Stevens .410 SxS shotgun marked "Second"..***PICS ADDED***

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Has anyone seen that marking before? If so, I guess it means it left the factory with some sort of blemish etc.?

I saw an old .410 SxS marked that way. The seller wants $300 plus the shipping A .410 double bbl. would be a neat shooter! :)

Best,
Charles
 
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.410' SxS's always seem to bring good money. If it's solid and correctly functioning it should be worth that. I'd bet is is choked F&F or M&F. It always amazes me, I'd think they would be more usable choked IC & M .
 
That's just such a hard gun to find. Doesn't matter what it says on it. Twenty years ago, the cheap (not Parkers) 410 doubles were right at $500, which is why I don't have one. Last time a load of old Stevens doubles came into the LGS, I didn't even get to see the small bore ones. The guys who live there (literally live in the LGS) grabbed them all up. I did get the 12 gage one from the late 1950's. Better than nothing. I guess they all ran out of money. They were all 311A models. . .the ones that didn't have a serial number. . .1956ish. I was just glad to get one.
 
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My cousin and his wife celebrated their 50th wedding anniversary last year. She called me and told me she wanted the nicest American made double .410 I could find for a reasonable amount. I found a very nice Savage and paid $1300. He was happy to get it, but a bit unsettled by what I paid. He is on the tight side.
 
Steven's/Savage currently has a .410 O/U with a single-set trigger. It is made in Turkey. Cost is ~$600. Extractors, Walnut buttstock and fore end, 26" barrels with five screw-in chokes and a nice fit and finish.

Sorry for the drift.
 
policerevolvercollector said:
Has anyone seen that marking before? If so, I guess it means it left the factory with some sort of blemish etc.?

I saw an old .410 SxS marked that way. The seller wants $300 plus the shipping A .410 double bbl. would be a neat shooter! :)

Best,
Charles
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I have never saw that marking or ever heard of it. At one time Fox marked some barrels "not guaranteed" but that meant they didn't guarantee the pattern. Larry
 
'second' marked Stevens shotguns and rifles were only blemishes in the finish or areas in the castings/forgings that didn't polish out.
Structurally they are fine.
I don't know if they ever did that to their early line of single shot pistols too. The practice continued after Savage took control (1920) but I don't know if Savage also marked the Savage product line as such also and sold them with the blemishes. Or if they didn't
make the grade,,were re-done/refitted with a new part before sending them out of the factory.

Most of the blemishes are to be found in the frames,,a pin=hole in the casting, a rough spot or divot in same, a problem with the finish itself.
Tearing down the entire gun to it's frame to replace it wasn't cost effective so they sold them as=is at a discount.
Wood and small parts with problems got taken care of generally before being sent out.
 
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I love my 410 and 28 gauge shotguns (and my 20 and 12's also). I shoot Sporting Clays with them mostly and reload about 6000 410's a year and about 5000 28's. The cost of shot has risen from $7.00 a bag in 1994 to $35-50 a bag now (mostly $35 except Cabela's & Vance's now.) The components are running about $3.25 a box for 410 & about $3.75 for 28, but you need the hauls and a press. The higher velocity reloads for Sporting Clays have a shorter life span than Skeet loads in both gauges. (for Sporting 10-12 times, for Skeet closer to 20).

But $3.25 a box sure beats $10+ any day! On my MEC Grabber progressive presses I get about 125-150 an hour for 410 and more for each gauge larger until around 250 for 12 gauge.

As my hauls get very worn, I load their last loading, Then I sort the best looking cases and set them aside. I then give them to guys with kids with 410 single shot or Savage 24's, so they can afford to take the kids fun shooting or even small game hunting. The low quality hauls get shot and pitched!

My older brother started in the early 60's with a Savage 24 in 22LR/410. It was choked full! I shoot fast moving targets with Mod and I/C all the time. Full is just way too tight! but a gun is what it is.

Ivan
 
410's

I own several older savage / Stevens sxs's, they are good serviceable field guns. I also load and shoot 410's and 28's ( along with 20's,16's and 12's), my long time bird hunting partner hunted exclusively with a 410. And he accounted for as many quail, chukkar and pheasants as they rest of us, I ended up with his 410 when he passed. I hunted with it just last week, it reminded me of past hunts, good times and comrades who are no longer with us.
 
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