Sig P226 9mm DAK

scoobysnacker · Jan 21, 2020

I picked this one up yesterday. I hadn't been to the range since around Thanksgiving, doing home repairs. I made it out yesterday, just brought my old West German P226 and rattled off a couple hundred rds.

As we were cleaning up afterwards, the guy at the counter said he had something for me; came out with a P226 DAK in 9mm, in pretty good condition. There's a scuff on the beavertail, and some marks on the slide, what looks to be holster wear. Currently has the Hogue wraparounds and 1 mag, he said he can get the original grips and additional mag for me no charge, and will call when they come in.
Told me $350 cash.

I laughed, and then asked where the nearest ATM was... 30 minutes later it came home with me.

I'm unsure of the DAK trigger, and how I will like it. I was out of ammo so I didn't shoot it yesterday, I will go back up and run some through today. Trigger seems smooth, if a little long. NOT a big fan of the Hogues, but that should be addressed when he gets the originals for me; in any event they are comfortable.

Clearly a later generation than my West German, this has a solid stainless slide instead of the carbon steel my older one has. Has dim night sights, has Sigarms Exeter on the slide, Made in Germany (with a rail) on the frame.

Mag has Sig on the left, made in Italy (mecgar) on the back.
No box. I keep my guns in cigar boxes at home anyway, and I do have a gray Sigarms case that I got for cheap, that I use when I take my other one anywhere.

Pictures in route, gonna be cheap phone pics for now. But it's clean.

So, I know the DAK isn't in nearly as high a demand, and I'm already looking into what it would cost to convert over to DA/SA. I prefer 9mm over .40 since that's what I already stock.

Did I get a fair deal, good deal, or overpay?

scoobysnacker · Jan 21, 2020

Pics

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added- sorry for the pic quality, I will take more.
The rail isn't as beat up as it looks, that is more of the lighting.

fmflorida · Jan 21, 2020

$350 for that SIG is an amazing price.

As for converting it from DAK to DA/SA you can get the parts for around $150-200 and convert it yourself.

I believe Midway and Brownells sells the parts you need but Im not 100% sure. There are forums about it though its a pretty easy process from what I gather.

RoyM52 · Jan 21, 2020

shoot it a lot before doing any conversion. You might find it to be better than you think. I prefer the DAK for it's simplicity and extremely refined trigger. Very safe pistol , de-cocks itself. No gizmo's {don't really need two the same anyway}{you stole it for $350.}

Rubone · Jan 21, 2020

I picked up this West German (YOM 1990) last summer. It was unfired and came with the Pachmayr magazines, the ammo it was purchased with, and a shoulder rig. I was thrilled to get the package at about $400 as part of a small group I bought. I think you did quite well on your newest.

scoobysnacker · Jan 21, 2020

Better pics I hope

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dmthomp32 · Jan 21, 2020

I agree. I'd keep it the way it is for a while at least. I've never been as interested in having a bunch of the same gun in the same caliber. Might as well enjoy it's DAK trigger, I know a lot of people like them that way. I think $350 is a great deal, the DAK's seem to pull slightly less money but rarely do you see a decent condition sig p series pistol for under $400.

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29aholic · Jan 21, 2020

Do the conversion parts to go from DAK to SA/DA include the decocker?

Professor Frink · Jan 21, 2020

I for one, really like the DAK, but then, for the longest time I wanted my semi-autos to feel like a revolver.

I think the DAK does that very well.

fmflorida · Jan 21, 2020

29aholic said:
Do the conversion parts to go from DAK to SA/DA include the decocker?

Yes youd need to add the decocker.

LVSteve · Jan 21, 2020

Professor Frink said:
I for one, really like the DAK, but then, for the longest time I wanted my semi-autos to feel like a revolver.

I think the DAK does that very well.

...and yet every time a manufacturer comes out with a semi-auto with a revolver like trigger, the reset mafia cry foul.

Sig gave us the P250 and P290 pistols that are DAO with restrike and they work fine, but EVERY review you read in the gun comics will include a diatribe about the lack of reset and/or the reviewer's preference for a 1911SA trigger. They are unable to grasp the concept of a "square revolver" with a true DAO trigger.

scoobysnacker · Jan 21, 2020

Took it to the range; no failures in 200 rds. Trigger is nice and smooth, if long.
Seems accurate enough, but is a significant change from what I'm used to shooting. I get the first shot or two on target (actually on bullseye), but start drifting down into a big spread over a mag. I'm having a lot of trouble keeping it on paper (an unfolded ammo box) even at 7-10 yds).

In contrast, with my preferred DA/SA guns, that's the time I tighten things up, and get a consistent group.

Gonna give it some time, and my son likes it. Worst case scenario he has his birthday present

RoyM52 · Jan 21, 2020

The first shot or two are the most important.

scoobysnacker · Jan 21, 2020

RoyM52 said:
The first shot or two are the most important.

Yeah, I'm not quite grasping what is happening...

1st shot or so tends to be on target, and then it gets bad... down and with a widened spread.

Towards the end I started to do an actual reset of position, bringing the gun down after 1-2 shots, which help. If I take a break and let my son shoot a mag in between, I start over with accuracy.

HE seems to be pretty consistent with it. So there's that.

What I THINK is happening, is that it's interfering with my muscle memory. I'm used to a longer, heavier first pull (DA), and this fits ok with that. My DA/SA West German isn't a lot worse in DA, than this is; nor my CZ or Daewoo. But then I'm used to rhythmically firing off a burst of 4-5 more in SA, with a shorter reset and lighter pull, and that is going haywire when I attempt to do that with this.

ContinentalOp · Jan 21, 2020

scoobysnacker said:
What I THINK is happening, is that it's interfering with my muscle memory. I'm used to a longer, heavier first pull (DA), and this fits ok with that. My DA/SA West German isn't a lot worse in DA, than this is; nor my CZ or Daewoo. But then I'm used to rhythmically firing off a burst of 4-5 more in SA, with a shorter reset and lighter pull, and that is going haywire when I attempt to do that with this.

That was my first thought when I saw your post.

If you don't mind a suggestion, on your next range visit, just do single shots. Aim, fire a shot, finger off trigger, then lower the gun down to a low ready. Do this for each shot. After a few strings like this, fire two shots before lowering, then repeat with three shots, and so on. I think it might help overcome your DA/SA muscle memory.

FWIW, I do a drill like this with my DA/SA gun, decocking between each shot. Then I shoot SA only, followed by DA/SA pairs, and so on.

FYI, I've never shot a DAK, but I nearly bought a P239 SAS DAK when they first came out. As a revolver guy, I really liked the DAK trigger.

dr. mordo · Jan 21, 2020

Professor Frink said:
I for one, really like the DAK, but then, for the longest time I wanted my semi-autos to feel like a revolver.

I think the DAK does that very well.

I completely agree. I have a DAK .40 P226 with night sights, and IMO it is the perfect beside gun. For many years, I had a 1911 as my bedside gun, but in a moment of clarity I realized a light SAO trigger might not be the best idea if I'm half asleep and possibly half drunk but responding to a noise in the house.

The DAK trigger gives me more of a margin of error. I don't have to fiddle with a decocker or a safety. It's like a slightly less reliable revolver with a 12 round cylinder and night sights.

dr. mordo · Jan 21, 2020

LVSteve said:
...and yet every time a manufacturer comes out with a semi-auto with a revolver like trigger, the reset mafia cry foul.

Sig gave us the P250 and P290 pistols that are DAO with restrike and they work fine, but EVERY review you read in the gun comics will include a diatribe about the lack of reset and/or the reviewer's preference for a 1911SA trigger. They are unable to grasp the concept of a "square revolver" with a true DAO trigger.

This is also because the horrific Glock trigger has become the standard, so even a great DAO trigger seems incredibly long and unusable to the youth who grew up with guns built by a curtain rod designer.

kraynky · Jan 22, 2020

My 229 DAK is a great shooter. DAK works best when you release the trigger all the way each time. It is lighter and more consistent pull than when you just let it out to reset, and then fire again.

If you're mixing it up and doing it both ways with the same mag, you're going to get sloppy results. It's an odd trigger that takes getting use to, but worth it when you do it right every time.

scoobysnacker · Jan 22, 2020

kraynky said:
My 229 DAK is a great shooter. DAK works best when you release the trigger all the way each time. It is lighter and consistent pull than when you just let it out to reset, and then fire again.

If you're mixing it up and doing it both ways with the same mag, you're going to get sloppy results. It's an odd trigger that takes getting use to, but worth it when you do it right every time.

Well, that's my problem

My natural rhythm has been to squeeze off 1 DA, and then pump a few SA while riding the reset. Maybe that's been lazy, but it has produced some satisfying groups, and in worst case scenario I'd feel competent hitting a moving target quickly.

This will take some getting used to, I don't plan on giving up after 1 session acclimating.
And maybe part of the problem I had was that there was an academy training session going on while I was there, we were stuck in the last open booth. In addition to getting used to the gun, I was trying to not shoot while their instructor was giving orders out. And at the same time, I clearly wasn't ready to run their drills with this pistol, which, while trying not to, was noticeable to me. I think I'd have done better if we were in there alone.

Old_Cop · Jan 22, 2020

We carried .40 DAK in my last department. It is an accurate combination but does require practice. The trigger is long and smooth and best used from fully forward. There is a shorter reset which will fire the gun, but it increases the weight of pull. Like a revolver you cannot get a sight picture and grab the trigger, this will give you vertical stringing.

Got mine as a retirement gift and later bought a 9mm barrel and converted to DA/SA. It's best to look for a package deal on the parts from some one who went the opposite direction.

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