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Double Barreled 22 mag Revolver
Well this is an interesting new revolver. Never heard of Standard Mfg. before. Yeah it's ugly but I'd still like to shoot it.
FIRST LOOK: The 8-Capacity, Double Barrel Standard Mfg S333 Handgun
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Yep it's ugly. Seems to me that timing would be really tricky with a setup like that.
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It's a get off me pistol, belly to belly defensive ccw.
Not a target or range gun.
I like it.
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A PMR30 with a longer barrel and no gap is REALLY LOUD and this thing is going to REALLY REALLY LOUD.
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While there seems to be this idea that innovation in firearms is slow, there seems to be no shortage of folks taking essentially two guns, smashing them together and saying "whola!" I will say this looks far more interesting to me than the two barrelled 1911 that came out a year or two ago.
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Over the years I've learned that I have no use for 22 mag in any handgun.
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Over the years I've learned that I have no use for 22 mag in any handgun.
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I use to think that too until I bought a Ruger Single Six Hunter a few years ago. It has a 7.5" barrel and comes with both the 22lr and 22mag cylinders.
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Now that right there is the Edsel of hand guns.
Might be fun to shoot, but I don't know if I would want to admit I owned one.
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It fires two rounds with each pull of the trigger? Is that OK with the ATF?
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It fires two rounds with each pull of the trigger? Is that OK with the ATF?
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I was wondering that also. Maybe it’s because it’s a revolver vs a auto-loader??? IDK...
Either way it’s rather ugly and I’d prefer 1 158 grain 38 caliber bullet over their recommendation of 1 FMJ round and 1 birdshot round... Additionally you can get a S&W that fires a .357 Mag in a gun that’s 20% lighter than that thing.
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It fires two rounds with each pull of the trigger? Is that OK with the ATF?
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Interestingly, they consider multiple simultaneous shots from a single function of the trigger okay, just not repeated shots.
Volley guns are specifically exempt from NFA machine gun classification.
Makes sense, right?
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It's a get off me pistol, belly to belly defensive ccw.
Not a target or range gun.
I like it.
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Meh... there are much better options for “get off of me” guns....
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Standard Mfg Co is a sideline company of Connecticut Shotgun Mfg. Co, New Britain Ct.
http://www.stdgun.com/
Simple CNC mfg and assembly. That double bbl'd pump riot gun is theirs too and they sell bus loads of them.
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That. Is one ugly...
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Over the years I've learned that I have no use for 22 mag in any handgun.
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They make some interesting looking 1911s, and they're made in America.
The American Rifleman gave one of their 1911s a very favorable review. Click here to read it.
Their products look to be quality made right here in the U.S.A.
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Meh... there are much better options for “get off of me” guns....
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Different strokes for different folks. Everyone doesn't like the same thing.
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Because the ammo is ten times more expensive than 22lr, and in a handgun, about all it does better is make more noise.
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I could not agree with you more- everyone has opinions and choose firearms that best meet their needs/desires. But in this case, you get an 18 ounce revolver with only four chances of scoring a vital hit, and that with two small 40 grain projectiles. If recoil is an issue, a 22 WMR Ruger LCR gives you six chances in a lighter gun (I suspect with a greater chance of actually placing all six rounds where you actually want them). Better yet a .38 J-frame or LCR is lighter and gives you 5 chances with a much more substantial projectile.
Not arguing, however, that this is an extremely novel idea.....
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Because the ammo is ten times more expensive than 22lr, and in a handgun, about all it does better is make more noise.
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True. The slower burning powder in .22 WMR really needs enough barrel length to generate a significant velocity increase over .22LR: BBTI - Ballistics by the Inch :: Results
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No, just no. For an up-close-and-stopping-the-threat round I'll take something slower and heavier in .38 Special. Two .22 bullets side by side simultaneously don't seem to me to offer any advantage over two quick +P .38 rounds in less than a second and two or three inches apart.
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I could not agree with you more- everyone has opinions and choose firearms that best meet their needs/desires. But in this case, you get an 18 ounce revolver with only four chances of scoring a vital hit, and that with two small 40 grain projectiles. If recoil is an issue, a 22 WMR Ruger LCR gives you six chances in a lighter gun (I suspect with a greater chance of actually placing all six rounds where you actually want them). Better yet a .38 J-frame or LCR is lighter and gives you 5 chances with a much more substantial projectile.
Not arguing, however, that this is an extremely novel idea.....
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Ahem, this is the Smith and Wesson forum...
My 351c has 7 shots of .22WMR, (Maggie being superior to Long only in having a better bullet design for SD). My 43c holds eight, just like quasimoto here.
My 632 holds six rounds of .327 which on paper fits between .38+p and .357...
Js in .38, .357 have long proven track records...
JMO there are lots of better choices out there...
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Yeah, it's ugly, and 22WMR may be loud, and you won't get max performance out of it with that stubby little barrel, but you've got to hand it to them for being innovative. Their double barrel pump shotgun and 22lr Tommy gun are both pretty original too.
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Now that is odd. Notice that the actual trigger guard is only the front portion. Looks like the back portion is party of the trigger and must moves back as trigger is pulled. Think the little trigger is a safety type that must be pulled back by finger to let the trigger work.
But, to me the whole idea is kind of stupid. Agree that it is a solution in search of a problem.
I am also not a 22 mag guy. Just not that much of a jump up in power from a 22lr especially in handguns. No accuracy advantage. In rifles I have some 223s and in revolvers a 22Jet, a 22 Harvey Kay Chuck and a cylinder set up for 22TCM.
Don't get me wrong, I am sure the model 48s are sweet guns and the rifles do have some advantage over 22lr. But to me a 22lr is fine for rabbits squirrels, birds and vermin. But, if you need more than a 22lr why not go to a re loadable cartridge?
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The linked photos of the frame to me resemble a polymer Kimber revolver.
Kudos to the company for trying, but I would not be surprised if it falls flat in the marketplace.
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Interesting concept. Even the price isn't too bad when compared to what other new guns are priced at.
However, I would be a lot more tempted if they had just made it in .22 Long Rifle instead of the expensive magnum stuff.
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I predict that about 20 years down the road it will be an expensive collector item - primarily because it didn't sell well, it was an oddity, very few folks bought them and the upstart company went out of business. Kinda like the the Whitney Wolverine.
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AH, Nope. Can't see the advantage over any of the more useable weapons out there. You can deliver several shots from any number of semi auto's or small revolvers in fairly short order with better terminal ballistics.
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I would love to see one!
Would I buy one?
Not likely!
Like already posted,
It’s an answer looking for a question.
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Can attest to some people's fascination with .22 Mag. little guns for SD.
I think the lack of recoil and the 'magnum' moniker and the remarkably loud report lead them to believe they are getting some kind of real performance.
Sadly, such is not true.
With all that ear-ringing bang in a .22 Mag. snub, you're barely getting what a .22 LR will deliver from a rifle, and not much more than .22 LR from a 4"-6" handgun.
Best use I've found for my only .22 Mag. little gun, a Hi Standard derringer, is with shotshells. Does great on snakes at close distances.
Flat, light, barely know it's there.
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I predict that about 20 years down the road it will be an expensive collector item - primarily because it didn't sell well, it was an oddity, very few folks bought them and the upstart company went out of business. Kinda like the the Whitney Wolverine.
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Well I have been sitting on this odd ball 22 for over 20 years. Maybe one day the ship will come in and someone will offer me a new S&W in trade.
Just in case someone is interested, these were made by Ramline and I think it was in the mid 80's. I have never run across one of these anywhere. Would love to know how many were actually built. This is a plastic pistol that was way ahead of it's time.
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Don't get me wrong, I am sure the model 48s are sweet guns and the rifles do have some advantage over 22.....
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Some local farmers will permit varmint hunting if you use a 17 HMR or 22 mag rifle. Centerfires, too much noise.
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