A Question Regarding Carrying a Ruger P Series Pistol

mainegrw · May 31, 2017

I mentioned last Friday in the thread on the Ruger P90 that I had just purchased one, and would be picking it up on Saturday. I did pick the gun up, and along with it, a DeSantis Thumb break holster for it, conveniently off of the LGS clearance rack. When it tried fitting the gun into the holster, it went in, however I could not get the snaps on the strap to come close enough together to snap. Upon showing this to a salesman, I was advised that the P Series guns were meant to be carried hammer cocked like a 1911 instead of de-cocked, as the strap would snap with the hammer cocked and out of the way. Personally, this scares me a little bit, as there is no other safety devices to prevent discharge other than to de-cock the hammer, and I opted to return the holster.

What say you about the P Series pistols? Can they safely be carried Hammer cocked, or are my feelings correct on a handgun such as this, and it should only be carried de-cocked like model 39 or Beretta 92?

Also, as an aside, the P90 is freaking awesome! If you don't have one, but one. You just can't beat the quality for the price.

Thanks.

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Inusuit · May 31, 2017

I have an older P94 that's one of my vehicle guns. I assume it's the same platform. I would not be comfortable carrying it cocked and NOT locked even with the holster strap between the hammer and the firing pin.

I think maybe the salesman was blowing smoke. My CZ 75 is DA/SA, but the safety can be engaged with the hammer cocked much like a 1911.

Ultimately what you feel safe doing. I agree the Ruger P series are decent guns for the money (mine was used and under $200), albeit with not the most ergonomic.

rjm6120 · May 31, 2017

I agree with Inusuit....I wouldn't carry that gun with the hammer cocked....pretty sure the P series guns were NOT meant to be carried that way.

Regarding your holster for it, is there any possible way the straps can be stretched enough to get the snaps to come together? How far apart are they when who try to get the straps around the hammer. Perhaps it just needs to be broken in a bit.

Ozark Marine · May 31, 2017

I dug into my drawer of old holsters after reading your post.
I used to carry my Ruger P 345 in a Uncle Mikes Sidekick size #5.
Adjustable straps. Great holster. I think I got it on Ebay.

CAJUNLAWYER · May 31, 2017

I think the salesman was trying to sell you a holster. Those guns were NOT meant to be carried cocked as there is no safety you can engage without the gun decocking itself. Carrying one in a cocked position is pure madness and WILL eventually get you shot in the lag

If a salesman had told me that I would have leaned over the counter and slapped the snot out of him-that is just pure stupid on his part and he should not be allowed anywhere near a gun much less allowed to work in a gun shop.

Well...you asked what I thought.....

patrickd · May 31, 2017

Dealer is full of s--t... You can carry a Ruger P series loaded with one in the chamber safely ONLY with the hammer down. There is no safety. If you want to carry cocked I suggest a good 1911. It is very safe to carry cocked as it has two safeties.

ldausmc1369 · May 31, 2017

Good advice all! Do not carry this weapon cocked! Just 3 or so pounds of trigger let off...... I have a Fobus or Blackhawk paddle that works just fine to carry condition 1, de-cocked.

Arik · May 31, 2017

It was ABSOLUTELY NOT meant to be carried like a 1911. It's a standard double action which has only a decocker to safely lower the hammer.

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mainegrw · May 31, 2017

Thanks gang, this is exactly what I thought, and my argument to the contrary fell on deaf ears. I suspect that the holster, while new, may have shrunk a bit in the package over the long period it had been sitting else was not meant to fit the P90, rather the 85, 89, etc. I only posed the question to you all, as often I have the idea that I am correct in my way of thinking, in this case that the Ruger P Series guns should never be carried cocked, however often my line of thought is incorrect, thus I feel it prudent to check with others for certainty. Like I said, I opted to return the holster, as whether correct or not, I would never carry that gun in that condition. Presently, I am searching for something else. I really like DeSantis Holsters, especially the now discontinued Fascilitator, so I may go ahead and order and Speed scabbard instead, which is essentially the same holster less the thumb strap. I have had one for my Beretta 92 for many years, and I like it a lot. This way I don't have to worry about whether I can snap a strap or not.

Thanks again to all.

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