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I just picked up this baby yesterday. Can't wait to shoot it. Its like nothing I ever owned before.

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She's pretty, but can she shoot?
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Never heard of it.
Looks expensive.
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Never heard of one but I like it.
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Never heard of it.
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It is. $5K. And no, I don't own one.
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With a bore axis that low you must feel the recoil in your knees.
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What planet does Laugo Arms inhabit? I see the gun is the alien model. So is it for shooting aliens...do we qualify?
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Mine arrived and it does shoot great. That low bore axis about which they brag does make a difference, certainly for fast second shots. It's a double-tapping special.

This initial run of five hundred includes two top rails, one with adjustable open sights and one with a red dot. It shipped with 3 magazines and they "permitted" buyers to add two more. The case is very nice and it also has a very sturdy competition style holster.

Worth the money? That question is so subjective as to be unanswerable, but if one can, and wants, to allocate gun buying funds into one pile rather than across several guns, then it is up to them. I did notice that somebody is flipping one on GB already and it has bid up over $7800 at last check.

Mine is no longer unfired and it isn't going anywhere except to my heirs. The OP photos are so much better than any I could do and mine differs only in the number engraved representing its place in the initial importation run of 500.

They are made in the Czech Republic and one can easily see its CZ heritage as the designer was also responsible for the CZ Scorpion.
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It is. $5K. And no, I don't own one.
$5000 is a deal. Check out what they’re bringing on Gunbroker...

One brought $11,000 last week.

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Congratulations. A real Alien Laugo Arms Alien Pistol... indeed.

Lots of info on their website

Alien pistol - Laugo Arms Czechoslovakia
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I have one on order and they keep saying they will contact us but so far, nothing. They do not answer the phone and I have sent emails.

Anyone know what is taking so long?
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Looks like a very well made pistol and very innovative in it's design. We will need a range report.

Found a bunch of videos of it on Youtube.

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Different..but not $5k worth of cool to me.
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Different..but not $5k worth of cool to me.
$5000 is a bargain for what you get and the market is showing that.

Whether it’s worth it to everyone is a matter of opinion of course, but the value is most definitely there. Guns like this aren’t for everyone and if they were, they would be more available. It’s a low production gun from a boutique manufacturer.
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I have one on order and they keep saying they will contact us but so far, nothing. They do not answer the phone and I have sent emails.

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Lancer is terrible, that’s why.

I have a contact if you want. PM me
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The secret sauce of the pistol is more than the ultra-low bore access.

The barrel is fixed which should help accuracy potential.

The surface the RDS is mounted on is also fixed which should improve RDS reliability. As RDS are getting more and more popular, this is no small thing.

I think these early guns are essentially hard built which means expensive and hard to get.

If someone can figure out how to mass produce the design while maintaining good quality, the design has the potential to influence handgun design moving forward.
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The design's main inspiration (if not duplication) is the gas piston system. If you have ever handled a H&K P7 and seen the gas piston under the barrel the Alien's piston will look VERY familiar. The Alien's piston lays on top of the fixed barrel and the relatively small spring is alongside the piston. The P7, of course, has the large recoil spring over the fixed barrel.

I fired about 100 rounds of 115 grain range ammo through mine offhand at 15 yards. This initial trip was more of a function check and opportunity for me to become more familiar with the weapon rather than a "test" of t he gun. My results on a sunny, cool day in central Texas were very encouraging, as the accuracy was immediately apparent. The adjustable-for-windage open sights were dead on with the range ammo, as it was with the red dot after changing the top rail. I have no doubt that a better class shooter than I would have no problem producing impressive groups.

As I mentioned, the mitigation of muzzle rise is the primary benefit of the low bore axis design. It is really true that you can pretty much keep the sight picture between shots with both sighting systems. My 70 year old eyes did a tiny bit better with the Red Dot, but using my shooting glasses with the bi-focal in the top part of the lens gave encouraging results with the open sights.

Cleaning was a breeze once the take down process is learned. As with the P7 the main area needing attention is the gas piston's carbon build-up. The kit included a small bottle of Bore Tech carbon remover which worked great on the crud left by the cheap dirty range ammo I was using. A little time with the solvent and a nylon bristle brush cleaned it right up. The pistol also come with a special flat L-shaped cleaning tool that doubles as a carbon scraper for the inside of the piston pocket that also allows use of cleaning patches up into that small hole. Me telling it was more complicated than doing it.

We are having a rainy spell now in north central Texas so it will be probably next week before I can shoot again. The issue of "value" is subjective, and I am the polar opposite of a high speed, low drag operator. But the quality, ingenious design, and accuracy of this pistol rivals some of the finest pistols I have had the privilege to shoot. I own Sig P210's, H&K P7's, among others and the Alien, despite its rather lame name is a solid contender for quality and inherent accuracy.
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Thanks for the good review. I am still waiting to get mine.

How is the trigger on it? With the hammer hinging down from above and the sear being released by a "push rod", I was a little concerned.

Also the trigger is only adjustable with a factory spring change, at least for now.
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Handsome pistol. What caliber?
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The trigger is actually very nice, with virtually no take up and a crisp, light break. I don't have a trigger pull gauge, but my old finger would put it really close to "1911" territory. There doesn't seem to be any over travel and the reset very quick. I'm not sure how to describe it, but it is as nice as my Sig P210's, which have been my yardstick for awesome triggers for a long time.

I predict you will be delighted with the trigger. With the extra moving parts I also was concerned, but it is not evident to the trigger finger.
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It is in 9mm
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The trigger is actually very nice, with virtually no take up and a crisp, light break. I don't have a trigger pull gauge, but my old finger would put it really close to "1911" territory. There doesn't seem to be any over travel and the reset very quick. I'm not sure how to describe it, but it is as nice as my Sig P210's, which have been my yardstick for awesome triggers for a long time.

I predict you will be delighted with the trigger. With the extra moving parts I also was concerned, but it is not evident to the trigger finger.
Thanks again for the quick reply!

Here is a video a friend from Belgium sent me that really shows how the gun works.


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So, what do magazines go for? $500 each ?
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That is a great take-down picture. The one caveat I would is to tell you to be careful when you pull the spring back (or down) on the rod when disassembling it from the piston. Wear safety glasses and point in a safe direction :-)

The extra magazines were $89 each.
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BEEMER1, I don't remember exactly when I put my order in but my number is 349/500. They claimed to be sending them out in order of purchase. My experience was next day air from UPS. I didn't wait for a call, but went to their website to put in payment and FFL info. Hopefully yours will come soon.
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BEEMER1, I don't remember exactly when I put my order in but my number is 349/500. They claimed to be sending them out in order of purchase. My experience was next day air from UPS. I didn't wait for a call, but went to their website to put in payment and FFL info. Hopefully yours will come soon.
I have put in my payment and FFL info in on January 1st when they sent the address out. I am getting a phone number to try so maybe that will help. It just should not take a month to get the guns out in my opinion. Thanks

It is the best video I have seen showing the inner workings of the gun.

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Wow! A pistol that costs the same as a box of ammo!
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I have put in my payment and FFL info in on January 1st when they sent the address out. I am getting a phone number to try so maybe that will help. It just should not take a month to get the guns out in my opinion. Thanks

It is the best video I have seen showing the inner workings of the gun.
I sent the PM back. Email the sales manager and see what happens.

Mine is #61
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The design's main inspiration (if not duplication) is the gas piston system. If you have ever handled a H&K P7 and seen the gas piston under the barrel the Alien's piston will look VERY familiar. The Alien's piston lays on top of the fixed barrel and the relatively small spring is alongside the piston. The P7, of course, has the large recoil spring over the fixed barrel.

I fired about 100 rounds of 115 grain range ammo through mine offhand at 15 yards. This initial trip was more of a function check and opportunity for me to become more familiar with the weapon rather than a "test" of t he gun. My results on a sunny, cool day in central Texas were very encouraging, as the accuracy was immediately apparent. The adjustable-for-windage open sights were dead on with the range ammo, as it was with the red dot after changing the top rail. I have no doubt that a better class shooter than I would have no problem producing impressive groups.

As I mentioned, the mitigation of muzzle rise is the primary benefit of the low bore axis design. It is really true that you can pretty much keep the sight picture between shots with both sighting systems. My 70 year old eyes did a tiny bit better with the Red Dot, but using my shooting glasses with the bi-focal in the top part of the lens gave encouraging results with the open sights.

Cleaning was a breeze once the take down process is learned. As with the P7 the main area needing attention is the gas piston's carbon build-up. The kit included a small bottle of Bore Tech carbon remover which worked great on the crud left by the cheap dirty range ammo I was using. A little time with the solvent and a nylon bristle brush cleaned it right up. The pistol also come with a special flat L-shaped cleaning tool that doubles as a carbon scraper for the inside of the piston pocket that also allows use of cleaning patches up into that small hole. Me telling it was more complicated than doing it.

We are having a rainy spell now in north central Texas so it will be probably next week before I can shoot again. The issue of "value" is subjective, and I am the polar opposite of a high speed, low drag operator. But the quality, ingenious design, and accuracy of this pistol rivals some of the finest pistols I have had the privilege to shoot. I own Sig P210's, H&K P7's, among others and the Alien, despite its rather lame name is a solid contender for quality and inherent accuracy.
Very cool

I look forward to comparing the Alien to others in my collection. I'm fortunate enough to own examples of virtually all the high end pistols from around the world built over the last 50+ years, so it should be interesting.

Since they were built in the same country, I'm most excited about comparing its accuracy to my FK BRNO.




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I sent the PM back. Email the sales manager and see what happens.

Mine is #61
I emailed the Sales Manager just now and I got a return email in 15 minutes saying my pistol will ship tomorrow.

Thanks a lot!
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Very cool

I look forward to comparing the Alien to others in my collection. I'm fortunate enough to own examples of virtually all the high end pistols from around the world built over the last 50+ years, so it should be interesting.

Since they were built in the same country, I'm most excited about comparing its accuracy to my FK BRNO.





I was going to say that at this price point, I would be more excited by the FK due to its proprietary cartridge versus the very common 9 mm of the Laugo Alien, and I remembered you also had one. Waiting for your feedback eagerly.
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I was going to say that at this price point, I would be more excited by the FK due to its proprietary cartridge versus the very common 9 mm of the Laugo Alien, and I remembered you also had one. Waiting for your feedback eagerly.
Yeah, the FK has a cool round and the gun is incredibly high quality. However, its design is basically that of an upscaled CZ 75 with some tweaks. Whereas the Alien is a completely new design.

They are both unique in different ways. Overall though, I'm very impressed with what the Czechs can build these days. Both pistols are top notch and can hold their own against anything I own coming out of Switzerland or Germany.
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We had a blizzard here so shipping ended up taking more time than it should but I picked up mine yesterday, #230.

It is a very impressive firearm to say the least.

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I'd love to hear your shooting impressions (if you plan to shoot it) as soon as the blizzard permits. Some are already flipping them for some scary prices, but I don't regret shooting mine already.
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To an old 1911 toter like me that looks just a little bit alien.
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I plan on shooting mine as well. I’m not flipping it.
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I plan on shooting mine also but there is another storm moving in tonight. Hopefully next week I can get out.
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