6.5 Creedmoore, what is the allure?

Its crazy accurate! Most accurate rifle I've ever shot and mine is based on a stock Ruger chassis with excellent NF glass. Anything under a 1000y is not even a challenge. Last time out shooting 300y I'm looking for broken pieces of clays on the berm behind the steel target to shoot. 3 shots, 3 hits later on small pieces I was good to go lmao.
 

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The firearms industry is like all others. It needs to keep reinventing itself to be relevant and successful. Some "new" ideas and products are sort of "huh-what" ?? Remember the Ford Edsel ?? :D
 
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I have hunted a couple of places, including the Wichita National Wildlife Refuge draw hunts, that specify .270 as the minimum caliber allowed for the elk hunt. I sold my 7mm magnum and use my .270 Win Model 70 for everything from coyotes to caribou and elk.

I asked a Federal game warden how they picked .270, and he didn't know. The Alaska game regulations also specifically mention to "bring the .270 you can shoot accurately instead of the .375 you just bought" for moose and caribou.
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I went on a plains game hunt in South Africa a few years back. My friend who invited me told me I HAD to buy a 300 ultra mag or win mag to use on the trip. Met with the outfitter at a Safari Club event and told him what my friend said and also told him I had a Remington 760 in 30-06 that I had been shooting for 40 years and was like a third arm...his reply, "Then don't bring anything else."

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Interesting topic/thread.

My opinion of the 6.5 Creedmoor is good, but I don't feel the need to own one.
Most of the guys I know that have 6.5CM are target shooters that wanted something "new."
New doesn't disqualify it for me, but I already have the hunting rifles covered, which is my true use.
Sure, I like to practice killing some paper and work up accurate loads. I just don't see a big advantage over .308 since I can reload a variety of bullet designs & weights. I can download lighter bullets for target use if I wanted to, but why bother with that since I won't hunt with it.
The 6.5CM fans all laud the 1000y accuracy and the lower recoil and that sounds nice. For me, that just isn't enough to start over with another rifle caliber.
 
Nothing wrong with the 6.5 calibers. The Scandinavians have been killing moose with the 6.5 x 55 for over a century. The recent players, 260 Rem and 6.5 Creedmore, are just a reinvention of the wheel based on the 308 Winchester.
What probably hurts the Swede is the fact that many of the older actions are not as strong as the later Mauser 98s and so pressures should be kept lower. That and the fact that the case is an original design, not based on anything else.

There have been some pretty good deals on 6.5 CM rifles. A hunting friend bought a Savage Axis 2 years ago that cost him around $250 after a rebate. That's a heck of a price for a good entry level deer rifle. and it shoots great with factory ammo.

I'm surprised that nobody mentioned the 264 Win Mag, the perfect 6.5 for those who need to compensate for their shortcomings. A little short on barrel life but it's right up there with the 7mm rem Mag for long range plains and mountain shooting and recoil whackability.

The one thing about the 6.5 cartridges is the sectional density of the bullets give great long range accuracy and awesome penetration, regardless of bullet weight. The caliber just seems to be in that sweet spot design wise.

John
 
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Nothing wrong with the 6.5 calibers. The Scandinavians have been killing moose with the 6.5 x 55 for over a century. The recent players, 260 Rem and 6.5 Creedmore, are just a reinvention of the wheel based on the 308 Winchester.
What probably hurts the Swede is the fact that many of the older actions are not as strong as the later Mauser 98s and so pressures should be kept lower. That and the fact that the case is an original design, not based on anything else.

There have been some pretty good deals on 6.5 CM rifles. A hunting friend bought a Savage Axis 2 years ago that cost him around $250 after a rebate. That's a heck of a price for a good entry level deer rifle. and it shoots great with factory ammo.

I'm surprised that nobody mentioned the 264 Win Mag, the perfect 6.5 for those who need to compensate for their shortcomings. A little short on barrel life but it's right up there with the 7mm rem Mag for long range plains and mountain shooting and recoil whackability.

The one thing about the 6.5 cartridges is the sectional density of the bullets give great long range accuracy and awesome penetration, regardless of bullet weight. The caliber just seems to be in that sweet spot design wise.

John
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I was intrigued by the .264 magnum for years, but after doing considerable load development and shooting three of them over the last ten years, the intrigue has worn off. Much handloading data from the '60s that many assumed was safe turned out to be too hot. It's still a slightly faster and flatter shooting cartridge than the .270 Winchester, but the real field difference is insignificant at best if you're shooting at distances of under about 500 yards as most of us do.

I'm not a big fan of the 7mm Remington Magnum, but it's really a better and more versatile cartridge than the .264 Magnum, not by a great deal, but the difference is there. However, a hunter who shoots a .270 well gives up very little or nothing to the two magnum cartridges.
 
I'm not a big fan of the 7mm Remington Magnum, but it's really a better and more versatile cartridge than the .264 Magnum, not by a great deal, but the difference is there. However, a hunter who shoots a .270 well gives up very little or nothing to the two magnum cartridges.
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Not a magnum fan here either. My favorite all around rifle cartridge is the (gasp!) 30-06. Hard to beat it's versatility. My 6.5 Swede is a old parts gun that I sporterized on the cheap and re-sighted with a Lyman receiver peep. It's my foul weather gun and has performed wonderfully on many whitetails. The receiver sight is a fast, easy to use setup and upon reflection I have made several of my longest killing shots with the old Swede.
The 270 is certainly a fine caliber. In the past couple years I've notice that most 270 rifles have been selling for lower prices than other calibers. Brass and bullets have been readily available at the shows, and at good prices. Maybe it's just in my area. But I have seriously thought of getting a nice, older 721 Remington or something similar just because of the prices. There's been a nice 721 in 270 win showing up at the local gun shows priced well below $400. There's been others too, Savage 110s, post 64 model 70 Winchester, Ruger 77s. They are all good rifles and it's an excellent cartridge. I don't understand the apathy towards it.

John
 
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Fishinfool - Thank you for the Bergara Catalog. I put it on my
Desktop to study their Rifles.

Bought Primer the other day, $32.
 

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