Sig P6 / P225

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I happened upon a ex-West German Police P6 in Lakeand a few weeks back.

First trip to the range found it needed an extractor. No problem got a new extractor so now it extracts fine but I find it need either a barrel or barrel repair.

FMJ Winchester 9mm luger ammo, get stuck on the way in between the frame ramp and barrel ramp. Seems the barrel had been monkeyed with.

Anyone know where I can find a good P6 or P225 9mm barrel.

Last resort I have to have my gunsmith add a little metal to the feel ramp on the barrel which appears a tad short and /or moves just a hair too far forward.

Any links to good P6 problem / repair pages welcomed, too. Thanks, guys.
 
model3sw said:
I happened upon a ex-West German Police P6 in Lakeand a few weeks back.

First trip to the range found it needed an extractor. No problem got a new extractor so now it extracts fine but I find it need either a barrel or barrel repair.

FMJ Winchester 9mm luger ammo, get stuck on the way in between the frame ramp and barrel ramp. Seems the barrel had been monkeyed with.

Anyone know where I can find a good P6 or P225 9mm barrel.

Last resort I have to have my gunsmith add a little metal to the feel ramp on the barrel which appears a tad short and /or moves just a hair too far forward.

Any links to good P6 problem / repair pages welcomed, too. Thanks, guys.
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Sig Sauer P225 9MM
This is the only one I could find.

Numrich is out of stock as well as other gun part dealers.
P225 Schematic | Numrich
 
Call SigSaur and ask about getting it fixed. When the flood of P6's hit this country they had a repair program where they would repair any defect, refinish and I believe install night sights. Pardon the pun, but worth a shot. Frank
 
+10 to Frank for his advice.

Sig has a refurbish program for most of their guns. You ship it to them, they take it completely down, replace springs and parts, add night sights all for $145 or so. The sights cost more than that, practically. You have to pay for shipping to them, they pick up the tab for its return (I seem to recall.)

I had my P6, 9mm 226, and 9mm 220 all done by Sig. Turn around time was pretty fast.

Try the Sig Forum and ask about it....those guys know as much about Sigs as people here know about S&W.

Here's the website for the forum, you can call Sig or go to their website for info on the rehab service.

SIG Talk - SIG Sauer Gun Forum
 
Try different ammo

Go buy yourself a box of 124 & 147 grain ammo with a bullet that is not so pointed. The P6’s were designed to shoot NATO spec ammo from the early 1980’s though the feed ramp was later changed.
 
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I have a very early P6 and the feedramp had to be polished in order for it to feed hollow points reliably. Maybe yours needs the same treatment.
 
If I recall, the West German police contract P6 pistols were intentionally fitted with a heavier trigger pull than the normal P225. If you send yours to SIG Sauer, ask about different springs or whatever is necessary to give your P6 the same trigger pull weight as the normal P225.

The P225, by any name (P6 or whatever) is one of the neatest guns ever made, as are the other two winners in the West German Police trials of the mid-1970s (the P5 by Walther and the P7 by HK).

You are to be congratulated on a fine acquisition.
 
shawn mccarver said:
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The P225, by any name (P6 or whatever) is one of the neatest guns ever made, as are the other two winners in the West German Police trials of the mid-1970s (the P5 by Walther and the P7 by HK).
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On a side note, looking at the genesis of this “neatest gun”, it really came about as a purely bureaucratic creature.

For various reasons, one of the most important being to ensure that no revolver could ever be considered, the “Pflichtenheft” (catalog of requirements) set fairly narrow size parameters for the new police pistol.

The 9mm Sig P220, a natural candidate since it had been successfully in service with the Swiss for some years, was too large.

So SigSauer decided to get a P220 all wet and then run it through a clothes dryer too hot, hoping it would shrink. The result was the P225/P6.

Well, not really, but the effect was the same. Everybody hated its looks, but it performed as well as the P220, so the majority of German states, and federal agencies, adopted it. That it was cheaper than both P5 and P7 also helped.

Most cops would have preferred the P226, which came out just a wee bit later, but .... of course, it was slightly too big for the “Pflichtenheft” limits. Unless they were a member of an SEK (SWAT), German cops had to wait for a double-stack capacity gun until the early 2000s.
 
I have a P6 and I love it.

I've rebuilt it, replacing most of the springs, swapped to the 19# mainspring, and added a SRT kit. It was intimidating at first because I am used to Smith internals and Glocks, but watching some of Ferrari Steve's youtube videos I was able to get through the P6. Now I am confident with sigs.
 
Absalom said:
On a side note, looking at the genesis of this “neatest gun”, it really came about as a purely bureaucratic creature.

For various reasons, one of the most important being to ensure that no revolver could ever be considered, the “Pflichtenheft” (catalog of requirements) set fairly narrow size parameters for the new police pistol.
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The Germans are the masters of that game, probably even better than our DoD.

Classic example. Back around 1990 the European Union was looking for ways to reduce car emissions. The French were giving Gallic shrugs, the Brits had a lean burn technology and the Germans, with their big US market, were heavily invested in catalytic converter systems.

The Germans managed to bamboozle the responsible EU committee (it's all those concatenated words with 32 syllables) such that when the regs came out, lean burn could not be used legally. Shocker, huh? :rolleyes:

Fast forward a few years and some lab did a real world emission tests in the UK similar to the ones that caught VW with their pants down over diesel. It was discovered that under typical British conditions, weather, driving distance etc, the new catalytic cvonverter equipped vehicles put out way more filth than a lean burn equipped vehicle. Thing is, it's pretty certain the Germans KNEW this, and had written the testing protocols to make darned sure the cat equipped cars were well warmed before they could be considered ready for testing. Priceless.
 
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Ματθιας;140209674 said:
This might be of interest to you. A replacement barrel.

Sig Sauer P225 9MM
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Thanks for the effort but that's a backorder only. Effort much appreciated. So far the Sig Overhaul plan seems to be the way to go as the barrel alone would cost as much as the whole overhaul program.
 
cndrdk said:
Just wondering if a p226 barrel would be the same as a p225? There is a NOS p226 barrel on eBay now.
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What I researched was the P226 barrel would need to be trimmed and fit to the P6/P225 but could be done.

Seems like an awful expensive way to go about it but, if we were in the desert being chased by Rommel, we'd MAKE it work,one way or other. :)
 
P226 barrel is longer. The closest is a p228.

I have a P6 and a P228. I attempted some swapping and found:

The 228 barrel won't unlock when placed in a P6 slide and placed in a P6 receiver.

However a 228 slide and barrel hand functions on a P6 frame.

It might just be the differences in my two examples that's not allowing an interchange, the swap may or may not work with other p228 and P6 examples, I don't know.
 
You might try contacting Barsto.com, as they have done runs of P6 match grade barrels in the past.
 
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