts changer!
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