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CZ Handguns in US Police Service? Why not?
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Triathloncoach
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I am often wrong, but I believe I read that more law enforcement agencies world wide use CZ Handguns then any other manufacturer. Does CZ have a manufacturing facility in the USA employing American Workers? If not good luck getting into our LE Market.
What triathaloncoach said.....
Baretta has been accepted by the armed services. But like triathaloncoach said, they were willing to open a factory in the US. CZ makes a fine gun and there's no reason that their guns could be adopted IF they are willing to open a US plant to meet demand.
Baretta has been accepted by the armed services. But like triathaloncoach said, they were willing to open a factory in the US. CZ makes a fine gun and there's no reason that their guns could be adopted IF they are willing to open a US plant to meet demand.
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The CZ is a great gun .... from the 1970s ..... a contemporary of the Second Gen Smith Autos, Beretta 92 and the Sig P series.
But it was not not readily available in the US until the very late 1980s ........with the fall of the wall.
Unfortunately.... to go to a CZ today would be considered by many a step backward.... from today's King of the Hill striker fired plastic wonders.
CZ makes great guns....... while I only have one a 75B..... I've got a handful of their fine rifles...... rimfire and centerfire...... best bang for the buck going IMHO
But it was not not readily available in the US until the very late 1980s ........with the fall of the wall.
Unfortunately.... to go to a CZ today would be considered by many a step backward.... from today's King of the Hill striker fired plastic wonders.
CZ makes great guns....... while I only have one a 75B..... I've got a handful of their fine rifles...... rimfire and centerfire...... best bang for the buck going IMHO
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They would have quite the uphill battle, not only against S & W but brands B, G, S-S and others that have been on the market for decades and (as noted above) with established US factories.
CZ makes quite nice polymer frame duty pistols from what I read, not just the CZ-75 series.
CZ makes quite nice polymer frame duty pistols from what I read, not just the CZ-75 series.
Exactly! Glock is great at marketing their plastic, striker fired pistols and, from what I gather, at prices that other manufacturers cannot match. They are light weight, simple to maintain, very simple to use. The CZ-75 is heavier and has a manual safety system, plus the traditional DA/SA trigger, so it is harder for non-gun people to learn to use.
The CZ75 is viewed as an old, outdated design and in many ways that is true. It is with good reason why you primarily see striker-fired pistols in the holsters of police officers in the U.S. Marketing by itself doesn't explain Glock's reputation, track record and dominant in this area.
Arik
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CZ is more complicated to work on. They don't cater too much to left handed people. There are some but not easily found l, especially in their traditional guns. They may be out there in some small numbers. I've never heard of the Springfield XD being allowed or issued to US police agencies until I was into Easton PA. I saw their officers carrying the XD. The city has 41 police officers including the chief. So it's possible that there are CZs out there somewhere.
The new P10C is very nice but I think CZ just doesn't want to bother with that part of sales.
But honestly I just don't think CZ is aggressively trying to get that market.
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The new P10C is very nice but I think CZ just doesn't want to bother with that part of sales.
But honestly I just don't think CZ is aggressively trying to get that market.
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scoobysnacker
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I agree. I think CZ is comfortable with what they do; a premium metal-frame DA/SA for those who want that, they make nice rifles, they have a line for the 1911 crowd (Dan Wesson).
The time for the metal DA/SA pistol as a police gun has passed for the most part, whether for good or bad. It's polymer frame striker guns now.
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CZ makes very good guns which are quite popular with USPSA shooters, especially in Production class. CZ guns are all made in the Czech Republic where costs are lower generating substantial dollar flow to the home country. The design is complicated for new shooters to master so many police forces will shy away. Jeff Cooper(RIP) blessed the Model 75 way back in the early 80s before the Iron Curtain fell. This led to Tanfoglio(Italy) copying the design and marketing in the US through Springfield Armory. The gun had reliability issues but EAA still sells them here.
CZ may some day build a factory in the US but until then they won't be a major factor in our police market. Availability of quick repairs and parts is also a big issue.
CZ makes very good guns which are quite popular with USPSA shooters, especially in Production class. CZ guns are all made in the Czech Republic where costs are lower generating substantial dollar flow to the home country. The design is complicated for new shooters to master so many police forces will shy away. Jeff Cooper(RIP) blessed the Model 75 way back in the early 80s before the Iron Curtain fell. This led to Tanfoglio(Italy) copying the design and marketing in the US through Springfield Armory. The gun had reliability issues but EAA still sells them here.
CZ may some day build a factory in the US but until then they won't be a major factor in our police market. Availability of quick repairs and parts is also a big issue.
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