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Old 08-22-2019, 07:35 PM
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I haven't figured out what I am fighting yet.

But, I bought this really nice knife in case I ever figure it out.

Love it.

Watcha got for 'fighting knives'? Or, Combat knives. I guess that's what mine is really defined as.

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Award-winning knife designers William W. Harsey and Chris Reeve teamed up with the director of the world's largest military hand-to-hand combat schools, Matt Larson of the Modern Army Combatives Program, to create the ultimate grappling weapon. They collaborated with Gerber to manufacture a knife that will last many tours. The LHR's full tang construction offers unsurpassed strength and balance. The handle is has grippy TacHide scales and a glass breaker pommel. The patent pending sheath incorporates an innovative retention mechanism to secure the knife from unwanted removal. The sheath's adjustable leg strap and MOLLE compatible belt loops are meant primarily for right side carry. The LHR is proudly made in the USA.


Overall Length:12.50"
Blade Length:6.87"
Blade Style: Drop Point
Finish:Black
Edge Type:Serrated
Handle Material:Rubber
Color:Black
Weight:11.20 oz.
Sheath:Polymer
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Model Number:30-000183
Best Use:Tactical
Blade Material:Stainless Steel (I believe it's 154CM Stainless Steel, bdGreen)
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Nepalese Government issue KUKRI.

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My dad picked up a batch of these when he was flying in and out of Kathmandu, Nepal from New Delhi, India, where we were living at the time (1970-1972). My dad flew in and out of Kathmandu on average, every six weeks or so, a trip that could be quite hazardous.
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Does look awesome bd. What steel is used on that blade?
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Don't have one. I had a 70's vintage Gerber MKII I got off an Air Force pilot in a trade about 1976. When my son's friend joined the USMC I gave it to him at his deployment party just before he left for Afghanistan. I figured he needed it more than I did, and the knife should fulfill it's destiny. Plus I made him promise to bring it home with him. He did. He still has it. I'm happy with the outcome.
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Best I can do is my old Gerber Mark I boot knife/dagger and included sheath. Wore it some back in the day. Purchased it around 1978 I think. I still see these old ones on Ebay once and awhile.

Anybody know how to date these blades? My serial number is 012257


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Does look awesome bd. What steel is used on that blade?

Blade Material:Stainless Steel (I believe it's 154CM Stainless Steel, bdGreen)

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Old 08-22-2019, 08:40 PM
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Before I went to Vietnam in 1968, I bought a Gerber Mk 1. It had a leather sheath with a sharpening steel included. I broke the guard, one side. All in all, it was an impractical knife for anything but last-ditch combat. I also carried a Marbles sheath knife which I got lots more use out of until I lost it.

I guess it was SS, the Gerber. Wish I still had it, could have got it fixed if I'd been stateside.
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I bought this at a knife show over 20 years ago, a Cold Steel Recon Tanto. It was a factory second.



Don't have any intentions of fighting with it, but I think it's a cool knife. Haven't tried hammering it through the side of a 55-gallon drum, but supposedly it can be done without damaging the tip.

I couldn't tell you what kind of blade steel it used, as I believe it's changed a time or two over the course of the product line.
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Some 30+ years ago, I spoke with Bob Terzuola at SOF in Vegas. I later ordered his Combat Master model. It was $225.00, big bucks for me to spend on a knife at the time. It has "Combat" in the name, so this must be my "fighting knife"
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Always wanted a V-42. Few years ago saw Boker had made a V-42. Bought it. Really nice. I keep it on my desk... either at the parsonage or at the church. It isn't really a fighting knife. After all ... most people don't expect a pastor to take a knife and fight. If that becomes necessary ... I turn the other cheek. When I run out of cheeks ... I get a grip on my Sig 226. I prefer to use the V-42 as my "tactical letter opener." Sincerely. bruce.
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The closest things I have to fighting knives are a USMC Ka-Bar Conchita gave me and my big Anzas. The Dune Field, in the middle, has a 5 3/4” blade. The Dune Slayer, with a 7 3/4” blade, just came today; no pics yet. The name says “mall ninja”, and it has some of those attributes. Not sure what I’m going to do with it, but I was so pleased with the Dune Field I couldn’t resist when I found one at a great price*.
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That is a very nice looking Gerber fixed blade.
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Some 30+ years ago, I spoke with Bob Terzuola at SOF in Vegas. I later ordered his Combat Master model. It was $225.00, big bucks for me to spend on a knife at the time. It has "Combat" in the name, so this must be my "fighting knife"
I wrote a profile on Terzuola for a knife magazine and recall examining his wares and being very impressed.

I think he called your model the M-30A1, and I think blade steel was D-2. Cutlery Shoppe later had a version made by high grade shops in Seki City, Japan, with 154CM blades. It's a terrific knife if you can find one. I have it in both the bright blade version and the dull gray finished one. Handles are checkered Zytel, pretty impervious to the elements. Alas, the sheaths disappointed me.

This is a very impressive combat and utility knife. Bob told me he got the idea for it from talking to CIA paramilitary people operating in Guatemala, where he lived at the time.

They were limited to describing what they'd seen, and the old M-3 trench knife was a favorite. Terzuola started there and refined that profile into a truly superior combat knife. Bob is a very gifted designer. You are quite fortunate to have that knife.

I've talked to some Special Forces men and they almost all favored the Randall Model 14. I like it a great deal.

The S F men who cited anything else weren't really into knives and were happy with the issued Ka-Bar knife made famous by the Marines..

When my son deployed to Iraq, I gave him a Fallkniven S-1. He thought it was too nice to risk and carried a Ka-Bar. I would have offered an A-1, but the smaller S-1 is handier for most needs and ls less likely to upset a commander who might ban large knives.

Today, my son uses his S-1 as a hunting knife and has an A-1 on his utility belt, which he wears on his land. Most of that property is wilderness and hosts wild pigs, deer, snakes, and he's seen two cougars.
Coyotes and bobcats thrive there. He wears a pistol, too, and occasionally wears a machete in the more remote areas.

Don't neglect a machete where it's practical. Mine are a 12" blade one from Corneta in El Salvador and an 18" blade with wood handle from Tramontina in Brazil. The latter has had the proud wooden handle sanded down to fit the tang well and was custom honed.

If I was deploying today, I'd probably agonize over a Terzuola M-30A-1, a Fallkniven A-1 or S1 and a Buck Model 119. The last is cost effective and if lost, can often be replaced at a PX or BX store for modest cost. Put green tape on the shiny butt and guard.

If I was aircrew, I'd choose the Fallkniven S-1. Most pilots prefer knives no larger. Cockpits are often pretty cramped, especially in fighters. I understand the S-1 fits the sheath on US survival vests and the knife has passed grueling Swedish and US trials and is available for unit purchase, having a National Stock Number for ordering.

Don't neglect to study how to use a knife in battle and where to stab or slash. The late Col. Rex Applegate did a pretty good job of describing that in his classic volume, Kill Or Get Killed. Fairbairn's booklet for British Commandos also shows vital arteries, etc.

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I bought a Cold Steel SRK probably 25 years ago. Haven't had a decent knife fight since, darn it. It will still shave the hairs clean off your arm with just the weight of the blade pressing down. I don't have any recent photos of it.

However I do have a picture of the Edge Mark 469 I bought on a whim not long ago. It's a shaver too.
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I've never considered myself a knife fighter either, but, more out of curiosity or what you might call an urge to collect interesting stuff, some years ago I acquired the two combat knives in use by the German army. They both have "Kampf" in the official name, so they're obviously for fighting

The "Kampfmesser KSK" is the all-black version of the Applegate-Fairbairn fighting knife made by Böker. It's in use by special operations forces; it looks cool, but is really not good for anything other than stabbing people, or maybe spearing cheese cubes at a party. 440C steel.

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The "Kampfmesser Infanterie", trade name KM 2000, made by two manufacturers, is the general issue combat knife. Interestingly, it has a tanto blade. Initially, 440A steel, like this one, in 2009 upgraded to Böhler N685.

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Both knives entered service just before German forces deployed to Afghanistan in 2002; they're still there, and as units have rotated back over the years, used KM 2000's show up on the surplus market complete with Afghan dirt, indicating serious use, although likely not heavy knife fighting.

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Not a “big” fighting knife, but my issued Benchmade AFOII is built as an all-purpose military knife, and I would not feel unarmed with it:

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Texas Star, My Terzuola knife is D-2, but is a model 18.
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Never saw the need to anything bigger than my 5" Ka-bar reproduction WWII MkI Deck Knife..............until I watched my first season of "The Walking Dead"!!!

I've added a Hogue EX-FO1 and a Ka-bar D2 Extreme Duty to my Zombie outbreak response kit!

Though I think the Short 5" Ka-Bar would be more practical in Penn's Woods.
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I bought a Cold Steel SRK probably 25 years ago. Haven't had a decent knife fight since, darn it. It will still shave the hairs clean off your arm with just the weight of the blade pressing down. I don't have any recent photos of it.

However I do have a picture of the Edge Mark 469 I bought on a whim not long ago. It's a shaver too.
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Best I can do is my old Gerber Mark I boot knife/dagger and included sheath. Wore it some back in the day. Purchased it around 1978 I think. I still see these old ones on Ebay once and awhile.

Anybody know how to date these blades? My serial number is 012257


I've got one of those, I think? It's put away if I didn't sell it. Also a kukri my dad brought back from Burma. My brother stole the one he carried there.

My personal "fighting" knife is a 1970's Randall No. 1. Standard 6" with leather handle and stone in the sheath.
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What are we fighting? (I'll need a heads up, you know right tool and all that.)
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I guess if we have a war in my yard, i'll be ready. that's about as far as I can walk now. here's some of mine that I can lay my hands on right now. I know I have more somewhere. a WWII bring-back Kukri, Ontario Knife Co RAT-3, a Wild Bill & Sons(Bill Caldwell-w. Monroe, LA) of my design and the only one he made with dark green linen micarta handle, another Wild Bill with aged Ivory micarta handle, Camillius US Navy Mk 2(found with metal detector and cleaned up best I could) and a Kelgin Tanto. lee
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Kelgin Tanto and a Randall Sergeant's model I forgot about earlier. just remembered this one too. DUH another Ontario Knife Co SP1.lee
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That is a good looking fixed blade.

My 15 minutes of Knife World Fame came in 2005 when the Command Staff of the Florida Highway Patrol asked me to come up with an Official Knife for the Patrol. They knew I was a knife guy after all I had showed them enough knives over the years

I worked with Beretta on this project since they were the provider of the Patrol's sidearm at that time as well as the previous issue handguns. The other reason is that Beretta also manufactured knives.

The knife I designed is of the liner lock style and I had the Florida Highway Patrol Patch laser etched on one scale and a removable pocket clip mounted on the other

The forward section of the grip is indented so the index finger can get a good hold on the knife in case of a fight

The knife blade is of the Tanto shape but half serrated to aid in rapidly cutting seat belts

Black was chosen as the finish of the knife and blade for no reason other than it looked cool OK, truth is we used black so that the FHP patch would look better on the knife

I had Teflon washers placed between the blade and the bolsters. The pivot point of the knife does not need oil. One of these knives did two tours in Afghanistan never being oiled.

The blade is 3 7/8" long and the knife has an overall open length of 8 3/4" this was done to conform to Federal Aviation Regulations (FAR). Specifically 14 CFR 108.11. I wanted to make sure these could be legally carried on US Commercial Aircraft

These knives could only be ordered from Beretta by the Florida Highway Patrol Academy or the Florida Highway Patrol store.









As a result of this collaboration, Beretta created the Law Enforcement Knife program with the Florida Highway Patrol knife as the cover photo



In 2006 the first knives were offered for sale to Troopers in the Florida Highway Patrol Store.

Beretta has since discontinued this program and these knives have not been available to the Patrol for many years

However 14 years latter, I am still carrying mine.
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My dad picked up a batch of these when he was flying in and out of Kathmandu, Nepal from New Delhi, India, where we were living at the time (1970-1972). My dad flew in and out of Kathmandu on average, every six weeks or so, a trip that could be quite hazardous.
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I carried a Gerber Guardian upside down on the suspenders of my ALICE gear all during my military service. It could be drawn with either hand, and was more used for daily chores than fighting.
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I never realized I had so many "fighting" knives until this post was started.

After thinking about it, I figured that I've got a couple that were actually designed as fighting knives. The first is a Randall Model 1-8.


Next would be the ubiquitous Kabar.


And finally, a SOG Agency.


However, if it boiled down to knives that could be effectively used for fighting, I'd probably include these, too.
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Since any knife can be used as a weapon I'll presume we mean purpose built and, in that case:



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This one was purpose built, to my specifications, as a western-style knife decoratively worn on my cowboy action shooting gunbelt - but since it's Old West it is a fighting knife:



Not sure if this qualifies or not - it's supposedly a skinning knife but I can see it has other uses:



I consider this folder a fighter:



I bleive I lost this one in last year's fire but I'll share the picture, anyway:



And a Bowie is always a fighting knife:

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Would this count?



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Would this count?



Walking Dead Season 4 ?????
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Walking Dead Season 4 ?????
I was actually thinking Samurai Delicatessen.

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Did someone say include machetes?

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I was actually thinking Samurai Delicatessen.






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This is my 'woods' knife. Hack and slash at will. It balances real well and has a comfortable grip.

ESEE-6

I carry it when I am tromping around the fields and the woods.

I never feel 'underknifed' when carrying this jewel. Love it.

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[QUOTE=ISCS Yoda;140524826]Since any knife can be used as a weapon I'll presume we mean purpose built and, in that case:

This one was purpose built, to my specifications, as a western-style knife decoratively worn on my cowboy action shooting gunbelt - but since it's Old West it is a fighting knife:



"Not sure if this qualifies or not - it's supposedly a skinning knife but I can see it has other uses:"

I love that one. I can see it was from Brownsville. Can't make out the name.

It looks serious enough for anything you might feel like doing with it.

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My Seki Japan SOG, it’s really cool!






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Thanks for all the pics. Looks like I need a couple new knives.
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I have a mad dog knife that was designed by a nasa scientist for Navy specwar peeps. I never did any fighting with it but it is really cool.
I also have this custom knife made sometime in the 60s in Seattle for a great man and dear friend, a long retired frogman.
It is a wonderful knife that shed blood in vietnam. Dont know much about it because the fellow that gave it to me has passed on.
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I bought this at a knife show over 20 years ago, a Cold Steel Recon Tanto. It was a factory second.



Don't have any intentions of fighting with it, but I think it's a cool knife. Haven't tried hammering it through the side of a 55-gallon drum, but supposedly it can be done without damaging the tip.

I couldn't tell you what kind of blade steel it used, as I believe it's changed a time or two over the course of the product line.
I've got 2 of those still in the box. Mine are the Carbon V version made in the USA by Camillus.
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I have a modestly sized collection of knives. At least half of them could be considered fighting knives. But the one I would want is the one I have had the longest. It was given to me when I was 16 (1961) by a neighbor who was a Seattle PD homicide detective. Its a Marbles Ideal Knife. If going hiking, backpacking, camping etc this is the one I use.
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I was actually thinking Samurai Delicatessen.

My favorite was Samurai Optometrist.

"These were supposed to be bifocals."
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Best I can do is my old Gerber Mark I boot knife/dagger and included sheath. Wore it some back in the day. Purchased it around 1978 I think. I still see these old ones on Ebay once and awhile.

Anybody know how to date these blades? My serial number is 012257


Here is one I just sold. Had it since the early 80's. I wrote to Gerber to get it dated by the serial number and they weren't much help.

They are a very solid knife.

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Here are a couple of the most tried and true fighting knives. One from the late 40's and another from the Vietnam era. Both USN
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[QUOTE=Mule Packer;140524762]I never realized I had so many "fighting" knives until this post was started.

After thinking about it, I figured that I've got a couple that were actually designed as fighting knives. The first is a Randall Model 1-8.


I think this beautiful revolver wins the prize, oh, and the Randall.

Have a blessed day,

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If I am ever invited to a knife fight, I'm taking this one. :-)

Have a blessed day,

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Don't know if this one counts but it's one I made 25 years ago.

8 1/2 inch carbon steel blade with a overall length of 13 inches.
Handle is polished elk with some amateurish scrimshaw that I did just on a whim.
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I think. overall, the Randall No. 1 takes the cake. Probably been used in every theatre of operations since WWII (1942, I think!) and every elite US Force (often optional). I saw my first with a Green Beret returning from 'Nam in 1971. Had mine since 1973 and done several elk, deer and many wild pigs (as well as more than a few steaks around the campfire!)
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