Make the trade or not??? MADE THE TRADE-see post 29

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Helanbak HB 15 with 60 rounds through it has Wylde barrel whatever that is. (from what I can see this is a build from a group in Columbia MS)
1000+ rounds of .223 and 5.56
a Nikon p-223 1.5-3.5 scope

one (1) Yugo SKS with spigot launcher and bayonet. Has both stock & extra capacity mag. What the hell is a spigot launcher?????

One Mosin Nagant with trigger upgrade. Good condition. Tight bolt. Not floppy.

He is willing to swap the entire package for a 9.5" Ruger Super Redhawk and Simmons Scope.

On the face of it a three for one always intrigues me but is there anything about the above description that jumps out and says "Run Forest Run"? Help me oh forum members-should I make this swap or not. Have absolutely no use for the Ruger-I bought it on a whim after seeing Men in Black-when the tow truck operator pulled it out :D Oh and I didn't pay $900 for the Ruger wither ;) Instead of having a clunky Ruger for which I have no use, it would be neat to have three long guns for which I have no use for either. But the thing with Sigp220.45 getting that $50 Mosin Nagant got me to thinking. AND the one I would be trading for HAS a barrel band and has no body tissue on it!!!
I really need to get some answers from my black gun/military gun experts on this one.
 
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Do the deal. I’m not very good at arithmetic, but I’m good enough to figure out that the numbers are all in your favor here. Besides, Moisins and Yugos are fun to play with and you just can’t have to many AR’s.
 
Wylde is a chamber design of 223. All my friends are WILD about them!!! Usually on 1:8 and 1:7 twist barrels. When Stoner started AR 15 design he used Wylde chambers for heavy bullets, then Colt went with a different chamber. Usually high grade and expensive!

Ivan
 
Wylde chambers are good for both 223 Remington and 5.56 NATO. A true 223 chamber has insufficient leade for heavy 5.56 loads like 69 gr and definitely 77 gr.
 
I can’t speak to the dollar value of any of the guns, but I like your reasoning. An easy way to elevate the fun quotient substantially.
 
CajunLawyer Here is the answer to your question What the hell is a spigot launcher?????


From Wikipedia

Spigot-type[edit]

The 22mm type rifle grenade launcher was developed prior to World War II. This type of launcher is attached to a rifle's muzzle and allows for the use of a wide range of rifle grenades.

from powerful anti-tank rounds to simple finned tubes with a fragmentation hand-grenade attached to the end.

These rifle grenades come in "standard" type, which are propelled by a blank cartridge inserted into the chamber of the rifle; or, "bullet trap" and "shoot through" types, which allow the use of live ammunition.

All modern 22mm rifle grenades explode on impact. All Standard issue NATO rifles are capable of launching STANAG type 22mm rifle grenades from their integral flash hiders without the use of an adapter.

Modern bullet-trap rifle grenades such as the French APAV40 can be fired as fast as a soldier can place a grenade on an FAMAS rifle's muzzle and pull the trigger.
 
The mosin and sks both sound to be modified. If all of the original parts are not there the value is significantly decreased

If the original parts are there then returning those two to "as imported" condition would bring:

Sks $350-400
Mosin $200-225

I would be very concerned that the finish has been altered without seeing pics as bubba has no limits. If modified they are worth

Sks $300
Mosin $150

We really need photos of all three firearms
 
Would need to see pics. Butchered rifles are only worth how bad you want it. While original actually have a value.

SKS
Spigot is a permanent attached grenade launcher.....Illegal in some states. Has a gas shut off valve, can be used as a single shot.
Original condition $400 +/-

Mosin
Floppy bolt doesn't make sense. Upgraded trigger?[emoji849] What does that mean? Bubba with a file?
Original condition price will vary $200 - $500 depending on when it was made and who had it. 1944 91/30 ...$200 +/-. An ex Dragoon? Fin? m91? ....etc... price goes up.

Personally I wouldn't have any interest in the AR unless it's factory from a select few manufacturers.

On the face of it sounds like a good deal but pics are worth a 1000 words

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Thank you Arik that is what I was looking to hear-I was hoping you would respond. Pictures indicate fairly clean SKS one of those Yugos with the grenade launcher and the Mosin looks pretty clean as well I like you am a bit worried about the trigger upgrade as well as the fact that the SKS might be modified regarding the magazine. I'm gonna take bore light with me and if the bores are good and the guns aren't bubba'ed will probably make the deal. I've only got $600 in the Ruger so I really can't get hurt as I can sell the AR for $500 in a heart beat around here.

Have a few photos and nothing really jumps out-but I don't know how to post them here. But Arik you've given me some questions to ask him.
 
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CAJUNLAWYER said:
Thank you Arik that is what I was looking to hear-I was hoping you would respond. Pictures indicate fairly clean SKS one of those Yugos with the grenade launcher and the Mosin looks pretty clean as well I like you am a bit worried about the trigger upgrade as well as the fact that the SKS might be modified regarding the magazine. I'm gonna take bore light with me and if the bores are good and the guns aren't bubba'ed will probably make the deal. I've only got $600 in the Ruger so I really can't get hurt as I can sell the AR for $500 in a heart beat around here.

Have a few photos and nothing really jumps out-but I don't know how to post them here. But Arik you've given me some questions to ask him.
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Those Yugo SKS could have clean or slightly frosted bores depending on what import batch it came from. If it was one from the last big batch in around 2007 or so it should be clean.

Mosin is most likely at the very least frosted barrel but probably dark. Rifles have been in just about every military and every conflict in the last 70+ years. Most likely it'll also be a mix of parts. It's is what it is

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Some M-Ns are rarer and more desirable than others, especially the several Finnish versions. Several years ago I had a Finnish M-N I sold for $450, and it wasn't anything I could describe as being in anywhere close to collectible condition. The purchaser was delighted to get it.
 
CAJUNLAWYER said:
Thank you Arik that is what I was looking to hear-I was hoping you would respond. Pictures indicate fairly clean SKS one of those Yugos with the grenade launcher and the Mosin looks pretty clean as well I like you am a bit worried about the trigger upgrade as well as the fact that the SKS might be modified regarding the magazine. I'm gonna take bore light with me and if the bores are good and the guns aren't bubba'ed will probably make the deal. I've only got $600 in the Ruger so I really can't get hurt as I can sell the AR for $500 in a heart beat around here.

Have a few photos and nothing really jumps out-but I don't know how to post them here. But Arik you've given me some questions to ask him.
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$300 for the Ar and $100 for the scope. Your ruger with scope and rings probibly $700

If the long guns arnt bubba'd up your close to even but your gun takes up a whole lot less room.

ARs are cheap right now. The Wylde chambering isn't that unique anymore. Mosin ammo isn't dirt cheap any more. Sks used to $99 so the 10 round box was easy to over look. Today the Ak has it beat as the prices are close and Ak mags are cheap.

I wouldn't do the trade. Just my humble opinion. Your ruger was the deal at $600. You just got to like big fat heavy revolvers. :D
 
First off. I dont trade or sell any firearms. BUT I would ask if he would sell outright first. Now if i didn't care for the Ruger at all THEN i would more than likely trade. I am not a revolver guy but the long rifles tickle my fancy. Even the lowly 22 rimfire single shots. But that is me. If you do trade PICS please.
Charlie
 
Gunsnwater said:
$300 for the Ar and $100 for the scope. Your ruger with scope and rings probibly $700

If the long guns arnt bubba'd up your close to even but your gun takes up a whole lot less room.

ARs are cheap right now. The Wylde chambering isn't that unique anymore. Mosin ammo isn't dirt cheap any more. Sks used to $99 so the 10 round box was easy to over look. Today the Ak has it beat as the prices are close and Ak mags are cheap.

I wouldn't do the trade. Just my humble opinion. Your ruger was the deal at $600. You just got to like big fat heavy revolvers. :D
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Yea but a 1000+ rounds of 556/223 is around $300 - $400 depending on the manufacturer and how much more the + is. So just the ammo is close to half the price of the Ruger and rings

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DWalt said:
Some M-Ns are rarer and more desirable than others, especially the several Finnish versions. Several years ago I had a Finnish M-N I sold for $450, and it wasn't anything I could describe as being in anywhere close to collectible condition. The purchaser was delighted to get it.
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Mosins are kinda like old luggage with stickers from around the world! Unlike other rifles that are collected for their matching numbers and excellent condition, Mosins are collected for their rare good condition as much as they are for their battle damage and travel history! I've had some unusual ones. WW1 Austrian capture, rechambered to 8x56, sent to Finland and rechambered back to 7.62x54, re captured by the Russians and sold/traded/or re captured again and made it's way to Bulgaria! Or my very rare 1895 M91 Kazak (only a few thousand of those) that made it's way to Czechoslovakia and cut down to M38 configuration.

The massive amount of European battle history in those old work horses is staggering

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