Pistol Caliber Carbines

[Greyman50]

I also have a 10mm LCC and the trigger was a little over 7 lbs. I ordered a spring kit from www.mcarbo.com and installed it. Trigger is now just over 3 lbs. I also put a Monstrum 4X prism scope on it. Saturday, I was hitting 1 ft round plates with it at 100 yds. They dance when hit. I like it better now.

I’m calling Mcarbo today to order the trigger, springs / pins and muzzle break. I can not believe how bad the trigger is. The creep is the worst I’ve ever felt in 60 some years. Come on Ruger, you can do better.

 

[Jim_Sl]

I have several matching caliber pistols and long guns. It wasn’t something I was trying to do, it was just luck I guess.

Ruger Single Six / Marlin 39A (22 LR)
S&W 586 and 686 / Marlin 1894 (357 magnum)
Ruger Super Blackhawk / Marlin 1894 (44 magnum)

 

[THE PILGRIM]

Don’t have one, yet.
Not sure if I ‘need’ one, but they sure look like fun!

 

[BLACKHAWKNJ]

Marlin Camp Carbines in 9MM and 45ACP, Marlin 1894C in 357, Marlin 1894 in 44 Magnum, looking for an 1894 in 41 Magnum (Good Luck !), mulling a Henry in 41 Magnum. I have a Spanish Destroyer carbine in 9MM Largo. The Camp Carbines have steel receivers which I prefer.
A project that intrigues me is a carbine with interchangeable barrels in 9MMP and 38 Super taking M1911 magazines.
Technically speaking all my 22 LR rifles are "pistol caliber."

 

[.357magger]

The current PCC's serve the same function as the M-1 Carbine in that they are gunfighter tools. They are easier to shoot accurately and hit harder than their pistol cousins. For under 100 yards they are definitely useful.

Nothing wrong imo with the original either for that role, although I don't really want a handgun in the same caliber for this one.

Mine is a 1943 Standard Products

 

[Green Frog]

It’s no secret that I love the 327 Fed Mag, so much so in fact that I’ve had a custom S&W stainless K frame built in this caliber (Project 616) and more recently a Ruger #3. The 327 FM is up on the upper range of pistol performance, then makes a pleasant, manageable carbine loading. Win-win!
Froggie

 

[dpsmousegunner]

I have a S&W FPC 9mm that I regularly shoot USPSA and steel completions. The carbine is a 100% reliable tac driver, with over 4K rounds thought it. I can’t hardly make it though a match with out other shooters, to include some PCC ones, inquiring about it. I find it light and extremely handy in shooting around walls and other barricades. It is clearly my most favorite shooter.

 

[BB57]

I think when it comes to some pistol rounds and some roles, a pistol caliber carbine makes sense.

I like the MP5 as its easily suppressed for home defense when loaded with a suitable 147 gr hollow point. And its also quite effective out to around 200 yards.

With a 115 gr or 124 gr hollow point, properly loaded with a slower burning powder to make the most of the 8.3" barrel it approaches .357 Magnum revolver performance.

The same is true with 9mm AR-15s. With a Ballistic Advantage barrel and a good load, its a solid 1 MOA carbine with a 200 yard effective range. Again, like the MP5 its a very good personal defense weapon but with enough accuracy to be a very good truck gun.

Where a pistol caliber carbine or rifle really shines is in .357 Mag. a 20" barrel will launch a standard factory loaded federal 158 gr JSP at 1820 fps, where it gives impressive performance on deer out to around 150 yards where it still delivers more energy than a 4" revolver at the muzzle. A 125 gr bullet can be loaded to 2210 fps with equally impressive 150 yard performance. Mine give solid 5 shot 2 MOA accuracy with tang sights.

Carbines in .44 Mag and hot loaded .45 Colt have similarly impressive performance from rifles and carbines, although recoil starts to get abusive in these lightweight weapons.

 

[Rock185]

I have 9mm, .357 and .44 PCCs, along with 5.56, .30-30 and .350Rem. Mag. rifles with 20" or shorter barrels. Though they could serve in that role, I don't think of the PCCs as SD weapons. They are really just fun plinkers to me. I tell people my PCCs are just like .22s, except they kick up more dirt when I miss;-)

 

[Michaelp57]

Some above have said that they love em all. That is the camp that I find myself in. I love my ARs and lever guns in rifle calibers, but I also really enjoy shooting my scorpion and my Ruger LC carbine 45. In any legally justifiable self defense situation, a PCC will do just as well as a rifle, but without as much noise.

 

[rwsmith]

..... I some may accuse me of having too many in lever-gun form! ...

SAY IT AIN'T SO!!!

 

[rwsmith]

I am generally of the opinion that a PCC cannot do anything better than a carbine in 5.56. I have carried a 5.56 carbine as a truck gun for a long time now and killed an ark load of varmints, assorted pests, and game animals up to elk, as well as sick cattle with very good performance. It’s quiet with a silencer and recoil is low enough that getting multiple pigs out of a group is very common. With 75-77 grain bullets it kills like people who haven’t tried it cannot believe. Plus it uses probably the most commonly available and inexpensive magazines on this continent and offers a much flatter trajectory than any common pistol cartridge......

That's fine, but sometimes I don't need or want the power of a 5.56. If I do, I'll pick up my AR. I think I would call your preference a 'ranch rifle'. Around the suburbs it would take a violent (even that is unlikely) riot for me to resort to a 5.56.

 

[rwsmith]

Ballistics by the Inch: 9mm from a 16 inch barrel ; muzzle velocity of 1100-1379-1740 FPS ; with muzzle energy of 380-450- 620 Ft-lb

 

[rwsmith]

Ballistics by the Inch: 9mm from a 16 inch barrel ; muzzle velocity of 1100-1379-1740 FPS ; with muzzle energy of 380-450- 620 Ft-lb

I've been testing a 95 grain bullet from a 9mm PCC at 1720 fps. Come out to 624 ft-lbsf.

 

[rwsmith]

Interesting issue. I want a carbine/short rifle in the 7.5 BRNO. There isn't one made by anyone, the brace for the handgun is too expensive and requires an ATF license. I have thought of finding a busted up carbine of sorts and re-barrelling it. Probably not worth the money to do it.

That is interesting. There are cartridges very similar in caliber, size and bottleneck construction, but nothing that gets near the velocity of the BRNO.

 

[rwsmith]

Personally, I really like having a handgun and a rifle in the same caliber. On pack trips with the pack string, my sidearm is normally my Ruger Blackhawk in .45 Colt. It's companion, my truck gun, is a Rossi Model 1892 in .45 Colt.

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I also have a Marlin 1894 in .38 special/.357 magnum that I pair with my Smith and Wesson Model 27-2. Do I plan on any long-range hunting with those rifles? Nope. But they're handy to carry and I don't have to be packing two different calibers of ammo.

Drooling..........

 

[WildBillWJW]

Big fan of the carbine handgun same caliber set:

 

[WildBillWJW]

And my favorites…Colt and Winchester all 45 LC.

 

[Smoke]

I had a Ruger PCC in 40 Smith & Wesson. It was the old one that took the Ruger P94 magazines. That's one of the reasons I sold it because I prefer something more compatible with my handgun

I wouldn't mind having a Ruger PCC that took Glock and/or M&P9 magazines.

I'm really considering a lever action .357 for coyotes when we move.

 

[RGNewell]

9MM WITH AAC TI-RANT