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Mauser Carbine I think South American M93/95??

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Rifle has a Ax and Sword crest on the top of the receiver. Turned down bolt handle (bolt is nickle plated.)

Weirdly it is stamped 7.52 (which I know there is no round of that designation.)

Has a tangent rear sight and protected front sight.

Also has import marks under barrel.

Any ideas what this is? I am sure it's a 93 or 95 action...
 

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tnd,

If I didn't have to answer my phone I would have beat ya to it... :D

Not too many people know about those.
 
tndrfttom said:
I believe it is a Spanish M1916. The crest is for the "Civil Guard". Many were converted from 7mm to 7.62 NATO caliber (often badly stamped).
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That explains the 7.52 stamp! Yes badly stamped. But being a 93 I sure would not use regular .308 ammo!!!

Thanks!
 
Beware of firing those Spanish made 93s and 95s with .308 ammo. Some of those rifles have receivers that are so soft that locking lug setback can occur with only one shot, increasing headspace so much that they are unsafe to fire. Do some research.
 
alwslate said:
Beware of firing those Spanish made 93s and 95s with .308 ammo. Some of those rifles have receivers that are so soft that locking lug setback can occur with only one shot, increasing headspace so much that they are unsafe to fire. Do some research.
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After WWII the CEMTE semi auto rifle was developed in Spain by German engineers. The CEMTE cartridge used a NATO Style case (7.62x51) but a different bullet and loading. No one has ever figured if the 1916 conversions are for 7.62x51 NATO or 7.62x51 CEMTE.

I avoid anything CEMTE, but love the CEMTE's offspring, the HK 91 (G3) and the 92 & 93. They were designed to use NATO ammo and full power 7.62x39 ammo.

Ivan
 
Some of the Spanish made 93s and 95s were turned out quickly and put into service without even heat treating the receivers. Military 7x57 ammo was loaded to relatively low pressure levels. The .308 develops about 62,000 psi. Do you really want this kind of pressure right in your face in a 100 yr old receiver that may not have even been heat treated and has poor gas handling features? Mike V managed to blow up a better version of the pre 98, the Swede 96. Saw the article several years ago in one of the magazines. Pics showed that the receiver was completely destroyed. A case head failure might be a minor event in a 98 action but completely destroy a 93 or 95 action because of poor gas handling. Read about the Spanish made 93s and 95s in the Khunhausen manual on Mausers.
 
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Looks like a late production or post SCW rebuild looking at the rear sight. The original M1916 had a Lange Vizier rear sight that looks like a roller coaster.

As for 7.62 NATO vs .308 in these guns, don't get caught out by the urban legend that .308 is way more powerful than 7.62 NATO. I've written about this at some length before.

Rant: Another gun rag gets .308 vs 7.62 NATO wrong

All updated M1916 and Model 1893 rifle had a gas escape hole added. However, due to the Mauser 93 bolt design, NEVER shoot them without eye protection, in ANY caliber. Safety first.
 
Before you fire a single round through your .308 pre 98 Mauser check the locking lug recesses in the receiver. If they have indentations from the bolt locking lugs hammering them don’t fire the rifle.
 
LVSteve said:
Looks like a late production or post SCW rebuild looking at the rear sight. The original M1916 had a Lange Vizier rear sight that looks like a roller coaster.
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Here is a carbine with the lange visier-style rear sight made in 1921 at the Spanish Arsenal at Oviedo. This one is still in its original 7mm Mauser caliber. (Sorry about the quality of the photos).
 

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