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Glock leg vs. revolver leg. Discuss...
Does anyone make a truly double action striker fired pistol???
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Glock leg vs. revolver leg. Discuss...
It is the same - the fact that the trigger pull is exactly the same for first and second strike is proof.
Like I said, if the striker were partially "pre-cocked" for the first strike the trigger pull for the second strike would be different - and it isn't. The trigger pull cocks and releases the striker exactly the same for first AND second strikes, and we know that for second strike it isn't "pre-cocked" so since the trigger pull is the same for both first and second strike it cannot be "pre-cocked" for first strike either. If it were the trigger pulls would be doing different amounts of work and would feel different. They don't - so therefore they are the same, and therefore the striker is at rest before both first AND second strikes.
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You might consider a DAO.. like a 3953
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Yep..Racking the slide only resets the trigger. Same as live fire cycling..
One possible solution is a "trigger holster". Just slides over the trigger to prevent contact. Very safe. You can tie the lanyard to your belt or belt loop. Viola.
I carry my "shoots around corners" model 442 like this at home all the time.....in my jeans watch pocket no less. (no, this is not my 442)
I carry my "shoots around corners" model 442 like this at home all the time.....in my jeans watch pocket no less. (no, this is not my 442)
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The Keltec PF9 is DAO hammer fired. I really like it, especially at the price point. I bought a used one with laser and belt clip for 210.00 landed. It runs and runs.
1sailor
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Since you're already comfortable with J frames, why are you wanting to switch to a semi? Not saying I prefer one over the other for carry just wondering why you want to switch.
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What about the Walther P99 and P99c, with the AS trigger?
The AS trigger acts like a DA pull (long 12 lbs. trigger), and subsequent shots are short, 5 lbs
It's essentially a striker fired DA/SA gun.
I've been interested in it myself. 007 used it!
The AS trigger acts like a DA pull (long 12 lbs. trigger), and subsequent shots are short, 5 lbs
It's essentially a striker fired DA/SA gun.
I've been interested in it myself. 007 used it!
The RM 380 is DAO, not striker fired. If they would just chamber it in 9MM like its Rohrbaugh cousin.
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The better answer, much as it will not go over well, is a good quality pocket holster. I carry that way almost all the time with complete confidence and comfort. The one I use most is a Kramer leather product that I have had for ... most of 20 years. I expect it to last the rest of my life.
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That’s what I was thinking. The button on the top decocks the striker to a DA mode.
Or buy a DAO Smith like a 3953 or 6946.
Oops. Just saw you wanted pocket carry. Ruger LC9. Original model, not the LC9S. It’s a hammer fired gun but a long trigger pull. Very safe for pocket carry. I seem to remember it had double strike capability. Manual safety, too. And magazine disconnect but you can remove that. Uses same mags as the LC9S and EC9S so mags and holsters are sill plentiful. And used you can get one for under $200.
I fee the same as you. I have a few striker fired guns and they all have manual safeties. I’m just more comfortable with hammer fired guns. My carry is an LC9S.
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I carried a S&# 38 bare in my pocket for a few years and still have my scrotum. It takes a lot of force to pull the trigger on a DA revolver. That was back when apparently jeans had bigger pockets. (See next paragraph.)
I've got a Sig 365 and trust its trigger and safety, which I don't use. Better in a pocket holster, safety wise, and I have one with intent to carry front pocket-wise. The gun fits without printing and is entirely safe, but getting it out takes more time than any other holster I have, and I have quite a few. The pistol wants to rotate butt forward until it's more or less horizontal in my pocket. I don't remember this happening back in my 38 days.
Same with a J-frame. Easier to carry it naked but still slow to deploy.
Of course, you have to pay attention to the inner man who tells you not to pocket carry a striker fired pistol, but I think a lot of it's psychological.
I've got a Sig 365 and trust its trigger and safety, which I don't use. Better in a pocket holster, safety wise, and I have one with intent to carry front pocket-wise. The gun fits without printing and is entirely safe, but getting it out takes more time than any other holster I have, and I have quite a few. The pistol wants to rotate butt forward until it's more or less horizontal in my pocket. I don't remember this happening back in my 38 days.
Same with a J-frame. Easier to carry it naked but still slow to deploy.
Of course, you have to pay attention to the inner man who tells you not to pocket carry a striker fired pistol, but I think a lot of it's psychological.
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I’m surprised no one has mentioned a Sig P290.
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I own a full size Sig P250 in .45acp and I like it for it's DAO firing mechanism. It feels rather safe when one is in the pipe due to the long trigger sequence. No external safety. It's the same feeling as having a fully loaded DAO revolver........except with doublestrike capability if warranted.
Due to shooting revolvers it's long DAO trigger doesn't bother me at all accuracy wise. In fact I jokingly refer to it as my 10-shot .45acp revolver. (Well actually 10+1 when I feel the need for such.)
The P250 gets poo'd on a lot for it's long DAO trigger.........primarily from those used to shooting single action type handguns I feel. With practice one can learn to stage the P250's trigger much like any double action revolver for more precision work.
Practicing with the P250 has definitely made me a better SA and DA shooter!
I feel this is also the reason I enjoy my 642 (DAO) revolver so much.
I paid $400 NIB for my Sig P250 about 10 years or so ago, maybe a tad longer than that even. I did buy a spare mag as it only came with 1.........which I thought was unusual but maybe they were trying to keep the cost as low as possible for purchasers.(?)
I'd love to have a subcompact P250 kit (in 9x19) for my fire control group as they are interchangeable........but for what they want price wise for the parts you can buy a complete 'nother gun!
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I was thinking....
My Keltec P11 is the same way.
In fact, I think all my DAO only pistols are......
I have an S&W 5943 and an S&W Shield and a Sig P250 and they all work the same way, I think.
Edit: Oh, I suppose the Sig and the Third Gen have hammers, but the Keltec is striker, I guess. I'll have to look closer.
My Keltec P11 is the same way.
In fact, I think all my DAO only pistols are......
I have an S&W 5943 and an S&W Shield and a Sig P250 and they all work the same way, I think.
Edit: Oh, I suppose the Sig and the Third Gen have hammers, but the Keltec is striker, I guess. I'll have to look closer.
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LVSteve
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It's funny that the OP asked about striker fired guns and most of the suggestions given relate to hammer fired, both external and internal. Even then many of those are not true DAO guns as they require a degree of hammer precock from the slide.
As for the original question, I think only Taurus have built semiautos that could remotely be considered DAO with a striker and make them small enough to be considered for pocket carry. The G2S and G2C come to mind. Read this review and make up your own minds.
Gun Review: Taurus G2C 9mm Pistol - The Truth About Guns
In hammer fired guns, I can only the SCCY CPX series, Sig P250 subcompact and P290RS meet the pocket carry and full DAO requirements AFAIK.
As for the original question, I think only Taurus have built semiautos that could remotely be considered DAO with a striker and make them small enough to be considered for pocket carry. The G2S and G2C come to mind. Read this review and make up your own minds.
Gun Review: Taurus G2C 9mm Pistol - The Truth About Guns
In hammer fired guns, I can only the SCCY CPX series, Sig P250 subcompact and P290RS meet the pocket carry and full DAO requirements AFAIK.
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The Kel Tec P11 is DAO but has a hammer. The part is so small and unobtrusive that insisting on a gun with a striker that functions the same way seems a bit much.
You can always go back to the first modern DAO striker model, the HK VP-70. Trying to get through a full magazine on that one without your trigger finger cramping up big time is a major challenge.
You can always go back to the first modern DAO striker model, the HK VP-70. Trying to get through a full magazine on that one without your trigger finger cramping up big time is a major challenge.
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challer61
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Then get a P250 compact or sub compact. It is a DA only, hammer fired P320. All the grips and barrels of the P320 work with it.
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Yes but the line "what I want is hammer fired P365" leads to hammer fired suggestions.
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