Local pawn shop has a Model 12 16 gauge for sale now. Serial number puts it around 1946 or so. Probably 85% condition wise as far as metal and wood. They are asking $574 for it. Buy or pass??

That's a fair price if it is decent shape and you want a 16 ga.. Make sure it isn't chambered for 2 9/16" shells as some of the old 16 ga. mdl. 12 's were. I have 2. A 12 ga & a 20 ga.. Love "em" both.

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Model 12 is what all other pumps are judged by. If I came across a nice 16 gauge around that price level,I would probably consider adding it to my long gun safe. Haggle on the price..but if it's clean..it's worth it.

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It sounds like a shooter. Do you want to use 16 gauge? If so, you are in luck (but at a little high price). If it was me, I would rather it be a 12 gauge. And I would trip over my tongue if it was a 20 or 28 and couldn't get my wallet out fast enough. But a 16, to me is a yawn! (to my best friend it is a grail gun)

Ivan

Thanks! It is a shooter grade. 28 inch full choke plain barrel. A gun that would appreciate in value while you could carry it into the woods without fear of scratching it up. It needs cleaned and oiled esp.The barell, very dirty. I've bought guns there before so we'll try to do a little haggling on the$$$. What would be a good starting offer to get things going??

I would lay 4 $100 bills on the counter and let them sweat a response.

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I'm my local it would be a tad high but not crazy for a plain barreled gun, low for a gun with vent rib and really low for a solid rib gun.

To me the Model 12 in 16 gauge is pick of the litter. It is built on the medium frame that was also used for the 20 and 28 gauge guns. It really does carry like a 20 (and handles a bit better) and kills like 12.

I'm not parting with mine any time soon.

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It would be a little high in my area.

sounds right to me. what new pump gun could you buy that even approaches that level of quality.

i know im the only one that pays over 500 bucks for a gun on this forum but they just dont give em away around here.

the small frame 16 gauge is significantly lighter and smaller than the 12

here's my oft posted 1947..

ive always loved that pic. thats just fantastic.

You say the barrel is very dirty......I would ask them to clean it to make sure it's just dirt (I learned my lesson years ago on an old 16 gauge Model 1897 - found out it was pitted after I bought it, even though the exterior of the gun was in nice condition.)

If it's from 1946, it's probably not pitted. I have two Model 12s, a pre-WWII 12 gauge and a first year of production Model 1912 in 20 gauge with a 2-5/8" chamber, which I lengthened on mine to take 2-3/4" shells. The first Model 12s were made only in 20 gauge. I am not sure I would go much over $400 today for any Model 12 unless it was in supreme collector-grade condition - especially so in 16 gauge. Fine guns but a bit heavy. Truth be told, my favorite pump shotgun is my Winchester Model 1200.

About 2 years ago I passed on a clean post-war Model 12 16 gauge at $350 for two reasons: 1) there was a 1" X 2" chip out of the toe of the stock and 2) I had just bought an Ithaca M37 16. (Notice a pattern?) I still occasionally kick myself.

I agree: 4 Benjamins on the counter, but I'd have US Grant in my pocket just in case.

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As others say, I'd haggle (just a bit) on price, but if he wouldn't come down, I'd still buy it, long as it passed an inspection. I've mentioned this before, but the 16-gauge seems to be enjoying a resurgence in popularity around here, especially for rabbit hunters. The 16s sell fairly fast here.

The Model 12 is my favorite. It isn't called "The Perfect Repeater" for nothing.

Now that's a real beauty! Don't you just love that old time Winchester blue? Far as I'm concerned, the pre-'64 Model 12s are the gold standard for pump shotguns.

I've never owned a 16. I'm gonna fix that.

love the old model 12's

heres a '52 in 20 gauge that i picked up late last year

1953 ..12 guage

I'll be the heretic and say that while I have several nice model 12's that I own for their collector's value, I much prefer the Remington 870 for actual hunting use. The take down is simpler and most parts are interchangeable. The Model 12 can be a real beast to work on as far as replacing parts.

I went back and talked to the owner and he said $574.00 out the door. I would like to clean the barrel just to make sure there is no pitting in it. It has a little bit of rust freckling on the receiver but the gun is really tight as far as the takedown as it is still on the first notch. If the barrel cleans up ok I may buy it.

Ya can tell it's quality just by looking at it! Thanks to all for the great pics

Consider it the Model 27 of shotguns. You can buy too soon, but rarely pay too much.

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Personally, I do not like the ergonomics of the 12 gauge Model 12.

I suspect I would like it much more on the smaller frame

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If you buy it, buy it to use. Model 12 prices aren't what they were at one time. Sure, Black Diamonds and Trap guns, etc. can still bring a good price. But a lot of people are cleaning out "Grandpa's closet" and there seem to be a lot of field grade M12s on the market- at least in my neck of the woods.

Here is my 1912 Winchester. It says Model 1912 on the barrel. I think they dropped the 19....and just called it the Model 12, in 1919. This one is made in 1914, the first year for the 16 gauge. It is SS# 42911. It is all original and looks brand new. I shot it just yesterday. I paid 450.00 in 2010 here in Yuma. At the time I had no idea of its age.

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