I picked up a Win 94 16" AE. I want to have the lever converted to a 3/4 loop. There was or is a company that would convert your lever if you sent it to them. Anyone remember a company like that?

What is a 3/4 loop?

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3/4 of a large loop

Wild West in Alaska does lever loop modification. They mostly work on Marlins but they can handle your Winchester as well. I love my trapper 44mag.and am always looking for one in 30-30.

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this is a 30-30. I have a .44m trapper as well. thanks for info.

I've always wondered about the idea of the larger loop. What is the benefit? Other than maybe easier operation in mittens...

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It's an "upgrade"

OK, let me rephrase.
I knew about Mr Connors and how he used the big loop.
So what is the PRACTICAL benefit - if there is one.
Or is it just a "cool kids" thing?

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"Practical"? Oh, that changes everything...

That never gets old. Never. Loved it when I was a kid. Love it now at age 65.

You talkin' tuh meeeee?"

There is no benefit to a large loop. All it does is slow down the time to cycle the action and potentially cause you to hurt your fingers/ knuckles if cycling the action quickly. I own and shoot lever actions from .22 rim fire all the way up to .50 Alaskan. If you like the way they look go for it, but they serve no practical purpose.

The only practical purpose a large lever loop ever served is it enabled Rooster Cogburn aka John Wayne/The Duke to flip his rifle over to jack the lever in the final gunfight against the bad guys in "True Grit". Without a large lever loop his hand would have gotten stuck.

Large lever loops look cool, mostly because from the movie "Stagecoach" onward John Wayne always used one.

But the lever is supposed to fit well around the shooter's hand such that a downward motion immediately drops the lever and ejects a spent case and the following upward motion reloads the rifle, sets the hammer, ready for the next shot. If you use a large lever the first downward movement of the shooter's hand is through the air towards the bottom of the loop and then the lever drops, etc. Coming up - same thing - wasted motion through the air.

So, IF the rifle is used solely for fun plinking this is not such a bad thing. But if the rifle is a hunting rifle, never mind a cowboy action shooting competition gun, you want the follow up shots to be fast and you lose a lot of time using a large loop.

Also, I imagine your hand could come out. I guess.............

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Thanks for responses. I want a larger 3/4 loop, not the large loop. I already have a few of those. On this particular rifle I want a larger than standard lever.

In the early 90s I bought a used Model 94 Trapper in .45 Colt that came with the large loop. Fun at first spinning the rifle, but I soon came to hate it. For normal use it sucked. Made cycling the action slow and awkward. I swapped it out for a standard lever and never regretted it.

That’s not how you shoot deer?

And of course you can combine one cool-looking dumb idea with yet another cool-looking dumb idea, and come up with Woody Strode’s gun in “Once upon a Time in the West”. Didn’t do him any good in the movie, but these are out there as replicas

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Gotta love a lever action...wonder what caliber etc chuck Connors used in the rifleman?

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Connors used a Winchester 1892 SRC chambered in .44 WCF (.44-40), but I’ll bet dollars to doughnuts he was shooting these!

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Remember the giant loop on the Mattel levers?

LOL, I just realized I do have a lever... my Red Ryder!

IIRC the Mattels came with a little dingus inside the trigger guard that you could flip out, and it would trip the trigger as you closed the lever. Quick way to burn up a roll of caps.

Does anybody still make capgun ammo?

Thanks for the informative responses. Other than the company in Alaska. I remember a company that would shape your lever to fit your needs or wants. I cant remember the name though. This is basically what I'm looking for. I might have to go with this one. Get winchester 94 large loop lever for sale | Post '''64 rifles

A leather lever wrap on a standard sized lever is always good except if the gun is to be carried in cold weather and gloves are to be worn. Then the a 3/4 loop might be useful.

That toy cap rifle was one of the coolest cap guns I had! The best was the cork-shooter. You run out of, or lose, all your corks the first week, then you shove the end into the mud and shoot that!
I'm kinda looking for a leather sleeve kinda thing for my .30-30's lever and/or my .22 Marlin's, sort of a cool-lookin' thing to throw on my rifles.That Marlin black rifle uses paracord around the lever, but I'm not into that. I like leather.

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A gunsmith that does metal work & welding can alter an existing lever/loop to most any style you want. Cut and splice in another piece, then weld.
Lots of filing and/or grinding and polishing to finish it up. Then bluing to complete the job.

Buying ready made is the cheapest route no doubt, but fabricating one is not a difficult job if thats the only option.
Labor is expensive though.

I find I shoot a lever better with the bottom of the loop in my grasp rather than my hand in between. Glad you know what you want.

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I modified all my lever guns years ago. ALL have enlarged levers, because I live in the north where it's not possible to hunt with bare hands. Many times I wear a shooting mitten {one finger and made of deer hide}with a hand knitted wool liner. {Modified levers have always been called Mitten Rings, here in the north}

[QUOTE=Murdock;141034330]IIRC the Mattels came with a little dingus inside the trigger guard that you could flip out, and it would trip the trigger as you closed the lever. Quick way to burn up a roll of caps

Chuck Connors 92 ran the same way. He wasn't pulling the trigger. He just flipped the little dingus on the lever and ran it it like a machine gun.

re Mattel: Thanks for the memory.

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Same here, still watch re-runs of it. I just choose to overlook the fact that Lucas is using a rifle that didn't exist at the time.

Sgt911, it finally hit me today. The company is Brockman rifle company. It’s their New England glove lever.

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I loved that show as a kid and thought that 92 was way cool. But I watch now and notice how, during the rapid fire, lever shooting, the muzzle is up, down and all around---but a horse or person on the street never got hit!
Still very cool.